comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 28 minutes ago
VAR hasn't got it wrong...the Human factor has

The quicker it's al AI'd the better
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To do AI in first place they will use actual past decisions. Problem is these fackers made a hash of so many decisions the poor AI system has no chance

comment by JimmyTheRed (U1682)
posted 6 minutes ago
I’m 100% with He Who Dares and Red 666
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🤣🤣 what a dumbass

VAR hasn't got it wrong...the Human factor has
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The Video Assistant Referee is a human. The VAR did get it wrong.

Due to the standards, competence etc., of the on-field ref and linesmen, none of them to officiate in any LFC game for the remainder of the season. The word ‘corruption’ has been used time and again on this post; with a total complete and utter lack of any evidence to support that the users have got it wrong.
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Why would you stop the ref from officiating Liverpool games specifically if it was just incompetence?? That sounds more like you feel it was a specific issue for the ref concerning Liverpool...

Not sure I believe this story coming out this morning personally- it just seems unbelievable the referee as well as two VAR officials haven’t realised the goal hasn’t been given. Also doesn’t explain why they don’t go back once it’s clear an error has been made and it’s still 0-0.

I still think they’ve decided not to award the goal. PGMOL needs to be disbanded. This sort of stuff can’t continue.

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 47 seconds ago
Not sure I believe this story coming out this morning personally- it just seems unbelievable the referee as well as two VAR officials haven’t realised the goal hasn’t been given. Also doesn’t explain why they don’t go back once it’s clear an error has been made and it’s still 0-0.

I still think they’ve decided not to award the goal. PGMOL needs to be disbanded. This sort of stuff can’t continue.
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So my understanding (could be wrong) is as follows.

The ref obviously knew the goal hadn't been given but apparently didn't clarify that to the VAR (presumably he just asked him to check the offside call).

The VAR thought, for some reason, that the goal had been given and that he was asking to confirm it was onside. So he looked, saw it was clearly onside and said "check complete".

The goal was the disallowed but apparently was a check has taken place, as soon as play restarts there is a rule that they cannot go back to it for some reason.

corruption claims are pretty baseless.
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2 former PL refs have admitted corruption already. Not the glamourous money in a brown envelope, back alley meetings type, but corruption all the same.

and funnily enough both refs who admitted corruption did so in favour of Spurs...

comment by RED666👺 The Influencer (U6562)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by RED666👺 The Influencer (U6562)
posted 3 minutes ago
“It has been clearer than ever for years that the PGMOL is the most corrupt organisation in football”
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Rather dramatic! How does this corruption work exactly?
Who is the beneficiary of such corruption?
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Man City. Pretty obvious even to someone with your intelligence I’d have thought?
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🤣…Man City! Grow up you clown 🤡

Next you’ll be telling us City are paying the PGMOL off!
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City are paying the PGMOL off.

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 47 seconds ago
Not sure I believe this story coming out this morning personally- it just seems unbelievable the referee as well as two VAR officials haven’t realised the goal hasn’t been given. Also doesn’t explain why they don’t go back once it’s clear an error has been made and it’s still 0-0.

I still think they’ve decided not to award the goal. PGMOL needs to be disbanded. This sort of stuff can’t continue.
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So my understanding (could be wrong) is as follows.

The ref obviously knew the goal hadn't been given but apparently didn't clarify that to the VAR (presumably he just asked him to check the offside call).

The VAR thought, for some reason, that the goal had been given and that he was asking to confirm it was onside. So he looked, saw it was clearly onside and said "check complete".

The goal was the disallowed but apparently was a check has taken place, as soon as play restarts there is a rule that they cannot go back to it for some reason.
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Then address it before play restarts.

It was a ridiculous decision. These idiots need to try and make sure they arrive at the correct decisions rather than arriving at apologies for not making them.

Breaking - Darren England, VAR on the Tottenham v Liverpool fixture, and Dan Cook, AVAR on the same game, have been replaced for the Nottingham Forest v Brentford and Fulham v Chelsea

comment by Peks (U6618)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
shocking decision

what is the point in VAR, if it facks up decisions like that
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ok the main VAR got it wrong, but 34 seconds between that and the restart of play. Wtf is the assists VAR coote doing? Coote was it? Sat there in silence so not to make his colleague look silly?

comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Peks (U6618)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
shocking decision

what is the point in VAR, if it facks up decisions like that
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ok the main VAR got it wrong, but 34 seconds between that and the restart of play. Wtf is the assists VAR coote doing? Coote was it? Sat there in silence so not to make his colleague look silly?
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Been asking this question all morning.

even if the var ref thought he was just confirming the goal was onside and good..

the ball is then put down for the play to restart from the offside position.. not the centre circle...

does that not raise a single bloody idea in the var ref's mind that something is wrong here?.. and tell the ref to wait.. and then double check what was supposed to be happening

the whole game.. reffing and var, was just errors and incompetence on top of errors and more incompetence..

they shouldn't just be removed from overseeing the next couple of rounds of premier league games.. based on this level of inability, they should never be allowed in charge of another game.

comment by 20th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 44 minutes ago
even if the var ref thought he was just confirming the goal was onside and good..

the ball is then put down for the play to restart from the offside position.. not the centre circle...

does that not raise a single bloody idea in the var ref's mind that something is wrong here?.. and tell the ref to wait.. and then double check what was supposed to be happening

the whole game.. reffing and var, was just errors and incompetence on top of errors and more incompetence..

they shouldn't just be removed from overseeing the next couple of rounds of premier league games.. based on this level of inability, they should never be allowed in charge of another game.
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Unfortunately, the weird rule says as soon as spurs take the free kick it can't be revisited so by the time VAR will have realised that it's been given as a free kick it's probably too late.

Surely the ref said free kick. And they should have been watching, cos he clearly signalled it was disallowed. They had plenty of time to clarify the call.

So the VAR team watched Diaz cut his celebration and heard the Spurs crowd sarcastically cheer and thought a goal had been given?

Do we need them to be drink/drug tested before each game?

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/liverpool-tottenham-var-referees-pgmol-officials-update-b2421825.html

I don-t want to comment on the red cards as you can see both sides, and I don't want to enter a debate that depends on opinion rather than fact. But I think that everyone, whoever they support, has to acknowledge that VAR is supposed to guard against what happened at Spurs yesterday. A clear onside goal ruled out. It wasn't even a close call and is just unacceptabe.

Now, my less rational side.... Getting pssed off with VAR making purely subjective decisions and ruining games. Jones yesteray, Gusto last week, not interfering when yellows are not merited, interfering when reds are harsh ... what's the point??? We all want player safety, we all want players sticking to the rules and fair play. But want we all want most is fairness and a level playing field. This is what VAR was brought in to safeguard but it is not doing that, So what's the point? The season has just started and we have penalties and red cards being given by VAR which are nonsense. It has to end!!

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by 20th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 44 minutes ago
even if the var ref thought he was just confirming the goal was onside and good..

the ball is then put down for the play to restart from the offside position.. not the centre circle...

does that not raise a single bloody idea in the var ref's mind that something is wrong here?.. and tell the ref to wait.. and then double check what was supposed to be happening

the whole game.. reffing and var, was just errors and incompetence on top of errors and more incompetence..

they shouldn't just be removed from overseeing the next couple of rounds of premier league games.. based on this level of inability, they should never be allowed in charge of another game.
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Unfortunately, the weird rule says as soon as spurs take the free kick it can't be revisited so by the time VAR will have realised that it's been given as a free kick it's probably too late.
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No it's not. When did you realize the error yourself? Was it after Spurs had taken the free kick?

I didn't think so.

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by 20th title coming soon. (U12879)
posted 44 minutes ago
even if the var ref thought he was just confirming the goal was onside and good..

the ball is then put down for the play to restart from the offside position.. not the centre circle...

does that not raise a single bloody idea in the var ref's mind that something is wrong here?.. and tell the ref to wait.. and then double check what was supposed to be happening

the whole game.. reffing and var, was just errors and incompetence on top of errors and more incompetence..

they shouldn't just be removed from overseeing the next couple of rounds of premier league games.. based on this level of inability, they should never be allowed in charge of another game.
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Unfortunately, the weird rule says as soon as spurs take the free kick it can't be revisited so by the time VAR will have realised that it's been given as a free kick it's probably too late.
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No it's not. When did you realize the error yourself? Was it after Spurs had taken the free kick?

I didn't think so.
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The error was as obvious as the day is long by looking at where Diaz was stood... without even entertaining the need for VAR lines.... The otter incompetence displayed by the var team is staggering

Otter....🤭

Utter

There's simply no reasonable explanation and this is why I personally prefer VAR because it's gonna keep exposing them and sooner or later they're gonna run out of excuses. Something's gotta give.

I was watching at an angle and on a date, and I could clearly see he was on side...

Even the Spurs fans in the pub were like WTF?