comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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What if he's guilty?
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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We haven’t had any famous right wingers for 14 years.
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Absolute rubbish. You don't correct a supposed imbalance by forcing it the other way 'just because'.
There's a far more reasonable, sensible way to treat this and that's neither party is condemned of anything until am actual investigation and trial has taken place.
An accusation should be taken seriously and heard but am attitude of "believe all women" does nothing to ensure that whoever is the actual victim doesn't get done over.
You don't punish a potentially innocent person because "maybe a different guilty person got away with it so this balances it out".
This idiotic thinking is right up there with things like inherited sin or "I can be horrible to you because some people who looked like you were horrible to some people who looked like me once upon a time"
Just take the accusation seriously, do a proper investigation and go from there. It's that simple. You don't need to make a decision on the outcome before yohve looked at anything. We did this for a long, long time and lot of innocent people suffered as a result. Please stop trying to take us back to the days of witch hunts, where you could just finger point at someone and see them burned because people are too emotional and thick to consider the actual facts first.
"believe all to try and adjust a perceived imbalance" is not only utterly moronic, it's simply unfair. Doesn't matter if 1000 actual offenders go away with it the one person who is innocent should not be condemend before the evidence has even been heard. That goes for everyone, across the board, regardless of your race, gender, age, background etc.
This is dangerously stupid logic and I can guarantee that if you were in a position of needing to defend yourself, you'd completely agree. Take away the opportunity to virtue signal, nobody would go along with themselves being condemned for anything before actual evidence had been considered and a trial had.
You'd have been right there, cheering as women burned at the stake if you'd just been born in a different century wouldn't you
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Absolute rubbish. You don't correct a supposed imbalance by forcing it the other way 'just because'.
There's a far more reasonable, sensible way to treat this and that's neither party is condemned of anything until am actual investigation and trial has taken place.
An accusation should be taken seriously and heard but am attitude of "believe all women" does nothing to ensure that whoever is the actual victim doesn't get done over.
You don't punish a potentially innocent person because "maybe a different guilty person got away with it so this balances it out".
This idiotic thinking is right up there with things like inherited sin or "I can be horrible to you because some people who looked like you were horrible to some people who looked like me once upon a time"
Just take the accusation seriously, do a proper investigation and go from there. It's that simple. You don't need to make a decision on the outcome before yohve looked at anything. We did this for a long, long time and lot of innocent people suffered as a result. Please stop trying to take us back to the days of witch hunts, where you could just finger point at someone and see them burned because people are too emotional and thick to consider the actual facts first.
"believe all to try and adjust a perceived imbalance" is not only utterly moronic, it's simply unfair. Doesn't matter if 1000 actual offenders go away with it the one person who is innocent should not be condemend before the evidence has even been heard. That goes for everyone, across the board, regardless of your race, gender, age, background etc.
This is dangerously stupid logic and I can guarantee that if you were in a position of needing to defend yourself, you'd completely agree. Take away the opportunity to virtue signal, nobody would go along with themselves being condemned for anything before actual evidence had been considered and a trial had.
You'd have been right there, cheering as women burned at the stake if you'd just been born in a different century wouldn't you
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What a bizarre take. Save words next time Mr Incel and just type ‘derp derp I hate women derp’
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
comment by Malachi Boateng (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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The default setting should not lean either way.
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If your daughter came to you and told you sometime had raped her, would your default setting be completely neutral? She may just be lying?
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No but that's why parents don't get to lead investigation into alleged perpetrators either
And why family members aren't on juries.
Or why a father who was a police officer would not then being in charge of that case.
Because they would obviously be emotional and biased which isn't anything like a foundation on which to make a judgement.
This is such a stupid question, the fact you think it's some 'gotcha l' is stunning.
Im actually checking out, the levels of sheer stupidity on display across this thread are embarrassing. So many people genuinely struggle with basic logic and reason.
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Malachi Boateng (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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The default setting should not lean either way.
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If your daughter came to you and told you sometime had raped her, would your default setting be completely neutral? She may just be lying?
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No but that's why parents don't get to lead investigation into alleged perpetrators either
And why family members aren't on juries.
Or why a father who was a police officer would not then being in charge of that case.
Because they would obviously be emotional and biased which isn't anything like a foundation on which to make a judgement.
This is such a stupid question, the fact you think it's some 'gotcha l' is stunning.
Im actually checking out, the levels of sheer stupidity on display across this thread are embarrassing. So many people genuinely struggle with basic logic and reason.
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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Ben Shapiro
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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Exactly. One woman falsely accusing a guy actually damages the anti rape side's cause more than it does the pro rape guys' side. Just one lie out of a million is statistically significant and means it's 50/50 whether the other 999,999 women are lying.
One Muslim out of a billion was a terrorist? Got to be wary of those Muslims. The default position when you meet a Muslim should be a neutral one. You shouldn't assume either way if they are or are not a terrorist. They're out to get us.
(Disclaimer: you don't understand)
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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What if he's guilty?
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He's effectively just said that he is.
This thread took a tangent
Some of the comments on this thread is astonishing. And by posters I thought better of.
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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The pro rape side are more than happy to ruin a woman's life by accusing her of lying if the accused gets found not guilty based on not enough evidence. Which is the majority of cases.
The pro rape side still cracks me up.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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We haven’t had any famous right wingers for 14 years.
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What about RDD?
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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When did I say that someone should be convicted?
By saying ‘believe all women’ I’m saying that the police default should be to properly investigate all allegations made by women and try to give them as much of the benefit of the doubt they can whereas for as long as time itself the balance has often been against women and men have gotten away with far too much.
Of course there will be a small number of women who make extremely damaging false claims but that shouldn’t derail an effort by the police to listen to women much more than they have been.
comment by Malachi Boateng (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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The pro rape side are more than happy to ruin a woman's life by accusing her of lying if the accused gets found not guilty based on not enough evidence. Which is the majority of cases.
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Is there such a thing as a pro rape side?
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
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Pretty sure Robb was one championing Pellistri as the lord savour.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
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Pretty sure Robb was one championing Pellistri as the lord savour.
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Never. I’ve never rated either.
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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When did I say that someone should be convicted?
By saying ‘believe all women’ I’m saying that the police default should be to properly investigate all allegations made by women and try to give them as much of the benefit of the doubt they can whereas for as long as time itself the balance has often been against women and men have gotten away with far too much.
Of course there will be a small number of women who make extremely damaging false claims but that shouldn’t derail an effort by the police to listen to women much more than they have been.
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Then you should have chosen your words better. The “believe all women” narrative is disturbing.
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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What if he's guilty?
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He's effectively just said that he is.
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So you are wishing a rapist good luck? Bit weird.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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We haven’t had any famous right wingers for 14 years.
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What about RDD?
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Well played.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
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Pretty sure Robb was one championing Pellistri as the lord savour.
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They all need to be given a fair chance in my opinion. Pessilstri seems to be getting that now. Amad hasn't had a chance yet due to injury, but did enough for Sunderland to be given a shot.
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posted on 29/9/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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What if he's guilty?
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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We haven’t had any famous right wingers for 14 years.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Absolute rubbish. You don't correct a supposed imbalance by forcing it the other way 'just because'.
There's a far more reasonable, sensible way to treat this and that's neither party is condemned of anything until am actual investigation and trial has taken place.
An accusation should be taken seriously and heard but am attitude of "believe all women" does nothing to ensure that whoever is the actual victim doesn't get done over.
You don't punish a potentially innocent person because "maybe a different guilty person got away with it so this balances it out".
This idiotic thinking is right up there with things like inherited sin or "I can be horrible to you because some people who looked like you were horrible to some people who looked like me once upon a time"
Just take the accusation seriously, do a proper investigation and go from there. It's that simple. You don't need to make a decision on the outcome before yohve looked at anything. We did this for a long, long time and lot of innocent people suffered as a result. Please stop trying to take us back to the days of witch hunts, where you could just finger point at someone and see them burned because people are too emotional and thick to consider the actual facts first.
"believe all to try and adjust a perceived imbalance" is not only utterly moronic, it's simply unfair. Doesn't matter if 1000 actual offenders go away with it the one person who is innocent should not be condemend before the evidence has even been heard. That goes for everyone, across the board, regardless of your race, gender, age, background etc.
This is dangerously stupid logic and I can guarantee that if you were in a position of needing to defend yourself, you'd completely agree. Take away the opportunity to virtue signal, nobody would go along with themselves being condemned for anything before actual evidence had been considered and a trial had.
You'd have been right there, cheering as women burned at the stake if you'd just been born in a different century wouldn't you
posted on 29/9/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Absolute rubbish. You don't correct a supposed imbalance by forcing it the other way 'just because'.
There's a far more reasonable, sensible way to treat this and that's neither party is condemned of anything until am actual investigation and trial has taken place.
An accusation should be taken seriously and heard but am attitude of "believe all women" does nothing to ensure that whoever is the actual victim doesn't get done over.
You don't punish a potentially innocent person because "maybe a different guilty person got away with it so this balances it out".
This idiotic thinking is right up there with things like inherited sin or "I can be horrible to you because some people who looked like you were horrible to some people who looked like me once upon a time"
Just take the accusation seriously, do a proper investigation and go from there. It's that simple. You don't need to make a decision on the outcome before yohve looked at anything. We did this for a long, long time and lot of innocent people suffered as a result. Please stop trying to take us back to the days of witch hunts, where you could just finger point at someone and see them burned because people are too emotional and thick to consider the actual facts first.
"believe all to try and adjust a perceived imbalance" is not only utterly moronic, it's simply unfair. Doesn't matter if 1000 actual offenders go away with it the one person who is innocent should not be condemend before the evidence has even been heard. That goes for everyone, across the board, regardless of your race, gender, age, background etc.
This is dangerously stupid logic and I can guarantee that if you were in a position of needing to defend yourself, you'd completely agree. Take away the opportunity to virtue signal, nobody would go along with themselves being condemned for anything before actual evidence had been considered and a trial had.
You'd have been right there, cheering as women burned at the stake if you'd just been born in a different century wouldn't you
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What a bizarre take. Save words next time Mr Incel and just type ‘derp derp I hate women derp’
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Malachi Boateng (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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The default setting should not lean either way.
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If your daughter came to you and told you sometime had raped her, would your default setting be completely neutral? She may just be lying?
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No but that's why parents don't get to lead investigation into alleged perpetrators either
And why family members aren't on juries.
Or why a father who was a police officer would not then being in charge of that case.
Because they would obviously be emotional and biased which isn't anything like a foundation on which to make a judgement.
This is such a stupid question, the fact you think it's some 'gotcha l' is stunning.
Im actually checking out, the levels of sheer stupidity on display across this thread are embarrassing. So many people genuinely struggle with basic logic and reason.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Malachi Boateng (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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The default setting should not lean either way.
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If your daughter came to you and told you sometime had raped her, would your default setting be completely neutral? She may just be lying?
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No but that's why parents don't get to lead investigation into alleged perpetrators either
And why family members aren't on juries.
Or why a father who was a police officer would not then being in charge of that case.
Because they would obviously be emotional and biased which isn't anything like a foundation on which to make a judgement.
This is such a stupid question, the fact you think it's some 'gotcha l' is stunning.
Im actually checking out, the levels of sheer stupidity on display across this thread are embarrassing. So many people genuinely struggle with basic logic and reason.
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Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Ben Shapiro
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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Exactly. One woman falsely accusing a guy actually damages the anti rape side's cause more than it does the pro rape guys' side. Just one lie out of a million is statistically significant and means it's 50/50 whether the other 999,999 women are lying.
One Muslim out of a billion was a terrorist? Got to be wary of those Muslims. The default position when you meet a Muslim should be a neutral one. You shouldn't assume either way if they are or are not a terrorist. They're out to get us.
(Disclaimer: you don't understand)
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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What if he's guilty?
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He's effectively just said that he is.
posted on 29/9/23
This thread took a tangent
posted on 29/9/23
Some of the comments on this thread is astonishing. And by posters I thought better of.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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The pro rape side are more than happy to ruin a woman's life by accusing her of lying if the accused gets found not guilty based on not enough evidence. Which is the majority of cases.
posted on 29/9/23
The pro rape side still cracks me up.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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We haven’t had any famous right wingers for 14 years.
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What about RDD?
posted on 29/9/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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When did I say that someone should be convicted?
By saying ‘believe all women’ I’m saying that the police default should be to properly investigate all allegations made by women and try to give them as much of the benefit of the doubt they can whereas for as long as time itself the balance has often been against women and men have gotten away with far too much.
Of course there will be a small number of women who make extremely damaging false claims but that shouldn’t derail an effort by the police to listen to women much more than they have been.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Malachi Boateng (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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The pro rape side are more than happy to ruin a woman's life by accusing her of lying if the accused gets found not guilty based on not enough evidence. Which is the majority of cases.
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Is there such a thing as a pro rape side?
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
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Pretty sure Robb was one championing Pellistri as the lord savour.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
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Pretty sure Robb was one championing Pellistri as the lord savour.
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Never. I’ve never rated either.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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I worry far less about being falsely accused than I worry about the more likely scenario that a female family member or friend is assaulted by a man and the police can’t proceed to conviction as there’s not enough evidence.
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It's not about the probability of being accused, but rather if you would get a fair trial. You think someone should be convicted based on insufficient evidence—this is shocking.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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When did I say that someone should be convicted?
By saying ‘believe all women’ I’m saying that the police default should be to properly investigate all allegations made by women and try to give them as much of the benefit of the doubt they can whereas for as long as time itself the balance has often been against women and men have gotten away with far too much.
Of course there will be a small number of women who make extremely damaging false claims but that shouldn’t derail an effort by the police to listen to women much more than they have been.
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Then you should have chosen your words better. The “believe all women” narrative is disturbing.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
Its about time that women who falsely accuse men to be hold accountable for their actions with fitting repercussions.
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Statistically far far women don’t get justice for the crimes committed to them by men than the other way round so while no one who falsely accuses the opposite seex should go unpunished the default setting should lean towards believe all women until the imbalance is sorted
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Good luck if you're ever accused.
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What if he's guilty?
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He's effectively just said that he is.
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So you are wishing a rapist good luck? Bit weird.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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We haven’t had any famous right wingers for 14 years.
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What about RDD?
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Well played.
posted on 29/9/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Am-Robb-at (U22716)
posted 24 minutes ago
I think it’s time we gave up on Amad. It’s just never gonna happen with him, like ever.
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Based on what? He has only just turned 21 and had a good loan last season to a Championship club. Similar to one of our famous right wingers from recent history.
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I just don’t see it with him. And with our troubles with right wingers as of late surely at 21 - which isn’t exactly young these days - you’d think if Ten Hag saw something in him he wouldn’t be loaned out again.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’d be shocked if we didn’t sell him at the end of the season.
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I don't get what you mean by 21 not being young these days. 21 is 21. And players have always and will always develop at different rates. Mainly down to their physique/growing.
As for ETH sending him out on loan, was he going to do that? Towards the end of last season he seemed to indicate that Amad would be given a chance with the first team this season whilst he was still on loan at Sunderland.
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Pretty sure Robb was one championing Pellistri as the lord savour.
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They all need to be given a fair chance in my opinion. Pessilstri seems to be getting that now. Amad hasn't had a chance yet due to injury, but did enough for Sunderland to be given a shot.
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