Unbelievable
One of the worst child killers in recent times in the UK, and also attacking the most vulnerable in society
She’s lucky there’s no death penalty as it would be a certainty
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 minutes ago
Unbelievable
One of the worst child killers in recent times in the UK, and also attacking the most vulnerable in society
She’s lucky there’s no death penalty as it would be a certainty
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It's as depraved as it gets. This is one thing that actually makes me angry and im pretty thick skinned.
Anything that involves abusing or torturing or murdering someone that is not capable of understanding what is going on, but can still feel the full pain of it all is as depraved as it gets. The torture of animals i feel a similar way about
It does hit home when you've had a child in one of these wards. My 19 month old spent two weeks in one of these intensive care ward and you are always observing the nurses and how they care for other babies there, hoping that the care they give your baby is the same when you're not there. We found some, naturally, treated as just a job and others were really invested in the babies there and getting them back to health. However we weren't prepared to leave it to chance and therefore spent morning to night there every day.
To think that a nurse could take it upon herself in your absence to harm your baby is an extremely scary thought and the likes of this woman are why we have those thoughts when it shouldn't even enter our minds.
I don't think she'll last long in prison but I say good riddance.
She’ll get a whole life order but agree with TOOR can’t see her lasting long in prison
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 17 minutes ago
Unbelievable
One of the worst child killers in recent times in the UK, and also attacking the most vulnerable in society
She’s lucky there’s no death penalty as it would be a certainty
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Death penalty is no punishment. Glad to see her rot in prison. Probably won't survive.
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does hit home when you've had a child in one of these wards. My 19 month old spent two weeks in one of these intensive care ward and you are always observing the nurses and how they care for other babies there, hoping that the care they give your baby is the same when you're not there. We found some, naturally, treated as just a job and others were really invested in the babies there and getting them back to health. However we weren't prepared to leave it to chance and therefore spent morning to night there every day.
To think that a nurse could take it upon herself in your absence to harm your baby is an extremely scary thought and the likes of this woman are why we have those thoughts when it shouldn't even enter our minds.
I don't think she'll last long in prison but I say good riddance.
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Yeah i was exactly the same, watching intently how the nurses were handling my child and caring for them, asking them lots of questions about what my baby is like, because at this point while theyre in neonatal, the nurses know more about your baby than you the parent does. My son was born June 2021 and there was still some covid restrictions in place like limiting the amount of time you could be there etc.
But yeah it hits home when you think about the time your baby was in hospital for however many days after birth and in the care of nurses, it doesn't even cross your mind that one of these nurses could be a monster like this
chop her arms and legs off, throw her in a cell and force feed her for the next 60 years
Well they didn't know more about our baby as we spent more time with ours than any of the nurses. I also studied all the charts and notes upon arrival and questioned anything I didn't understand. I stayed there when groups of doctors came and discussed my daughter and again questioned them when I didn't understand a medical term.
Our daughter was famous as she had some kind of rare bacteria they had never seen before and extremely high levels which usually turn into meningitis. Luckily by around day 5 the levels were done to normal but because she had a drip in her head where they had to shave her hair off on one side, due to not being able to insert in the hand, she had to stay to complete the course of antibiotics. All this was preventable as they are supposed to take the mother in early and apply antibiotics before the birth, if sepsis was an issue during a previous birth. We tried to explain this to them but they aren't very good listeners. So yeah both times both child and mother were close to death. Never again.
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 7 minutes ago
chop her arms and legs off, throw her in a cell and force feed her for the next 60 years
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I watched the film Tusk for the first time the other night, I feel like what happens to the victim is appropriate for her
Couldn't even bring myself to read beyond the headlines of that story.
Sickening
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
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I will say I didn't demand I be there but what happened to your child sounds more serious than mine, mine had muconium in his lungs so had difficulty breathing for the first few hours of his life but that cleared quickly but he also developed a small infection passed on by mum so they kept him in as a precaution but he was absolutely fine after a few days. I tried to stick to the covid rules at the time but mum was present all the time. And yeah I definitely agree with you that some nurses treat the role as a profession and one or two other nurses are far more engaged with your child and know a bit more about them, one nurse I think her name was Jo was brilliant in telling us all about him and what next steps are etc
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
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I will say I didn't demand I be there but what happened to your child sounds more serious than mine, mine had muconium in his lungs so had difficulty breathing for the first few hours of his life but that cleared quickly but he also developed a small infection passed on by mum so they kept him in as a precaution but he was absolutely fine after a few days. I tried to stick to the covid rules at the time but mum was present all the time. And yeah I definitely agree with you that some nurses treat the role as a profession and one or two other nurses are far more engaged with your child and know a bit more about them, one nurse I think her name was Jo was brilliant in telling us all about him and what next steps are etc
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Yeah both of mine also had meconium. First had to stay in a couple of days as despite sepsis during birth, bacteria levels were low. Second was two weeks as levels were through the roof.
I've been following this trial throughout via a podcast (The Trial Of Lucy Letby). I constantly kept swaying back and forth between whether I thought she was guilty or not. A lot of the evidence was circumstantial at best - I'm not sure how they managed to prove her guilt beyond all reasonable doubt?
I spent the whole trial wanting her to be innocent, because it's near impossible to comprehend someone could be that evil
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
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I will say I didn't demand I be there but what happened to your child sounds more serious than mine, mine had muconium in his lungs so had difficulty breathing for the first few hours of his life but that cleared quickly but he also developed a small infection passed on by mum so they kept him in as a precaution but he was absolutely fine after a few days. I tried to stick to the covid rules at the time but mum was present all the time. And yeah I definitely agree with you that some nurses treat the role as a profession and one or two other nurses are far more engaged with your child and know a bit more about them, one nurse I think her name was Jo was brilliant in telling us all about him and what next steps are etc
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Yeah both of mine also had meconium. First had to stay in a couple of days as despite sepsis during birth, bacteria levels were low. Second was two weeks as levels were through the roof.
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Well I hope both are healthy and well! Childbirth is definitely the most memorable times of a parents life
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
Stressful, scary, daunting, but amazing and wonderful
She'll never enjoy another day of freedom in her life.
It's just so difficult to get your head round someone doing that to even one baby, never mind several.
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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Exactly. The only thing they should be targeted on is recovery rate.
The NHS isn't overfunded. The pharmaceutical industry and other NHS suppliers should be nationalised in order to stop the massive profiteering which happens literally at the cost of lives.
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posted 0 seconds ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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Exactly. The only thing they should be targeted on is recovery rate.
The NHS isn't overfunded. The pharmaceutical industry and other NHS suppliers should be nationalised in order to stop the massive profiteering which happens literally at the cost of lives.
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*underfunded
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Exactly the same as our HSE
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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In theory, and it would be great if that was the full story. In practice, many are utterly clueless, mainly interested in maintaining the status quo, sweeping problems under the carpet for the next clown to deal with once they’ve moved sideways or upwards (nobody in management ever gets sacked for being useless). Not saying overall levels of cash isn’t an issue, but the sheer wastage of cash is a far bigger one. The combination of industrial scale incompetence and a toxic bullying culture is breathtaking.
comment by Anfield RAP (U22951)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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Exactly. The only thing they should be targeted on is recovery rate.
The NHS isn't overfunded. The pharmaceutical industry and other NHS suppliers should be nationalised in order to stop the massive profiteering which happens literally at the cost of lives.
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Not to distract from the fact that this cow killed babies.
Any Trust or hospital, any business, could be victim to a rogue employee but sometimes I think that the higher-ups in these organisations think about reputational damage rather than acting in accordance with basic safeguarding.
I haven't followed this thing blow by blow because it is so upsetting, maybe someone more clued up could say if this was, cover-up maybe too strong, but at least a failure to act for fear of repercussions.
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Lucy Letby - as evil as Shipman
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posted on 18/8/23
Unbelievable
One of the worst child killers in recent times in the UK, and also attacking the most vulnerable in society
She’s lucky there’s no death penalty as it would be a certainty
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 minutes ago
Unbelievable
One of the worst child killers in recent times in the UK, and also attacking the most vulnerable in society
She’s lucky there’s no death penalty as it would be a certainty
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It's as depraved as it gets. This is one thing that actually makes me angry and im pretty thick skinned.
Anything that involves abusing or torturing or murdering someone that is not capable of understanding what is going on, but can still feel the full pain of it all is as depraved as it gets. The torture of animals i feel a similar way about
posted on 18/8/23
It does hit home when you've had a child in one of these wards. My 19 month old spent two weeks in one of these intensive care ward and you are always observing the nurses and how they care for other babies there, hoping that the care they give your baby is the same when you're not there. We found some, naturally, treated as just a job and others were really invested in the babies there and getting them back to health. However we weren't prepared to leave it to chance and therefore spent morning to night there every day.
To think that a nurse could take it upon herself in your absence to harm your baby is an extremely scary thought and the likes of this woman are why we have those thoughts when it shouldn't even enter our minds.
I don't think she'll last long in prison but I say good riddance.
posted on 18/8/23
She’ll get a whole life order but agree with TOOR can’t see her lasting long in prison
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 17 minutes ago
Unbelievable
One of the worst child killers in recent times in the UK, and also attacking the most vulnerable in society
She’s lucky there’s no death penalty as it would be a certainty
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Death penalty is no punishment. Glad to see her rot in prison. Probably won't survive.
posted on 18/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 minutes ago
It does hit home when you've had a child in one of these wards. My 19 month old spent two weeks in one of these intensive care ward and you are always observing the nurses and how they care for other babies there, hoping that the care they give your baby is the same when you're not there. We found some, naturally, treated as just a job and others were really invested in the babies there and getting them back to health. However we weren't prepared to leave it to chance and therefore spent morning to night there every day.
To think that a nurse could take it upon herself in your absence to harm your baby is an extremely scary thought and the likes of this woman are why we have those thoughts when it shouldn't even enter our minds.
I don't think she'll last long in prison but I say good riddance.
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Yeah i was exactly the same, watching intently how the nurses were handling my child and caring for them, asking them lots of questions about what my baby is like, because at this point while theyre in neonatal, the nurses know more about your baby than you the parent does. My son was born June 2021 and there was still some covid restrictions in place like limiting the amount of time you could be there etc.
But yeah it hits home when you think about the time your baby was in hospital for however many days after birth and in the care of nurses, it doesn't even cross your mind that one of these nurses could be a monster like this
posted on 18/8/23
chop her arms and legs off, throw her in a cell and force feed her for the next 60 years
posted on 18/8/23
Well they didn't know more about our baby as we spent more time with ours than any of the nurses. I also studied all the charts and notes upon arrival and questioned anything I didn't understand. I stayed there when groups of doctors came and discussed my daughter and again questioned them when I didn't understand a medical term.
Our daughter was famous as she had some kind of rare bacteria they had never seen before and extremely high levels which usually turn into meningitis. Luckily by around day 5 the levels were done to normal but because she had a drip in her head where they had to shave her hair off on one side, due to not being able to insert in the hand, she had to stay to complete the course of antibiotics. All this was preventable as they are supposed to take the mother in early and apply antibiotics before the birth, if sepsis was an issue during a previous birth. We tried to explain this to them but they aren't very good listeners. So yeah both times both child and mother were close to death. Never again.
posted on 18/8/23
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 7 minutes ago
chop her arms and legs off, throw her in a cell and force feed her for the next 60 years
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I watched the film Tusk for the first time the other night, I feel like what happens to the victim is appropriate for her
posted on 18/8/23
Couldn't even bring myself to read beyond the headlines of that story.
Sickening
posted on 18/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
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I will say I didn't demand I be there but what happened to your child sounds more serious than mine, mine had muconium in his lungs so had difficulty breathing for the first few hours of his life but that cleared quickly but he also developed a small infection passed on by mum so they kept him in as a precaution but he was absolutely fine after a few days. I tried to stick to the covid rules at the time but mum was present all the time. And yeah I definitely agree with you that some nurses treat the role as a profession and one or two other nurses are far more engaged with your child and know a bit more about them, one nurse I think her name was Jo was brilliant in telling us all about him and what next steps are etc
posted on 18/8/23
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
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I will say I didn't demand I be there but what happened to your child sounds more serious than mine, mine had muconium in his lungs so had difficulty breathing for the first few hours of his life but that cleared quickly but he also developed a small infection passed on by mum so they kept him in as a precaution but he was absolutely fine after a few days. I tried to stick to the covid rules at the time but mum was present all the time. And yeah I definitely agree with you that some nurses treat the role as a profession and one or two other nurses are far more engaged with your child and know a bit more about them, one nurse I think her name was Jo was brilliant in telling us all about him and what next steps are etc
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Yeah both of mine also had meconium. First had to stay in a couple of days as despite sepsis during birth, bacteria levels were low. Second was two weeks as levels were through the roof.
posted on 18/8/23
I've been following this trial throughout via a podcast (The Trial Of Lucy Letby). I constantly kept swaying back and forth between whether I thought she was guilty or not. A lot of the evidence was circumstantial at best - I'm not sure how they managed to prove her guilt beyond all reasonable doubt?
I spent the whole trial wanting her to be innocent, because it's near impossible to comprehend someone could be that evil
posted on 18/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Christ We Won (U17162)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 6 minutes ago
Yeah there were covid restrictions for us in November 21. I had to argue with them to allow me in as they had one person visit rules. Luckily they were compassionate enough to understand the circumstances.
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I will say I didn't demand I be there but what happened to your child sounds more serious than mine, mine had muconium in his lungs so had difficulty breathing for the first few hours of his life but that cleared quickly but he also developed a small infection passed on by mum so they kept him in as a precaution but he was absolutely fine after a few days. I tried to stick to the covid rules at the time but mum was present all the time. And yeah I definitely agree with you that some nurses treat the role as a profession and one or two other nurses are far more engaged with your child and know a bit more about them, one nurse I think her name was Jo was brilliant in telling us all about him and what next steps are etc
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Yeah both of mine also had meconium. First had to stay in a couple of days as despite sepsis during birth, bacteria levels were low. Second was two weeks as levels were through the roof.
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Well I hope both are healthy and well! Childbirth is definitely the most memorable times of a parents life
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
posted on 18/8/23
Stressful, scary, daunting, but amazing and wonderful
posted on 18/8/23
She'll never enjoy another day of freedom in her life.
It's just so difficult to get your head round someone doing that to even one baby, never mind several.
posted on 18/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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Exactly. The only thing they should be targeted on is recovery rate.
The NHS isn't overfunded. The pharmaceutical industry and other NHS suppliers should be nationalised in order to stop the massive profiteering which happens literally at the cost of lives.
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Anfield RAP (U22951)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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Exactly. The only thing they should be targeted on is recovery rate.
The NHS isn't overfunded. The pharmaceutical industry and other NHS suppliers should be nationalised in order to stop the massive profiteering which happens literally at the cost of lives.
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*underfunded
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Exactly the same as our HSE
posted on 18/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 41 seconds ago
Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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In theory, and it would be great if that was the full story. In practice, many are utterly clueless, mainly interested in maintaining the status quo, sweeping problems under the carpet for the next clown to deal with once they’ve moved sideways or upwards (nobody in management ever gets sacked for being useless). Not saying overall levels of cash isn’t an issue, but the sheer wastage of cash is a far bigger one. The combination of industrial scale incompetence and a toxic bullying culture is breathtaking.
posted on 18/8/23
comment by Anfield RAP (U22951)
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comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
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comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
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comment by Hector (U3606)
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Just listening to some of the abject failings of the management, ignoring the concerns of paediatricians, forcing them to write an apology after she brought a grievance against them and the Trust head, upon leaving his post, recommended to his successor that the doctors be reported tomthe GMC....beyond believe.
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Shocking, but not at all surprised. That’s what management are like pretty much across the length and breadth of the NHS. Front line staff by and large great, management generally couldn’t run a bath. It’s THE single biggest issue in the NHS, not cash.
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Cash is a large part of it as that's all management think about. Their whole days are spent trying to scrimp and save, do things for less, prioritise etc. Their time should be spent on making improvements, making sure everything runs to maximum efficiency but most of the time they don't have the time for that.
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Exactly. The only thing they should be targeted on is recovery rate.
The NHS isn't overfunded. The pharmaceutical industry and other NHS suppliers should be nationalised in order to stop the massive profiteering which happens literally at the cost of lives.
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Not to distract from the fact that this cow killed babies.
Any Trust or hospital, any business, could be victim to a rogue employee but sometimes I think that the higher-ups in these organisations think about reputational damage rather than acting in accordance with basic safeguarding.
I haven't followed this thing blow by blow because it is so upsetting, maybe someone more clued up could say if this was, cover-up maybe too strong, but at least a failure to act for fear of repercussions.
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