comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
Even better, they all wanted plopp gone last season. But he'll forget that
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Now you're just making things up mate.....

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
World renowned for booing the team and protesting the owners. But yeah, amazing support at the time.
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Yeah that's what we are known for...thats what your Legends and Sir Alex say about us.....

They know the truth, they're Real men......

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you think we are struggling constantly because it's all on the managers then you're a moron mate.

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well, this IS RDD you are talking to
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I actually don't think RDD actually believes in a lot of his opinions tbh. I think he's one of those people who likes to be different for the sake of it.

Everyone who follows football can see our club is broken and banter from rivals aside they also know it's not all on ETH.

The club is a joke. It's full of people who don't belong and it's showing. If we went and hired best in class in the boardroom. Scouting department and sports science teams we'd see big improvements.
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Of course I believe them.

I havent said it is all on the manager.

Nobody can ever say specifically what these other clubs fo so much better and how. Its just lazy, and Ill informed.

comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
Even better, they all wanted plopp gone last season. But he'll forget that
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Now you're just making things up mate.....

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Have a little browse back to last season. #bestestfans

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 24 minutes ago
OP

Tell us, what is the structure at Brighton, and how does it differ from the structure at United?


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If you need to ask that then you have absolutely no reason to be following football.

They are light years ahead of us in terms of scouting for starters. Just look at their recruitment compared to ours.

If you think we are struggling constantly because it's all on the managers then you're a moron mate. This has happened too many times now for it not to be bigger than the coach.
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Just pointing out the lazy, 'our structures terrible, everyone else's is brilliant' argument from some is lazy and ill informed.

Iv not said its all on the manager either.
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Well nobody has said everyone else is Brilliant. Brighton was the example given and there are others too. Brentford are another.

There are also car crash clubs like us such as Everton.

This isn't hard mate. You're making stuff up now that wasn't even said. 😂
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We finished above both Brighton and Brentford last season though.

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
Even better, they all wanted plopp gone last season. But he'll forget that
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Now you're just making things up mate.....

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Have a little browse back to last season. #bestestfans
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It was fine....its a game....we had injuries. Who cares its normal. Better fans than you that's for sure

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I think G Nev sums up the whole situation United find themselves in with this....


'The Glazers are responsible. It’s how it works. You own a business and everything good and bad sits with you! They inherited the best in all areas. They’ve overseen 10 years of mediocrity off the pitch and on the pitch. They set the culture of greed, ill-discipline, indecision and uncertainty that runs right through the club. It would be best if they sold the club with some speed and efficiency and allowed at least the off the pitch items to be corrected properly that re-set the tone and culture. Football is volatile so results on the pitch can be erratic and cyclical but if the off the pitch stuff including the owners direction and leadership are spot on it gives you a better chance to succeed on it.'


Is Neville then crediting the Glazers with all our successes between 2005 and 2014?

comment by Henry Swanson (U4302)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Club’s still following the same structure when SAF was the manager, where manager has full power, it’s all very dated. Man Utd are the footballing equivalent of Nokia. Too stubborn to change that will eventually lead to the demise of a once great club. Just like the stadium, it’s all falling apart.
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Just incorrect re the managers degree of control.

comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
Even better, they all wanted plopp gone last season. But he'll forget that
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Now you're just making things up mate.....

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Have a little browse back to last season. #bestestfans
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It was fine....its a game....we had injuries. Who cares its normal. Better fans than you that's for sure
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Booooo klopp out from the bestest fans.

Injures

It's only a game

#bestestfans

comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I think G Nev sums up the whole situation United find themselves in with this....


'The Glazers are responsible. It’s how it works. You own a business and everything good and bad sits with you! They inherited the best in all areas. They’ve overseen 10 years of mediocrity off the pitch and on the pitch. They set the culture of greed, ill-discipline, indecision and uncertainty that runs right through the club. It would be best if they sold the club with some speed and efficiency and allowed at least the off the pitch items to be corrected properly that re-set the tone and culture. Football is volatile so results on the pitch can be erratic and cyclical but if the off the pitch stuff including the owners direction and leadership are spot on it gives you a better chance to succeed on it.'


Is Neville then crediting the Glazers with all our successes between 2005 and 2014?
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One can only deduce that your a fee short between the sticks. Christ.

RDD’s turned up to take the heat off him.

RDD, you need to up your game here pal.

This scouse mongrel is making a right mug of you and taking away your accolades.

Fight back against the #bestestfans man.

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
Even better, they all wanted plopp gone last season. But he'll forget that
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Now you're just making things up mate.....

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Have a little browse back to last season. #bestestfans
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It was fine....its a game....we had injuries. Who cares its normal. Better fans than you that's for sure
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Booooo klopp out from the bestest fans.

Injures

It's only a game
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Are you an adult?

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 41 seconds ago
RDD’s turned up to take the heat off him.
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RDD is a moron of epic proportions who is just arguing for arguing sake. Nobody is buying what he's saying and we all know he doesn't think we have good owners.

All this back and forward stuff is nonsense. The club isn't winning another PL or CL trophy under the parasites. We can change manager 30 more times it won't change anything.

comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Come to Salah, Come to Success. (U12335)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please'of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
Even better, they all wanted plopp gone last season. But he'll forget that
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Now you're just making things up mate.....

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Have a little browse back to last season. #bestestfans
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It was fine....its a game....we had injuries. Who cares its normal. Better fans than you that's for sure
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Booooo klopp out from the bestest fans.

Injures

It's only a game
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Are you an adult?
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Are you?

#bestestfan

comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
They have done such a bad job with the club, the stadium and the finances that we are basically only being saved now by a sugar daddy / oil state style owner. Something I never wanted to see happen at this club. However I can swallow my pride and accept that a Qatar ownership for its many many faults is still slightly preferable to more years of this what we have now. The Glazers have to go or this club is finished for good.
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Id take either Jim (with his debt plans) or the Sheikh right now. Just to save this club from it's (badly) managed decline.
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What changes will the Qataris or Ratcliffe make?

A good club structure is everything

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I don't think the current structure should've stopped us from using the money invested over the last two summers more sensibly.

For example did nobody at the club last summer not think that signing two 30 year olds lacking in athleticism to play in midfield maybe wasn't the best use of funds and not see it would create problems in the short term?

It was such an obviously poor decision to make.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 41 seconds ago
RDD’s turned up to take the heat off him.
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RDD is a moron of epic proportions who is just arguing for arguing sake. Nobody is buying what he's saying and we all know he doesn't think we have good owners.

All this back and forward stuff is nonsense. The club isn't winning another PL or CL trophy under the parasites. We can change manager 30 more times it won't change anything.
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I dunno, he’s that reeetarded he may well actually believe what he writes.

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
RDD’s turned up to take the heat off him.
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I'm starting to think it might be another sock account. No one can be that stupid on the same thread accept RDD.

Bestest fan, are you a RDD sock account?

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Great Dane (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - Whiteside has done it again (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
I think G Nev sums up the whole situation United find themselves in with this....


'The Glazers are responsible. It’s how it works. You own a business and everything good and bad sits with you! They inherited the best in all areas. They’ve overseen 10 years of mediocrity off the pitch and on the pitch. They set the culture of greed, ill-discipline, indecision and uncertainty that runs right through the club. It would be best if they sold the club with some speed and efficiency and allowed at least the off the pitch items to be corrected properly that re-set the tone and culture. Football is volatile so results on the pitch can be erratic and cyclical but if the off the pitch stuff including the owners direction and leadership are spot on it gives you a better chance to succeed on it.'


Is Neville then crediting the Glazers with all our successes between 2005 and 2014?
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One can only deduce that your a fee short between the sticks. Christ.
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English please.

comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 1 minute ago
A good club structure is everything

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I don't think the current structure should've stopped us from using the money invested over the last two summers more sensibly.

For example did nobody at the club last summer not think that signing two 30 year olds lacking in athleticism to play in midfield maybe wasn't the best use of funds and not see it would create problems in the short term?

It was such an obviously poor decision to make.
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But surely that’s a consequence of the former? The decision making process at the club is terrible because of the ownership. Every season we make the same complaints because every season the club make the same mistakes. That’s without considering the club culture that they’ve fostered due to their indifference and rewarding of failure.

But surely that’s a consequence of the former?

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To an extent yes, but it surely shouldn't require a top class sporting structure to recognise and address such obvious issues that even I can see.

Look I'm winding you all up but the real point is....

Most clubs don't have billions and perfect structure etc

You still have to compete and support. Yeah protest hut its not an excuse


If you have to have every advantage and perfect structure...whats the point.

You should demand more of your players, fans, managers too.

Think Bryan Robson, Steven Gerrard, Jamie Vardy.....

Your fans help determine the culture of a club. We had the worst owners....worse than the glazers.....but still competed with a dross squad at times.

If you need Qataris to win then I'm sorry you're not a proper club. Might aswell be City or PSG, full of plastic

comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 1 minute ago
But surely that’s a consequence of the former?

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To an extent yes, but it surely shouldn't require a top class sporting structure to recognise and address such obvious issues that even I can see.
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Well no, but we don’t even have an average one, clearly. It’s only Everton that stop us having the worst ownership in the league.