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Is there a right way to win?

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posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 13 seconds ago
I have never liked Broad with his Duran Duran headband and supposed rapport with the crowd. I'll enjoy watching England alot more when he's retired.

The worst sportsmanship in the history of the ashes was when he refused to walk after nicking one to Clarke at first slip in 2013.

Hypocritical t0sser.
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Yep, that was actual cheating unlike what Carey did. But hey, ‘it’s just not cricket’ is how the English like to judge people apparently 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Yes, and it was judged unsporting in England. Though not as unsporting as sandpapering a ball.
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Not walking is not cheating. You have to be given out and most batsmen don't walk.


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It was definitely cheating. The most obvious catch ever and he knew what he was doing. In his own words…

"I was thinking, 'we need more runs here, we're 230 ahead,'" Broad recalled on the eve of the 2023 campaign. "If I get out, we lose the game. So I'm never just going to walk off and accept a loss. I looked up at Aleem and he said not out."
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… and pretty much every single player in the modern game would have done the same, waiting to be given out. So again, what’s your point?
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That when we talk about ‘Spirit of the game’, England are just as bad as Australia or anyone else. They just happened to be on the receiving end of it this time round and act like Cummins should have done the right thing when they themselves would likely not have.
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I don’t recall ever seeing a keeper do what Carey did in almost 50 years of watching Test cricket, in the way it happened yesterday … where a batsmen clearly hasn’t tried to sneak a single, or overbalanced out of his ground while attempting a shot. Yet you keep trying to equate it to not walking when you know you’re out, which is pretty standard practice these days. It really isn’t the same.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 13 seconds ago
I have never liked Broad with his Duran Duran headband and supposed rapport with the crowd. I'll enjoy watching England alot more when he's retired.

The worst sportsmanship in the history of the ashes was when he refused to walk after nicking one to Clarke at first slip in 2013.

Hypocritical t0sser.
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Yep, that was actual cheating unlike what Carey did. But hey, ‘it’s just not cricket’ is how the English like to judge people apparently 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Yes, and it was judged unsporting in England. Though not as unsporting as sandpapering a ball.
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Not walking is not cheating. You have to be given out and most batsmen don't walk.


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It was definitely cheating. The most obvious catch ever and he knew what he was doing. In his own words…

"I was thinking, 'we need more runs here, we're 230 ahead,'" Broad recalled on the eve of the 2023 campaign. "If I get out, we lose the game. So I'm never just going to walk off and accept a loss. I looked up at Aleem and he said not out."
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… and pretty much every single player in the modern game would have done the same, waiting to be given out. So again, what’s your point?
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That when we talk about ‘Spirit of the game’, England are just as bad as Australia or anyone else. They just happened to be on the receiving end of it this time round and act like Cummins should have done the right thing when they themselves would likely not have.
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I don’t recall ever seeing a keeper do what Carey did in almost 50 years of watching Test cricket, in the way it happened yesterday … where a batsmen clearly hasn’t tried to sneak a single, or overbalanced out of his ground while attempting a shot. Yet you keep trying to equate it to not walking when you know you’re out, which is pretty standard practice these days. It really isn’t the same.
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It’s not the same. The Broad one is worse as many people on here have said. Maybe watch the Broad incident again where it wasn’t just the tiniest of nicks. It was a blatant out and while he doesn’t have to walk, in the ‘spirit of the game’ ©️ he’s set the tone for the ashes and allows things like last night to happen.

posted on 3/7/23

Not really sure what Broad has to do with the OP tbh.

Most kids are taught 'Two wrongs don't make a right' when they're abput three tears old. Well, they do in England anyway.

posted on 3/7/23

Is Robb still clutching at straws here?

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not really sure what Broad has to do with the OP tbh.

Most kids are taught 'Two wrongs don't make a right' when they're abput three tears old. Well, they do in England anyway.
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He needs it to stick with delusion that everyone is as bad as the Australians.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 13 seconds ago
I have never liked Broad with his Duran Duran headband and supposed rapport with the crowd. I'll enjoy watching England alot more when he's retired.

The worst sportsmanship in the history of the ashes was when he refused to walk after nicking one to Clarke at first slip in 2013.

Hypocritical t0sser.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yep, that was actual cheating unlike what Carey did. But hey, ‘it’s just not cricket’ is how the English like to judge people apparently 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Yes, and it was judged unsporting in England. Though not as unsporting as sandpapering a ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not walking is not cheating. You have to be given out and most batsmen don't walk.


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It was definitely cheating. The most obvious catch ever and he knew what he was doing. In his own words…

"I was thinking, 'we need more runs here, we're 230 ahead,'" Broad recalled on the eve of the 2023 campaign. "If I get out, we lose the game. So I'm never just going to walk off and accept a loss. I looked up at Aleem and he said not out."
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… and pretty much every single player in the modern game would have done the same, waiting to be given out. So again, what’s your point?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That when we talk about ‘Spirit of the game’, England are just as bad as Australia or anyone else. They just happened to be on the receiving end of it this time round and act like Cummins should have done the right thing when they themselves would likely not have.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don’t recall ever seeing a keeper do what Carey did in almost 50 years of watching Test cricket, in the way it happened yesterday … where a batsmen clearly hasn’t tried to sneak a single, or overbalanced out of his ground while attempting a shot. Yet you keep trying to equate it to not walking when you know you’re out, which is pretty standard practice these days. It really isn’t the same.
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It’s not the same. The Broad one is worse as many people on here have said. Maybe watch the Broad incident again where it wasn’t just the tiniest of nicks. It was a blatant out and while he doesn’t have to walk, in the ‘spirit of the game’ ©️ he’s set the tone for the ashes and allows things like last night to happen.
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Didn't Justin Langer do it before Broad when Australia were playing Pakistan? Off the face of his bat to first slip. So the Aussies have been doing it long before that incident.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not really sure what Broad has to do with the OP tbh.

Most kids are taught 'Two wrongs don't make a right' when they're abput three tears old. Well, they do in England anyway.
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What an odd thing to say. By that logic no other examples of anything should ever be used to support an argument.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not really sure what Broad has to do with the OP tbh.

Most kids are taught 'Two wrongs don't make a right' when they're abput three tears old. Well, they do in England anyway.
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What an odd thing to say. By that logic no other examples of anything should ever be used to support an argument.
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What?

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not really sure what Broad has to do with the OP tbh.

Most kids are taught 'Two wrongs don't make a right' when they're abput three tears old. Well, they do in England anyway.
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What an odd thing to say. By that logic no other examples of anything should ever be used to support an argument.
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What?
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My argument is that what Carey did was ruthless but England do it too. Is that not a fair supposition?

posted on 3/7/23

Broad isn't an example of what happened, in anyway, shape or form.

Is there a right way to win?

Those with integrity "Yes"

Tories and Aussies "No"

posted on 3/7/23

Robb is right. If you are going to determine what the spirit of the game is, you need to look at behaviours that are considered within the spirit of the game and then judge the incident in question against those.

Outnumbering Robb isn't going to make you more right. You are putting forward a flawed argument.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Pierre Reedy (U1734)
posted 2 hours, 39 minutes ago

The wife is Robb in a wig.
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That's my afternoon chug sorted

posted on 3/7/23

Broad isn't an example of what happened, in anyway, shape or form.

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Okay, whatever you say 🙄

posted on 3/7/23

The only comparable sporting incident that I can remember in recent times is when Aussie 10 Foley was trying to run the clock down against New Zealand, and ignored Raynal's repeated instructions to play on.

There is a bit of a theme here isn't there?

posted on 3/7/23

Tories and Aussies "No"
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posted on 3/7/23

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 1 minute ago
The only comparable sporting incident that I can remember in recent times is when Aussie 10 Foley was trying to run the clock down against New Zealand, and ignored Raynal's repeated instructions to play on.

There is a bit of a theme here isn't there?
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Foakes stumping Balbirnie was worse. If we’re talking about themes..

posted on 3/7/23

Colin De Grandhomme too.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 3/7/23

comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
My only addition to this conversation is I went to school with Bairstow, he was the year above me and he was one of the most arrogant people I've ever met once he turned pro. Always hearing bad stories about him from friends, so for me, he probably deserved a humbling.

His sister was also my first kiss to haha
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Were you after her ginger ɱinge?

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 38 minutes ago

That when we talk about ‘Spirit of the game’, England are just as bad as Australia or anyone else. They just happened to be on the receiving end of it this time round and act like Cummins should have done the right thing when they themselves would likely not have.
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You're speculating on what Stokes may or may not have done in order to back your point up.

We don't know what Stokes would have done, irrespective of what he said after the match - that wasn't the heat of battle.

All we know is that MS Doni was happy to withdraw a run out claim when batters believed the ball to be dead, Cummins wasn't.

posted on 3/7/23

You see, England might think they corner the market on fairness and ‘it’s just not cricket’ but the rest of the world sees them as hypocrites who have their own rap sheet of crimes against the spirit of the game.

And as per the OP, I personally don’t think there’s anything wrong with gaming the system. I’m not at all excusing what Carey did from a fair play perspective. It was cynical. But England do it themselves far more than some on here are willing to admit.

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 3/7/23

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 5 minutes ago
The only comparable sporting incident that I can remember in recent times is when Aussie 10 Foley was trying to run the clock down against New Zealand, and ignored Raynal's repeated instructions to play on.

There is a bit of a theme here isn't there?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpSoRlpyMo

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 17 minutes ago
Colin De Grandhomme too.

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De Grandhomme's run out is in no way comparable. It hit his pad, he set off taking a few paces down the wicket as if to run, got sent back by the non-striker and was ran out by a fielder. At no point was he under the impression it was a dead ball, it never went to the keeper, he never went back to his crease etc.

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - At the end of a storm (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not really sure what Broad has to do with the OP tbh.

Most kids are taught 'Two wrongs don't make a right' when they're abput three tears old. Well, they do in England anyway.
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What an odd thing to say. By that logic no other examples of anything should ever be used to support an argument.
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What?
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My argument is that what Carey did was ruthless but England do it too. Is that not a fair supposition?
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How have England been "ruthless" in going against the spirit of the game ?

posted on 3/7/23

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb (Steve) Smith (U22716)
posted 17 minutes ago
Colin De Grandhomme too.

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De Grandhomme's run out is in no way comparable. It hit his pad, he set off taking a few paces down the wicket as if to run, got sent back by the non-striker and was ran out by a fielder. At no point was he under the impression it was a dead ball, it never went to the keeper, he never went back to his crease etc.
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This. Honestly, some of the "examples" being dredged up to somehow justify/equate to yesterday are beyond laughable.

posted on 3/7/23

This. Honestly, some of the "examples" being dredged up to somehow justify/equate to yesterday are beyond laughable.

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Have you guys never come across Robb before. He is without doubt a world champion at whataboutery.

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