If human rights mattered then we wouldn't be able to have another world cup anywhere
A lot of huge sporting events are being held in Saudi, so much money in it for all concerned over there.
its only a matter of time before this comes the norm.
I think the link you make ref Hitler is way off tho, there are two different, and obvious motives between the two events.
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 51 seconds ago
A lot of huge sporting events are being held in Saudi, so much money in it for all concerned over there.
its only a matter of time before this comes the norm.
I think the link you make ref Hitler is way off tho, there are two different, and obvious motives between the two events.
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It is not way off. Saudi is one of 15 nations that have the death penalty for atheism in their statutes.
It is a human right to believe or not believe in God, or have we forgotten 9/11, 7/7, or Charlie Hebdo?
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
Sport and money, correction
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 14 seconds ago
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
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No, I did not watch the boxing. You cannot separate sport from the rest of life. Before you accuse me of making things up I suggest you consult the accepted history.
Sorry in life there are standards to be set and maintained
I did not watch the final in Qatar. I spent my time reading up on quantum mechanics. I now know more about PAM Dirac, who was a far better man than the average. I enjoy football but I am not addicted to it. What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 39 minutes ago
If human rights mattered then we wouldn't be able to have another World Cup anywhere
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No country is perfect, but there are standards we should live by. The recent European club Super League was supposedly inevitable. Is there any line that you will not cross.
Grey, think we've got our wires crossed here mate
I never accused of any such thing at all?
my point is huge sporting events are moving to Saudi, its where a lot of big bucks are. the decisions to move events there are not for anything other than sport and money.
again, the link you make with Hitler is wrong
What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
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- well, at least you're not being overly dramatic
Nato countries is also the world's largest terrorist organisation. they also should be banned from hosting competitons
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
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Well, trusting the Saudis worked well for Jamal Khashoggi. The Israels should beware of trusting them
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
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comment by spyro-12 (U21947)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nato countries is also the world's largest terrorist organisation. they also should be banned from hosting competitons
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This.
If Saudi are head choppers then NATO are body rippers.
comment by spyro-12 (U21947)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nato countries is also the world's largest terrorist organisation. they also should be banned from hosting competitons
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Yes, those Swedes have a lot to answer for. I am being sarcastic. Have you rounded up the mice up yet?
Is the cult that inhabits this board even more reactionary than the readers of the Daily Mail? No wonder that Simon Jordan has a job. He is defending the owner of Sheffield Wednesday. The 49s may not be perfect, but compared to some club owners they are enlightened. The Rhubarb King should wake up and smell the coffee.
comment by Grey Knight (U22886)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 14 seconds ago
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I did not watch the boxing. You cannot separate sport from the rest of life. Before you accuse me of making things up I suggest you consult the accepted history.
Sorry in life there are standards to be set and maintained
I did not watch the final in Qatar. I spent my time reading up on quantum mechanics. I now know more about PAM Dirac, who was a far better man than the average. I enjoy football but I am not addicted to it. What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for drawing our attention to Dirac, who was the Bielsa of Physics.
https://cds.cern.ch/record/1733369/files/vol42-issue7-p015-e.pdf
And thanks to all for this delightfully crazy thread. Much needed right now.
Am I missing something here?..
"Leeds City was forcibly shut down for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches. Footballers at that time were on relatively poor wages."
I've thought all my time,(a long time!)as a Leeds fan City were kicked out of the league for miss use of money, didn't know it was for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches!..
Not unless you mean they were kicked out for getting caught doing what everybody else was doing!..
As for FIFA, they're only doing what the English Premier league are doing but with the rest of football, pulling as much crap as it can from the man that has very little to say!..
So, that means it doesn't really matter what anybody wants to say, unless any of us can or wants to pay as much as others can!..
comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 45 minutes ago
Am I missing something here?..
"Leeds City was forcibly shut down for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches. Footballers at that time were on relatively poor wages."
I've thought all my time,(a long time!)as a Leeds fan City were kicked out of the league for miss use of money, didn't know it was for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches!..
Not unless you mean they were kicked out for getting caught doing what everybody else was doing!..
As for FIFA, they're only doing what the English Premier league are doing but with the rest of football, pulling as much crap as it can from the man that has very little to say!..
So, that means it doesn't really matter what anybody wants to say, unless any of us can or wants to pay as much as others can!..
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The story goes that Arsenal was involved, but they were the FAs' darlings. Port Vale lobbied to have Leeds City booted out so that they could replace them. The players were sold like slaves at the block having no choice where they went to. The FA kept the money.
comment by The heart of Farkeness (U19827)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Grey Knight (U22886)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 14 seconds ago
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I did not watch the boxing. You cannot separate sport from the rest of life. Before you accuse me of making things up I suggest you consult the accepted history.
Sorry in life there are standards to be set and maintained
I did not watch the final in Qatar. I spent my time reading up on quantum mechanics. I now know more about PAM Dirac, who was a far better man than the average. I enjoy football but I am not addicted to it. What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for drawing our attention to Dirac, who was the Bielsa of Physics.
https://cds.cern.ch/record/1733369/files/vol42-issue7-p015-e.pdf
And thanks to all for this delightfully crazy thread. Much needed right now.
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Dirac was Asperger when people were allowed to describe themselves as such before the politically correct lot got involved.
Shouldn't we be asking why are the Saudi's the only candidates left standing with the Australians stepping aside? Is it the case that very few nations can afford to host the games?
Multiple destinations are the sensible solution, but who believes FIFA can be sensible? It is the people's game, but the elites have taken over the game and messed it up. It would be nice if the UK and Eire had a joint bid, the place where modern football was born. Football may have started in England, but Scotland, Wales and the whole of Ireland had a part to play in its birth.
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posted on 31/10/23
If human rights mattered then we wouldn't be able to have another world cup anywhere
posted on 31/10/23
A lot of huge sporting events are being held in Saudi, so much money in it for all concerned over there.
its only a matter of time before this comes the norm.
I think the link you make ref Hitler is way off tho, there are two different, and obvious motives between the two events.
posted on 31/10/23
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 51 seconds ago
A lot of huge sporting events are being held in Saudi, so much money in it for all concerned over there.
its only a matter of time before this comes the norm.
I think the link you make ref Hitler is way off tho, there are two different, and obvious motives between the two events.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is not way off. Saudi is one of 15 nations that have the death penalty for atheism in their statutes.
It is a human right to believe or not believe in God, or have we forgotten 9/11, 7/7, or Charlie Hebdo?
posted on 31/10/23
im ing at you OP
posted on 31/10/23
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
posted on 31/10/23
Sport and money, correction
posted on 31/10/23
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 14 seconds ago
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I did not watch the boxing. You cannot separate sport from the rest of life. Before you accuse me of making things up I suggest you consult the accepted history.
Sorry in life there are standards to be set and maintained
I did not watch the final in Qatar. I spent my time reading up on quantum mechanics. I now know more about PAM Dirac, who was a far better man than the average. I enjoy football but I am not addicted to it. What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
posted on 31/10/23
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
posted on 31/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 39 minutes ago
If human rights mattered then we wouldn't be able to have another World Cup anywhere
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No country is perfect, but there are standards we should live by. The recent European club Super League was supposedly inevitable. Is there any line that you will not cross.
posted on 31/10/23
Grey, think we've got our wires crossed here mate
I never accused of any such thing at all?
my point is huge sporting events are moving to Saudi, its where a lot of big bucks are. the decisions to move events there are not for anything other than sport and money.
again, the link you make with Hitler is wrong
posted on 31/10/23
What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
--------------
- well, at least you're not being overly dramatic
posted on 31/10/23
hes mental
posted on 31/10/23
Nato countries is also the world's largest terrorist organisation. they also should be banned from hosting competitons
posted on 31/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
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Well, trusting the Saudis worked well for Jamal Khashoggi. The Israels should beware of trusting them
posted on 31/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
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posted on 31/10/23
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Just wait until they announce Israel 2038
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posted on 31/10/23
comment by spyro-12 (U21947)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nato countries is also the world's largest terrorist organisation. they also should be banned from hosting competitons
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This.
If Saudi are head choppers then NATO are body rippers.
posted on 31/10/23
comment by spyro-12 (U21947)
posted 12 minutes ago
Nato countries is also the world's largest terrorist organisation. they also should be banned from hosting competitons
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Yes, those Swedes have a lot to answer for. I am being sarcastic. Have you rounded up the mice up yet?
posted on 31/10/23
Is the cult that inhabits this board even more reactionary than the readers of the Daily Mail? No wonder that Simon Jordan has a job. He is defending the owner of Sheffield Wednesday. The 49s may not be perfect, but compared to some club owners they are enlightened. The Rhubarb King should wake up and smell the coffee.
posted on 31/10/23
comment by Grey Knight (U22886)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 14 seconds ago
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I did not watch the boxing. You cannot separate sport from the rest of life. Before you accuse me of making things up I suggest you consult the accepted history.
Sorry in life there are standards to be set and maintained
I did not watch the final in Qatar. I spent my time reading up on quantum mechanics. I now know more about PAM Dirac, who was a far better man than the average. I enjoy football but I am not addicted to it. What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for drawing our attention to Dirac, who was the Bielsa of Physics.
https://cds.cern.ch/record/1733369/files/vol42-issue7-p015-e.pdf
And thanks to all for this delightfully crazy thread. Much needed right now.
posted on 31/10/23
Am I missing something here?..
"Leeds City was forcibly shut down for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches. Footballers at that time were on relatively poor wages."
I've thought all my time,(a long time!)as a Leeds fan City were kicked out of the league for miss use of money, didn't know it was for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches!..
Not unless you mean they were kicked out for getting caught doing what everybody else was doing!..
As for FIFA, they're only doing what the English Premier league are doing but with the rest of football, pulling as much crap as it can from the man that has very little to say!..
So, that means it doesn't really matter what anybody wants to say, unless any of us can or wants to pay as much as others can!..
posted on 31/10/23
comment by LufcGermany (U6066)
posted 45 minutes ago
Am I missing something here?..
"Leeds City was forcibly shut down for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches. Footballers at that time were on relatively poor wages."
I've thought all my time,(a long time!)as a Leeds fan City were kicked out of the league for miss use of money, didn't know it was for participating in an unofficial competition that would have given ordinary fans some pleasure before they went into the trenches!..
Not unless you mean they were kicked out for getting caught doing what everybody else was doing!..
As for FIFA, they're only doing what the English Premier league are doing but with the rest of football, pulling as much crap as it can from the man that has very little to say!..
So, that means it doesn't really matter what anybody wants to say, unless any of us can or wants to pay as much as others can!..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The story goes that Arsenal was involved, but they were the FAs' darlings. Port Vale lobbied to have Leeds City booted out so that they could replace them. The players were sold like slaves at the block having no choice where they went to. The FA kept the money.
posted on 31/10/23
comment by The heart of Farkeness (U19827)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Grey Knight (U22886)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - its not coming home (U21595)
posted 14 seconds ago
Grey, as an Atheist myself, I of course think that its ridiculous, you're missing the point.
Its about sport, and sport only - the Hitler link is way off because there was act of provocation instructed by the FA (so you say)... unless you're suggesting the same will happen again? - I doubt it, didn;t see any of that during the massive boxing events recently? - did you?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I did not watch the boxing. You cannot separate sport from the rest of life. Before you accuse me of making things up I suggest you consult the accepted history.
Sorry in life there are standards to be set and maintained
I did not watch the final in Qatar. I spent my time reading up on quantum mechanics. I now know more about PAM Dirac, who was a far better man than the average. I enjoy football but I am not addicted to it. What will you do to get your fix of football? Lie cheat murder.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for drawing our attention to Dirac, who was the Bielsa of Physics.
https://cds.cern.ch/record/1733369/files/vol42-issue7-p015-e.pdf
And thanks to all for this delightfully crazy thread. Much needed right now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dirac was Asperger when people were allowed to describe themselves as such before the politically correct lot got involved.
posted on 31/10/23
Shouldn't we be asking why are the Saudi's the only candidates left standing with the Australians stepping aside? Is it the case that very few nations can afford to host the games?
posted on 1/11/23
Multiple destinations are the sensible solution, but who believes FIFA can be sensible? It is the people's game, but the elites have taken over the game and messed it up. It would be nice if the UK and Eire had a joint bid, the place where modern football was born. Football may have started in England, but Scotland, Wales and the whole of Ireland had a part to play in its birth.
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