comment by Robb - Under Neon Loneliness (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Call me crazy but there’s possibly a legit argument that we could have left Ronaldo and used the Mount and Hojlund money to improve the midfield and wings.
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How Eriksen is still starting any game, especially City at home is the most obvious indication that our recruitment is fecked.
I like him, but he was never a CM, never mind after a heart attack and over 30.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
We needed a reliable goalscorer and we signed someone that isn’t.
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Reliable goal scorers only score goals if they have chances.
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Reliable goalscorers get into the kind of positions to score goals that novice strikers don’t quite do. We’ve had poor service ever since SAF left and still had strikers score more than what Hojlund has.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 17 seconds ago
Current England internationals.... Kane, Maddison, Rice and JWP all moved clubs this summer. Talented, English (who probably understand the prestige of playing for someone like United) yet you didn't appear to be in for any of them. Surely all 3 would walk into this current United team.
Hojlund looks a decent prospect BUT i fear a Struggling Man United under intense media & fan pressure is hard place to develop... Might not have been the best move for him at this point in his career
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Transfer policy needs changing. I call this an "all the eggs in one basket" policy. If it fails, we are losing so much.
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
We didn't need a GK and haven't upgraded on Fred with the Mount signing.
That's approx £165m including the Hjojlund money that we could have spent on a proven goal scorer and CB.
comment by Robb - Under Neon Loneliness (U22716)
posted 5 minutes ago
*kept Ronaldo
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The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self. Ronaldo leaving had immediate effect to the morale. A player leaving to Saudi Arabia is not something we should be missing.
"We’ve had poor service ever since SAF left and still had strikers score more than what Hojlund has."
He's had some bad luck though with a disallowed goal and as you say, a lack of service.
We haven't had a striker capable of scoring consistently since Fergie left.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
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I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
"The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self."
Yet he starts Rashford every week, who throws his arms in the air every time he doesn't receive the ball, walks around whilst Hoijlund and Antony work their ballacks off and can't hit a barn door.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 seconds ago
"We’ve had poor service ever since SAF left and still had strikers score more than what Hojlund has."
He's had some bad luck though with a disallowed goal and as you say, a lack of service.
We haven't had a striker capable of scoring consistently since Fergie left.
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Lukaku and Ronaldo were fairly consistent goalscorers.
We need someone who combines the best of what they gave with a slightly younger and more professional attitude.
Kane would have got the best of out Rashford. Plays in a very similar way to Son. Good finisher, good pace, plays off the left and would have massively benefited from Kane's ability to drop deep/ create in a no 10 role and run beyond him.... Oh yeah, & the 30 odd goals a year Kane gives you
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
Whatever players we bought this summer, we would have huge squad holes in the areas that we neglected as a consequence.
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Correct, we're still short of a first choice RB, CB, CM and RW imo. Then better squad options at LB, CM and CF.
That's 7 players an about £300m.
However the money we did spend, was spent badly imo. All of Amrabat, Onana and Mount have been really poor so far, Hoijlund is too raw just now and probably a player who should be backup to a top striker, Reguion is what he is, probably an okay squad player.
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I don't think Amrabat has been poor. Onana has been shaky but we had to buy a keeper whatever and I can't see any options that would have been clearly better than Onana in the long term *and* saved us enough money to transform our summer window by enabling us to buy a more established striker / plug other holes. Mount has barely played enough to judge him, and in my view he's a player who is never going to stand out as an individual, but can be an important component in a well functioning system. The total absence of the Casemiro we saw last season has been an underplayed element in our awful start.
Kane would have been two players in one. The creativity for others and the finisher we needed. He’s so good he would probably create chances for himself.
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
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I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
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Yeah but I think Kane would have made a massive difference to United and would have been ok with the move. There's zero credibility in Kane winning trophies at Bayern unless its the CL... They've won the Bundesliga 10 years running without him
It was always a huge risk to buy someone so young and inexperienced to lead the line of a club our size. But I’m not sure who realistically there was to bring in instead? I think in an ideal world EtH would have brought in a far more finished and experienced striker to lead the line and have Rasmus as back up to be eased in.
Keeping Ronaldo wasn’t an option for me, we should have never got him back to begin with.
Our recruitment in general is a complete mess, both the people we seem to have working in recruitment and also allowing the manager so much influence on signings.
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
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I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
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Yeah but I think Kane would have made a massive difference to United and would have been ok with the move. There's zero credibility in Kane winning trophies at Bayern unless its the CL... They've won the Bundesliga 10 years running without him
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Why would he join Utd over Bayern?
Look what he's doing there ffs, it's a stroll in the park.
Kane wouldn’t have joined us, let it go.
I’m pretty sure Kane will be absolutely delighted with any domestic trophies he gets with Bayern.
We shouldn't forget Rasmus isn't our only striker, we have Martial and Rashford who can play there and they take up a large chunk of the wage bill.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 53 seconds ago
"The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self."
Yet he starts Rashford every week, who throws his arms in the air every time he doesn't receive the ball, walks around whilst Hoijlund and Antony work their ballacks off and can't hit a barn door.
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The truth is half the squad should all be kicked off but I dont think we can afford that. The hope is if one goes off, it motivates the rest. Rashford improved for a few games (around the moment Ronaldo left). Hes just hoping he finds form (a lot of supporters are in the list)
That's his great mistake though.
Someone earlier mentioned Callum Wilson which is a pretty sensible idea of a signing. Would have been playing second fiddle to Isak but for the injury and could well have been a signing we could have made imo.
Scores more consistently than most strikers out there and knows the PL very well.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
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I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
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Yeah but I think Kane would have made a massive difference to United and would have been ok with the move. There's zero credibility in Kane winning trophies at Bayern unless its the CL... They've won the Bundesliga 10 years running without him
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Why would he join Utd over Bayern?
Look what he's doing there ffs, it's a stroll in the park.
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Prem goalscoring record.
Stay in England
Oppurtunity to get United back to the top.
More money than Bayern would pay him.
Let's be honest, Bundesliga titles are as prestigious as Ligue 1 or Eredevisie titles.
73'000
It might just be becoming clearer and clearer that Bruno might well be the issue that is the glue keeping all this poor play together. Would like to see an experiment of him not playing for 10 games and seeing what happens.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
We needed a reliable goalscorer and we signed someone that isn’t.
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Reliable goal scorers only score goals if they have chances.
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They also get into the positions to get chances.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 53 seconds ago
"The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self."
Yet he starts Rashford every week, who throws his arms in the air every time he doesn't receive the ball, walks around whilst Hoijlund and Antony work their ballacks off and can't hit a barn door.
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The truth is half the squad should all be kicked off but I dont think we can afford that. The hope is if one goes off, it motivates the rest. Rashford improved for a few games (around the moment Ronaldo left). Hes just hoping he finds form (a lot of supporters are in the list)
That's his great mistake though.
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Yeah I get it, but we have a young hungry and talented player sat on the bench who does everything Rashford isn't. We're too predictable and easy to play against right now.
Garnacho is raw, but every time he plays he makes something happen. A run of 5-10 games and who knows where he would be?
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posted on 30/10/23
comment by Robb - Under Neon Loneliness (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
Call me crazy but there’s possibly a legit argument that we could have left Ronaldo and used the Mount and Hojlund money to improve the midfield and wings.
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How Eriksen is still starting any game, especially City at home is the most obvious indication that our recruitment is fecked.
I like him, but he was never a CM, never mind after a heart attack and over 30.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
We needed a reliable goalscorer and we signed someone that isn’t.
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Reliable goal scorers only score goals if they have chances.
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Reliable goalscorers get into the kind of positions to score goals that novice strikers don’t quite do. We’ve had poor service ever since SAF left and still had strikers score more than what Hojlund has.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 17 seconds ago
Current England internationals.... Kane, Maddison, Rice and JWP all moved clubs this summer. Talented, English (who probably understand the prestige of playing for someone like United) yet you didn't appear to be in for any of them. Surely all 3 would walk into this current United team.
Hojlund looks a decent prospect BUT i fear a Struggling Man United under intense media & fan pressure is hard place to develop... Might not have been the best move for him at this point in his career
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Transfer policy needs changing. I call this an "all the eggs in one basket" policy. If it fails, we are losing so much.
posted on 30/10/23
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
posted on 30/10/23
We didn't need a GK and haven't upgraded on Fred with the Mount signing.
That's approx £165m including the Hjojlund money that we could have spent on a proven goal scorer and CB.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Robb - Under Neon Loneliness (U22716)
posted 5 minutes ago
*kept Ronaldo
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The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self. Ronaldo leaving had immediate effect to the morale. A player leaving to Saudi Arabia is not something we should be missing.
posted on 30/10/23
"We’ve had poor service ever since SAF left and still had strikers score more than what Hojlund has."
He's had some bad luck though with a disallowed goal and as you say, a lack of service.
We haven't had a striker capable of scoring consistently since Fergie left.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
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I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
posted on 30/10/23
"The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self."
Yet he starts Rashford every week, who throws his arms in the air every time he doesn't receive the ball, walks around whilst Hoijlund and Antony work their ballacks off and can't hit a barn door.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 seconds ago
"We’ve had poor service ever since SAF left and still had strikers score more than what Hojlund has."
He's had some bad luck though with a disallowed goal and as you say, a lack of service.
We haven't had a striker capable of scoring consistently since Fergie left.
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Lukaku and Ronaldo were fairly consistent goalscorers.
We need someone who combines the best of what they gave with a slightly younger and more professional attitude.
posted on 30/10/23
Kane would have got the best of out Rashford. Plays in a very similar way to Son. Good finisher, good pace, plays off the left and would have massively benefited from Kane's ability to drop deep/ create in a no 10 role and run beyond him.... Oh yeah, & the 30 odd goals a year Kane gives you
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 9 minutes ago
Whatever players we bought this summer, we would have huge squad holes in the areas that we neglected as a consequence.
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Correct, we're still short of a first choice RB, CB, CM and RW imo. Then better squad options at LB, CM and CF.
That's 7 players an about £300m.
However the money we did spend, was spent badly imo. All of Amrabat, Onana and Mount have been really poor so far, Hoijlund is too raw just now and probably a player who should be backup to a top striker, Reguion is what he is, probably an okay squad player.
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I don't think Amrabat has been poor. Onana has been shaky but we had to buy a keeper whatever and I can't see any options that would have been clearly better than Onana in the long term *and* saved us enough money to transform our summer window by enabling us to buy a more established striker / plug other holes. Mount has barely played enough to judge him, and in my view he's a player who is never going to stand out as an individual, but can be an important component in a well functioning system. The total absence of the Casemiro we saw last season has been an underplayed element in our awful start.
posted on 30/10/23
Kane would have been two players in one. The creativity for others and the finisher we needed. He’s so good he would probably create chances for himself.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
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I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
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Yeah but I think Kane would have made a massive difference to United and would have been ok with the move. There's zero credibility in Kane winning trophies at Bayern unless its the CL... They've won the Bundesliga 10 years running without him
posted on 30/10/23
It was always a huge risk to buy someone so young and inexperienced to lead the line of a club our size. But I’m not sure who realistically there was to bring in instead? I think in an ideal world EtH would have brought in a far more finished and experienced striker to lead the line and have Rasmus as back up to be eased in.
Keeping Ronaldo wasn’t an option for me, we should have never got him back to begin with.
Our recruitment in general is a complete mess, both the people we seem to have working in recruitment and also allowing the manager so much influence on signings.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
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I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
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Yeah but I think Kane would have made a massive difference to United and would have been ok with the move. There's zero credibility in Kane winning trophies at Bayern unless its the CL... They've won the Bundesliga 10 years running without him
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Why would he join Utd over Bayern?
Look what he's doing there ffs, it's a stroll in the park.
posted on 30/10/23
Kane wouldn’t have joined us, let it go.
posted on 30/10/23
I’m pretty sure Kane will be absolutely delighted with any domestic trophies he gets with Bayern.
posted on 30/10/23
We shouldn't forget Rasmus isn't our only striker, we have Martial and Rashford who can play there and they take up a large chunk of the wage bill.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 53 seconds ago
"The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self."
Yet he starts Rashford every week, who throws his arms in the air every time he doesn't receive the ball, walks around whilst Hoijlund and Antony work their ballacks off and can't hit a barn door.
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The truth is half the squad should all be kicked off but I dont think we can afford that. The hope is if one goes off, it motivates the rest. Rashford improved for a few games (around the moment Ronaldo left). Hes just hoping he finds form (a lot of supporters are in the list)
That's his great mistake though.
posted on 30/10/23
Someone earlier mentioned Callum Wilson which is a pretty sensible idea of a signing. Would have been playing second fiddle to Isak but for the injury and could well have been a signing we could have made imo.
Scores more consistently than most strikers out there and knows the PL very well.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 1 minute ago
Surely the money you spunked on Mount, Hojlund, Sancho & Anthony combined would have been enough to twist Levy's arm at some point in the last 18 months to have got Kane..... He's what you needed for the past 3 years !!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think at this stage in his career Kane wants to win stuff, and he’ll have a much better chance of that at Bayern
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Yeah but I think Kane would have made a massive difference to United and would have been ok with the move. There's zero credibility in Kane winning trophies at Bayern unless its the CL... They've won the Bundesliga 10 years running without him
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Why would he join Utd over Bayern?
Look what he's doing there ffs, it's a stroll in the park.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prem goalscoring record.
Stay in England
Oppurtunity to get United back to the top.
More money than Bayern would pay him.
Let's be honest, Bundesliga titles are as prestigious as Ligue 1 or Eredevisie titles.
73'000
posted on 30/10/23
It might just be becoming clearer and clearer that Bruno might well be the issue that is the glue keeping all this poor play together. Would like to see an experiment of him not playing for 10 games and seeing what happens.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
We needed a reliable goalscorer and we signed someone that isn’t.
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Reliable goal scorers only score goals if they have chances.
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They also get into the positions to get chances.
posted on 30/10/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 53 seconds ago
"The one good thing ETH has done was to gradually work at removing the ones with a bloated sense of self."
Yet he starts Rashford every week, who throws his arms in the air every time he doesn't receive the ball, walks around whilst Hoijlund and Antony work their ballacks off and can't hit a barn door.
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The truth is half the squad should all be kicked off but I dont think we can afford that. The hope is if one goes off, it motivates the rest. Rashford improved for a few games (around the moment Ronaldo left). Hes just hoping he finds form (a lot of supporters are in the list)
That's his great mistake though.
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Yeah I get it, but we have a young hungry and talented player sat on the bench who does everything Rashford isn't. We're too predictable and easy to play against right now.
Garnacho is raw, but every time he plays he makes something happen. A run of 5-10 games and who knows where he would be?
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