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I have never been a sancjo fan and still have reservations with ETH.
From an objective stance, I don't support the manager doing what he did. It should've been dealt with in-house knowing the player profile
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Doing what he did? He was asked a question and answered it honestly. And all he said was the player hadnt performed in training. Nothing scandalous or uncalled for. If that’s all it took for Sancho, who hasn’t had a single stand out performance in all his time at United, to throw the toys out then it says all we need to know about the player.
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On the flip side using your own argument maybe it is the manager that is making an uproar out of nothing. He called him out and the player made a rebuttal as he felt he trained well.
This is the world we live in now, I don't like it but here we are. Players have access to social media.
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Called him out??? Are you for real?? ‘He didn’t perform in training this week’ that it’s literally all he said. In what world is that ‘calling him out’. Jesus wept the world has gone soft.
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Look at the negativity towards Sancho just from that statement though.
Hundreds of thousands of people abusing you because the manager decided to out him as a poor trainer.
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There's stories from City, Dortmund and England about his training issues. This isn't new.
Why are people so quick to defend somebody who has done the square root of feck all for us?
Nicolas Pepe did better for Arsenal than Sancho has done for us and he's ridiculed by Arsenal fans.
Sancho is a waster. He needs to be binned.
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He has been disappointing, but then not many have performed well post SAF.
Thinking he hasn't performed.well doesn't mean we can't disagree with how the manager has dealt with this matter.
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On pundits, most are ex footballers, so undoubtedly thick as pig shiiit, not sure why so many listen to them so intently.
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Gary and Jamie the exception?
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Not really. Neville is largely a sky mouth piece so should be ignored too.
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They are either too thick or corporate mouth pieces yet people still take note!
Says a lot about the average footy fan!
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My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
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On pundits, most are ex footballers, so undoubtedly thick as pig shiiit, not sure why so many listen to them so intently.
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Gary and Jamie the exception?
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Not really. Neville is largely a sky mouth piece so should be ignored too.
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They are either too thick or corporate mouth pieces yet people still take note!
Says a lot about the average footy fan!
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Says the guy who has just put all pundits in to 2 categories - too thick or mouth pieces.
I think the average footy fan is capable of more than your binary thinking, and also capable of recognising where some pundits will have bias or an agenda, and will reach their own judgement on whether they agree or not with the view being expressed.
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My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
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Brighton have done brilliantly gambling on cheaper players, but the expectations on them are completely different to that of United. Plus, Brighton won't keep getting it right.
Give them our wealth and they will be quoted double the price they currently are.
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comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
On pundits, most are ex footballers, so undoubtedly thick as pig shiiit, not sure why so many listen to them so intently.
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Gary and Jamie the exception?
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Not really. Neville is largely a sky mouth piece so should be ignored too.
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They are either too thick or corporate mouth pieces yet people still take note!
Says a lot about the average footy fan!
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Says the guy who has just put all pundits in to 2 categories - too thick or mouth pieces.
I think the average footy fan is capable of more than your binary thinking, and also capable of recognising where some pundits will have bias or an agenda, and will reach their own judgement on whether they agree or not with the view being expressed.
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You may be in the minority
Owners
Chief exec - Runs the club
Director off football (and his team) - Runs all football operations, including scouting, transfer negotiations contract negotiations and so on.
Manager- coaches the senior quad
This whole club structure is wrong argument is lazy and just wrong.
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
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Brighton have done brilliantly gambling on cheaper players, but the expectations on them are completely different to that of United. Plus, Brighton won't keep getting it right.
Give them our wealth and they will be quoted double the price they currently are.
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City also have the wealth yet seem pick up players, top players, at reasonable rates. They clearly negotiate well but importantly get things done quickly, without fuss.
We pay over the top for average rubbish.
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 29 seconds ago
Owners
Chief exec - Runs the club
Director off football (and his team) - Runs all football operations, including scouting, transfer negotiations contract negotiations and so on.
Manager- coaches the senior quad
This whole club structure is wrong argument is lazy and just wrong.
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That's why we are such a success story, eh?
Nothing a squad hates more than players that don't do it on the pitch or at training yet still get picked ahead of guys that, in their mind, do.
It might actually galvanise spirits rather than have broken them?
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
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Brighton have done brilliantly gambling on cheaper players, but the expectations on them are completely different to that of United. Plus, Brighton won't keep getting it right.
Give them our wealth and they will be quoted double the price they currently are.
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City also have the wealth yet seem pick up players, top players, at reasonable rates. They clearly negotiate well but importantly get things done quickly, without fuss.
We pay over the top for average rubbish.
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Helped massively by the fact they have the world's best coach / manager, and unlimited wealth.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 29 seconds ago
Owners
Chief exec - Runs the club
Director off football (and his team) - Runs all football operations, including scouting, transfer negotiations contract negotiations and so on.
Manager- coaches the senior quad
This whole club structure is wrong argument is lazy and just wrong.
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That's why we are such a success story, eh?
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SAF and Gill leaving at the same time.
Woodward learning on the job.
late to install a proper sporting structure at the club post SAF.
Poor managerial appointments.
Poor player recruitment.
Poor player performance.
Investment at Chelsea, City, Liverpool.
Liverpool stumbling onto Klopp and his perfect team.
City becoming one of the worlds best run clubs.
There have been a number of reasons why we haven't been as succesful post SAF. It's.not all about the owners or lack of sructure at the club.
ETH said nothing wrong in his comments on Sancho. He was asked the question and he answered honestly.
Sancho responded badly on Twitter though IMO. I think he could have used that to respond but still keep in ETH's goodbooks with something like: "Disappointed not to be involved today. I thought I'd trained well but the manager didn't see it that way. Next week I'll make sure he notices me in a good way".
Gets his point across but also states he'd strive to improve. Job done.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 đ´ó §ó ˘ó ˇó Źó łó ż (U2462)
posted 27 minutes ago
ETH said nothing wrong in his comments on Sancho. He was asked the question and he answered honestly.
Sancho responded badly on Twitter though IMO. I think he could have used that to respond but still keep in ETH's goodbooks with something like: "Disappointed not to be involved today. I thought I'd trained well but the manager didn't see it that way. Next week I'll make sure he notices me in a good way".
Gets his point across but also states he'd strive to improve. Job done.
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What if you'd have 100'000 abusive messages as a result ofnthe managers comments though?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 54 minutes ago
Nothing a squad hates more than players that don't do it on the pitch or at training yet still get picked ahead of guys that, in their mind, do.
It might actually galvanise spirits rather than have broken them?
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Very true.
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posted 17 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 41 seconds ago
I have never been a sancjo fan and still have reservations with ETH.
From an objective stance, I don't support the manager doing what he did. It should've been dealt with in-house knowing the player profile
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In normal circumstances I'd agree however Sancho has been thrown enough rope now by the club and manager.
He effectively got a 3 month holiday last year with full pay so he's a cheeky git for what he's said. And the rumours suggest it's because he has a severe computer game addition as well of all things so I'm sorry I have no sympathy.
We need grafters and winners at this club if we want to be a top club again. We don't need snowflakes like Sancho.
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Absolutely this.
He had so much support last year to get his act together / head straight.
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posted on 15/9/23
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have never been a sancjo fan and still have reservations with ETH.
From an objective stance, I don't support the manager doing what he did. It should've been dealt with in-house knowing the player profile
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Doing what he did? He was asked a question and answered it honestly. And all he said was the player hadnt performed in training. Nothing scandalous or uncalled for. If that’s all it took for Sancho, who hasn’t had a single stand out performance in all his time at United, to throw the toys out then it says all we need to know about the player.
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On the flip side using your own argument maybe it is the manager that is making an uproar out of nothing. He called him out and the player made a rebuttal as he felt he trained well.
This is the world we live in now, I don't like it but here we are. Players have access to social media.
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Called him out??? Are you for real?? ‘He didn’t perform in training this week’ that it’s literally all he said. In what world is that ‘calling him out’. Jesus wept the world has gone soft.
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Look at the negativity towards Sancho just from that statement though.
Hundreds of thousands of people abusing you because the manager decided to out him as a poor trainer.
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There's stories from City, Dortmund and England about his training issues. This isn't new.
Why are people so quick to defend somebody who has done the square root of feck all for us?
Nicolas Pepe did better for Arsenal than Sancho has done for us and he's ridiculed by Arsenal fans.
Sancho is a waster. He needs to be binned.
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He has been disappointing, but then not many have performed well post SAF.
Thinking he hasn't performed.well doesn't mean we can't disagree with how the manager has dealt with this matter.
posted on 15/9/23
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
On pundits, most are ex footballers, so undoubtedly thick as pig shiiit, not sure why so many listen to them so intently.
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Gary and Jamie the exception?
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Not really. Neville is largely a sky mouth piece so should be ignored too.
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They are either too thick or corporate mouth pieces yet people still take note!
Says a lot about the average footy fan!
posted on 15/9/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 43 minutes ago
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posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
posted on 15/9/23
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 7 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 43 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
posted on 15/9/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
On pundits, most are ex footballers, so undoubtedly thick as pig shiiit, not sure why so many listen to them so intently.
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Gary and Jamie the exception?
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Not really. Neville is largely a sky mouth piece so should be ignored too.
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They are either too thick or corporate mouth pieces yet people still take note!
Says a lot about the average footy fan!
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Says the guy who has just put all pundits in to 2 categories - too thick or mouth pieces.
I think the average footy fan is capable of more than your binary thinking, and also capable of recognising where some pundits will have bias or an agenda, and will reach their own judgement on whether they agree or not with the view being expressed.
posted on 15/9/23
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My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
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Brighton have done brilliantly gambling on cheaper players, but the expectations on them are completely different to that of United. Plus, Brighton won't keep getting it right.
Give them our wealth and they will be quoted double the price they currently are.
posted on 15/9/23
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On pundits, most are ex footballers, so undoubtedly thick as pig shiiit, not sure why so many listen to them so intently.
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Gary and Jamie the exception?
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Not really. Neville is largely a sky mouth piece so should be ignored too.
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They are either too thick or corporate mouth pieces yet people still take note!
Says a lot about the average footy fan!
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Says the guy who has just put all pundits in to 2 categories - too thick or mouth pieces.
I think the average footy fan is capable of more than your binary thinking, and also capable of recognising where some pundits will have bias or an agenda, and will reach their own judgement on whether they agree or not with the view being expressed.
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You may be in the minority
posted on 15/9/23
Owners
Chief exec - Runs the club
Director off football (and his team) - Runs all football operations, including scouting, transfer negotiations contract negotiations and so on.
Manager- coaches the senior quad
This whole club structure is wrong argument is lazy and just wrong.
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My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
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Brighton have done brilliantly gambling on cheaper players, but the expectations on them are completely different to that of United. Plus, Brighton won't keep getting it right.
Give them our wealth and they will be quoted double the price they currently are.
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City also have the wealth yet seem pick up players, top players, at reasonable rates. They clearly negotiate well but importantly get things done quickly, without fuss.
We pay over the top for average rubbish.
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comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 29 seconds ago
Owners
Chief exec - Runs the club
Director off football (and his team) - Runs all football operations, including scouting, transfer negotiations contract negotiations and so on.
Manager- coaches the senior quad
This whole club structure is wrong argument is lazy and just wrong.
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That's why we are such a success story, eh?
posted on 15/9/23
Nothing a squad hates more than players that don't do it on the pitch or at training yet still get picked ahead of guys that, in their mind, do.
It might actually galvanise spirits rather than have broken them?
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My biggest gripe with ETH so far is Antony. Okay the manager doesn't dictate the fee we paid but he was very keen to get him here regardless and he's not shown anything like the justification for it thus far.
And in ETH's defence he's had so much negative stuff to deal with already, most of which aren't on the field related either. I feel for him, I really do. He's had a raw deal really in comparison to previous managers in terms of scandals and distractions.
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In a weak league Antony was a stand out player. Not many from the Dutch league transfer that form over to the EPL, not many record signings for Utd have worked out well either! What annoys me the most about Antony is how one dimensional he is, can't even beat a player but has very good work rate. So, is he a FB or a wide player? đ
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Pretty much how I see it too. His defensive work is his best asset and he plays in a front 3.
Very poor signing. Not like us at all. đ
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We are so profligate with money, may be better off if we changed our model.
If our DOF was best in class no way in a million years we buy the likes of Antony or even Sancho!
So many issues, where do we start, mate?! đ
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Who are the best in class DOFs, outside of City?
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If you have the money get the best, if that means stealing the best from your neighbours then so be it. If the best team is leading the way, you either join them (in the way they do things) to match them then beat them, you don't try to reinvent the wheel.
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So, again, who are the best in class DoFs, outside of City?
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Brighton recruit well, many have great structures that would trounce ours.
Give our wealth to Brighton, with the structure they have they would win the league by assembling a squad on a shoestring budget!
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Brighton have done brilliantly gambling on cheaper players, but the expectations on them are completely different to that of United. Plus, Brighton won't keep getting it right.
Give them our wealth and they will be quoted double the price they currently are.
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City also have the wealth yet seem pick up players, top players, at reasonable rates. They clearly negotiate well but importantly get things done quickly, without fuss.
We pay over the top for average rubbish.
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Helped massively by the fact they have the world's best coach / manager, and unlimited wealth.
posted on 15/9/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Pea in a Bun (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 29 seconds ago
Owners
Chief exec - Runs the club
Director off football (and his team) - Runs all football operations, including scouting, transfer negotiations contract negotiations and so on.
Manager- coaches the senior quad
This whole club structure is wrong argument is lazy and just wrong.
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That's why we are such a success story, eh?
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SAF and Gill leaving at the same time.
Woodward learning on the job.
late to install a proper sporting structure at the club post SAF.
Poor managerial appointments.
Poor player recruitment.
Poor player performance.
Investment at Chelsea, City, Liverpool.
Liverpool stumbling onto Klopp and his perfect team.
City becoming one of the worlds best run clubs.
There have been a number of reasons why we haven't been as succesful post SAF. It's.not all about the owners or lack of sructure at the club.
posted on 15/9/23
ETH said nothing wrong in his comments on Sancho. He was asked the question and he answered honestly.
Sancho responded badly on Twitter though IMO. I think he could have used that to respond but still keep in ETH's goodbooks with something like: "Disappointed not to be involved today. I thought I'd trained well but the manager didn't see it that way. Next week I'll make sure he notices me in a good way".
Gets his point across but also states he'd strive to improve. Job done.
posted on 15/9/23
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ETH said nothing wrong in his comments on Sancho. He was asked the question and he answered honestly.
Sancho responded badly on Twitter though IMO. I think he could have used that to respond but still keep in ETH's goodbooks with something like: "Disappointed not to be involved today. I thought I'd trained well but the manager didn't see it that way. Next week I'll make sure he notices me in a good way".
Gets his point across but also states he'd strive to improve. Job done.
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What if you'd have 100'000 abusive messages as a result ofnthe managers comments though?
posted on 15/9/23
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 54 minutes ago
Nothing a squad hates more than players that don't do it on the pitch or at training yet still get picked ahead of guys that, in their mind, do.
It might actually galvanise spirits rather than have broken them?
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Very true.
posted on 16/9/23
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I have never been a sancjo fan and still have reservations with ETH.
From an objective stance, I don't support the manager doing what he did. It should've been dealt with in-house knowing the player profile
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In normal circumstances I'd agree however Sancho has been thrown enough rope now by the club and manager.
He effectively got a 3 month holiday last year with full pay so he's a cheeky git for what he's said. And the rumours suggest it's because he has a severe computer game addition as well of all things so I'm sorry I have no sympathy.
We need grafters and winners at this club if we want to be a top club again. We don't need snowflakes like Sancho.
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Absolutely this.
He had so much support last year to get his act together / head straight.
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