I genuinely don't get the anti-Israel automatically = anti-semitic argument? Israel is a nation not a race.

It's a Jewish religion that's under fire. The muslims will not stop until all jews have been destroyed.
Whoever started this business on this. Thread wants to stop. because it will happen. In this country, there will be Civil War in the future,all down to religious mania.
Keep the thread for football

comment by Uncle Tom (U1899)
posted 11 minutes ago
Taking land is not taking lives, Palestine is a terrorist run country, with hamas and hezbollah.
Israel never attacks, but has a right to Retaliate.
When children are murdered in their mother's arms along with their mother, Hundreds of hostages taken .some murdered, I firmly believe that what has happened there will happen in britain at some time in the future.
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Imagine if greater Manchester was split in to three and all the white people were put in 1/3 of it and basically imprisoned for 20 years. Would you think it strange that the people there would revolt against those who imprisoned them? Numerically Gaza is the 1/3 the size of Greater Manchester and the population is 2/3 that of Greater Manchester so it’s a reasonable comparison. The whole of the land of Israel was stolen from those living there. They are the only nation allowed to ignore the UN on taking land from other countries. They refuse to come to any form of agreement which does not include the expansion of Israel’s borders. The Settlers continue the biggest land grab since the US stole Indian lands. As Scouse said Israel is not a religion or a race. There are plenty of people of the Jewish faith or of Jewish ancestry who don’t support the Israeli government. There are also antisemites who support the Israeli government, especially the right wing in the US.
Israel is currently acting in Gaza as Germany did in Warsaw in 1943. It is only Joe Biden preventing them from a similar genocidal campaign.

The jews did knock attack germany

* Did not

"The Muslims will not stop until all Jews have been destroyed."

"The Muslims"? . Are they all murderers then? I work with quite a few.

Militant Muslims are what i'm talking about, religion Is the biggest evil in the world.
You only have to look to Irelands catholics and protestants killing each other, All in the name of religion, just fanatics

UT, I think you'll find that 'religion' is a generally good cover for nefarious activities. It also suits governments for the (voting) public to swallow this line.

View ... can you start another match thread so we can keep this about football?

Its worth trying to avoid using terms like "the Muslims" or "the Jews" as if they were all the same with the sane opinions. Maybe we should stick to bickering about Warne though.

Fin

I blame VC in this case, I was behaving myself until he posted that bollox.

comment by Uncle Tom (U1899)
posted 13 minutes ago
The jews did knock attack germany
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Your lack of understand of any argument is becoming legendary. The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto revolted against their oppressors who had imprisoned them , just as Israel has imprisoned over 2 million Palestinians in Gaza for over 20 years. What would you do were you in the same situation?
It is not a simple matter of religion. Many Israelis are secular. There is a significant number of Palestinians who are Christian or secular. Being treated as second class citizens is generally based on land ownership rather than beliefs.
In this world there are good people who do good things and bad people who do bad things but to make good people do bad things they invented religion. I don’t subscribe entirely to that but one thing I do believe is that where people believe absurdities they commi atrocities. This has been shown to be the case throughout history.

I guess the request to keep this political free has been denied.

UT you have to be careful with your wording, to label Muslims 'will not stop until all the Jews are destroyed' just highlights a backward mentality. If you're citing HAMAS terrorists call them that became they're not acting to represent Muslim faith.

Secondly there's this hypocritical outcry , what happened in Israel is a travesty ( I don't want that to be lost in translation) but at what point do those who reflect on Israel's plight not consider the brutal actions of IDF pre Oct?

There's so much bloodshed whilst Muslims were preparing for the month of Ramadan in mosques and being brutally beaten and executed?

In recent days there's numerous posts on social media highlighting a 'Sea of Hatred' during the protests in London that were pro Palestine. Scratch the surface and you'll see lots of non Zionist Jews at these rallies.

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 6 minutes ago
UT, I think you'll find that 'religion' is a generally good cover for nefarious activities. It also suits governments for the (voting) public to swallow this line.
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indeed but theproblem is, if you look at Afghanistan, women have been murdered there just because they want to go to School, because sharia forbids it, and in parts of our major cities Police don't go in because Sharia law has taken over already,

comment by Desicafu (U8481)
posted 4 minutes ago
I guess the request to keep this political free has been denied.

UT you have to be careful with your wording, to label Muslims 'will not stop until all the Jews are destroyed' just highlights a backward mentality. If you're citing HAMAS terrorists call them that became they're not acting to represent Muslim faith.

Secondly there's this hypocritical outcry , what happened in Israel is a travesty ( I don't want that to be lost in translation) but at what point do those who reflect on Israel's plight not consider the brutal actions of IDF pre Oct?

There's so much bloodshed whilst Muslims were preparing for the month of Ramadan in mosques and being brutally beaten and executed?

In recent days there's numerous posts on social media highlighting a 'Sea of Hatred' during the protests in London that were pro Palestine. Scratch the surface and you'll see lots of non Zionist Jews at these rallies.




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I started keep it for football but it didn't happen.

Stated

comment by Uncle Tom (U1899)
posted 27 minutes ago
Militant Muslims are what i'm talking about, religion Is the biggest evil in the world.
You only have to look to Irelands catholics and protestants killing each other, All in the name of religion, just fanatics
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And it didnt stop until there was a ceasefire & talks.

We will have to disagree on this UT. The idea of good and bad in most conflicts is generally a vast over simplification.
So if we lose our next two games do you think the statement made by the club yesterday will mean anything?

I didn't think the club HAD made a statement. Wasn't it just hearsay?

You all know what I think I think Paul Warne will get us up.

comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted 5 minutes ago
I didn't think the club HAD made a statement. Wasn't it just hearsay?
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Can't blame them, they split-up in 2002.

comment by Uncle Tom (U1899)
posted 4 minutes ago
You all know what I think I think Paul Warne will get us up.
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Will there ever be a reconciliation ?

comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 still 'Rockin' On' (U17428)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Uncle Tom (U1899)
posted 4 minutes ago
You all know what I think I think Paul Warne will get us up.
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Will there ever be a reconciliation ?
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Doubt it

If he’s sacked there will have to be.