The hollowest of title victories, would those sides even want them
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 31 seconds ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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Nope, me either.
The charges relate to 2009 to 2018, so why does this cover the period after?
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
The hollowest of title victories, would those sides even want them
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Personally no. Winning a title/trophy is about the moment not years later
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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I do. They will definitely get some sort of punishment. It's going to be very difficult for the PL to explain 115 mistakes to the other clubs. There's clearly a strong case against them for the PL to go public and tarnish their own brand like they did.
Will the punishment fit the crime though? Probably not.
Can they strip Chelsea too so Spurs can end their drought.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 11 minutes ago
The charges relate to 2009 to 2018, so why does this cover the period after?
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Probably won't but it should, as anything they won afterwards was built on foundations laid in 2008.
https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1724717860256190916?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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I do. They will definitely get some sort of punishment. It's going to be very difficult for the PL to explain 115 mistakes to the other clubs. There's clearly a strong case against them for the PL to go public and tarnish their own brand like they did.
Will the punishment fit the crime though? Probably not.
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Bigger jobs than City will refuse to accept a lenient outcome if proven to have cheated.
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 11 minutes ago
The charges relate to 2009 to 2018, so why does this cover the period after?
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Probably won't but it should, as anything they won afterwards was built on foundations laid in 2008.
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Surely any point losses should cover any period that their cheating allowed them to comply with FFP.
So if they would have fail FFP 2018-2023 without cheating, the punishment should include those seasons.
comment by Simply Red (U22987)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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I do. They will definitely get some sort of punishment. It's going to be very difficult for the PL to explain 115 mistakes to the other clubs. There's clearly a strong case against them for the PL to go public and tarnish their own brand like they did.
Will the punishment fit the crime though? Probably not.
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Bigger jobs than City will refuse to accept a lenient outcome if proven to have cheated.
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Clubs,.not jobs.
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
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Yeah behave, Juve are a mega club, City are Torino with a few quid
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
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Yeah behave, Juve are a mega club, City are Torino with a few quid
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I was trying to be kind.
Of course Juve are the bigger club traditionally although they do have a much reduced stadium capacity these days and they have only won as many European Cups as City have now. The gap is closing as Serie A isn't the league it once was.
City definitely bigger than Torino though.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
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Yeah behave, Juve are a mega club, City are Torino with a few quid
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I was trying to be kind.
Of course Juve are the bigger club traditionally although they do have a much reduced stadium capacity these days and they have only won as many European Cups as City have now. The gap is closing as Serie A isn't the league it once was.
City definitely bigger than Torino though.
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R they fook
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
The hollowest of title victories, would those sides even want them
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I don’t think the footballing side of clubs would, players, coaches, fans, but at the end of the day you don’t look at how titles were won in 29 years time.
Torino were a much bigger club than City were before the oil strike. In fact they are one of Italys most successful clubs to this day. City don't come close.
There isn't going to be any punishment for City now. It would have been handed out by now if that was the case.
The PL as an organisation (so all PL clubs then) won't want any reputational or commercial damage. City being found guilty and punished will do this hugely.
It's all about money. PL owners/chairmen/CEO's will happily write off anything that has gone on before in order to protect future revenues.
The best way to do this would be to not find City guilty, in the event of them being guilty.
Surely in the event of them being found guilty a points deduction for a single season wouldn't really suffice?
At the very least, and being lenient, it should be points deductions over multiple seasons, to go hand in hand with the number of seasons they have been found in which to have broken the rules?
Expulsion would be the most fitting punishment if they were found guilty. They'd have competed largely at the top end of the PL year after year on the back of financial cheating, winning lots of trophies. The integrity of the PL will have been shot to pieces.
Once they stopped complying with the PL investigation is when things should have come to a head. That action in itself should have led to them being unable to play in the PL until they provided the evidence that they claim to have.
What should happen, is they should be relegated to League 2, but that would be a real punishment, so won't happen.
Relegation would see sponsorship values re negotiated, TV money going through the floor, no UEFA money, and players having to leave on frees as they couldn't honour the players contracts.
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 8 minutes ago
There isn't going to be any punishment for City now. It would have been handed out by now if that was the case.
The PL as an organisation (so all PL clubs then) won't want any reputational or commercial damage. City being found guilty and punished will do this hugely.
It's all about money. PL owners/chairmen/CEO's will happily write off anything that has gone on before in order to protect future revenues.
The best way to do this would be to not find City guilty, in the event of them being guilty.
Surely in the event of them being found guilty a points deduction for a single season wouldn't really suffice?
At the very least, and being lenient, it should be points deductions over multiple seasons, to go hand in hand with the number of seasons they have been found in which to have broken the rules?
Expulsion would be the most fitting punishment if they were found guilty. They'd have competed largely at the top end of the PL year after year on the back of financial cheating, winning lots of trophies. The integrity of the PL will have been shot to pieces.
Once they stopped complying with the PL investigation is when things should have come to a head. That action in itself should have led to them being unable to play in the PL until they provided the evidence that they claim to have.
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This
As soon as stop comply with the rules they r in breech n shuddabeen immeduate suspend from all competition run by EFA n their4 UEFA n FIFA also
If they wont relegate these teams for whatever reasons make them start the new season on -43 points. Its up to them then if they make the magic 43 points which is usually enough at the end of the season. Maybe City might even save themselves.
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 12 minutes ago
There isn't going to be any punishment for City now. It would have been handed out by now if that was the case.
The PL as an organisation (so all PL clubs then) won't want any reputational or commercial damage. City being found guilty and punished will do this hugely.
It's all about money. PL owners/chairmen/CEO's will happily write off anything that has gone on before in order to protect future revenues.
The best way to do this would be to not find City guilty, in the event of them being guilty.
Surely in the event of them being found guilty a points deduction for a single season wouldn't really suffice?
At the very least, and being lenient, it should be points deductions over multiple seasons, to go hand in hand with the number of seasons they have been found in which to have broken the rules?
Expulsion would be the most fitting punishment if they were found guilty. They'd have competed largely at the top end of the PL year after year on the back of financial cheating, winning lots of trophies. The integrity of the PL will have been shot to pieces.
Once they stopped complying with the PL investigation is when things should have come to a head. That action in itself should have led to them being unable to play in the PL until they provided the evidence that they claim to have.
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The PL decided to go public with this. Nobody forced them to.
If they don't follow through with anything they will look incredibly weak. City will get punished in some form. I will concede though that they will probably get a more lenient punishment than the deserve though.
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posted on 15/11/23
The hollowest of title victories, would those sides even want them
posted on 15/11/23
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 31 seconds ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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Nope, me either.
posted on 15/11/23
The charges relate to 2009 to 2018, so why does this cover the period after?
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
The hollowest of title victories, would those sides even want them
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Personally no. Winning a title/trophy is about the moment not years later
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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I do. They will definitely get some sort of punishment. It's going to be very difficult for the PL to explain 115 mistakes to the other clubs. There's clearly a strong case against them for the PL to go public and tarnish their own brand like they did.
Will the punishment fit the crime though? Probably not.
posted on 15/11/23
Can they strip Chelsea too so Spurs can end their drought.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 11 minutes ago
The charges relate to 2009 to 2018, so why does this cover the period after?
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Probably won't but it should, as anything they won afterwards was built on foundations laid in 2008.
posted on 15/11/23
https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1724717860256190916?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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I do. They will definitely get some sort of punishment. It's going to be very difficult for the PL to explain 115 mistakes to the other clubs. There's clearly a strong case against them for the PL to go public and tarnish their own brand like they did.
Will the punishment fit the crime though? Probably not.
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Bigger jobs than City will refuse to accept a lenient outcome if proven to have cheated.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan (U1217)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 11 minutes ago
The charges relate to 2009 to 2018, so why does this cover the period after?
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Probably won't but it should, as anything they won afterwards was built on foundations laid in 2008.
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Surely any point losses should cover any period that their cheating allowed them to comply with FFP.
So if they would have fail FFP 2018-2023 without cheating, the punishment should include those seasons.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Simply Red (U22987)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
All fun aside though does anyone really believe anything is going to happen to City? I don’t for a second.
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I do. They will definitely get some sort of punishment. It's going to be very difficult for the PL to explain 115 mistakes to the other clubs. There's clearly a strong case against them for the PL to go public and tarnish their own brand like they did.
Will the punishment fit the crime though? Probably not.
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Bigger jobs than City will refuse to accept a lenient outcome if proven to have cheated.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Clubs,.not jobs.
posted on 15/11/23
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
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Yeah behave, Juve are a mega club, City are Torino with a few quid
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
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Yeah behave, Juve are a mega club, City are Torino with a few quid
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I was trying to be kind.
Of course Juve are the bigger club traditionally although they do have a much reduced stadium capacity these days and they have only won as many European Cups as City have now. The gap is closing as Serie A isn't the league it once was.
City definitely bigger than Torino though.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
Forget fines, relegations and docking points. Just strip the trophies in said period. Let them keep their hollow treble and anything post 2019 for all I care.
Having it made official what they are will be the end of them anyway. Pep will walk away as he's already said he would do if they are found of guilty of anything. That will be the end of City's domination and their fans won't be able to live down the charges for the end of their days.
The PL need to grow a backbone. Italy made an example of Juve who are just as big of a club as City are if not bigger.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah behave, Juve are a mega club, City are Torino with a few quid
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I was trying to be kind.
Of course Juve are the bigger club traditionally although they do have a much reduced stadium capacity these days and they have only won as many European Cups as City have now. The gap is closing as Serie A isn't the league it once was.
City definitely bigger than Torino though.
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R they fook
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
The hollowest of title victories, would those sides even want them
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I don’t think the footballing side of clubs would, players, coaches, fans, but at the end of the day you don’t look at how titles were won in 29 years time.
posted on 15/11/23
Torino were a much bigger club than City were before the oil strike. In fact they are one of Italys most successful clubs to this day. City don't come close.
posted on 15/11/23
ikr
posted on 15/11/23
There isn't going to be any punishment for City now. It would have been handed out by now if that was the case.
The PL as an organisation (so all PL clubs then) won't want any reputational or commercial damage. City being found guilty and punished will do this hugely.
It's all about money. PL owners/chairmen/CEO's will happily write off anything that has gone on before in order to protect future revenues.
The best way to do this would be to not find City guilty, in the event of them being guilty.
Surely in the event of them being found guilty a points deduction for a single season wouldn't really suffice?
At the very least, and being lenient, it should be points deductions over multiple seasons, to go hand in hand with the number of seasons they have been found in which to have broken the rules?
Expulsion would be the most fitting punishment if they were found guilty. They'd have competed largely at the top end of the PL year after year on the back of financial cheating, winning lots of trophies. The integrity of the PL will have been shot to pieces.
Once they stopped complying with the PL investigation is when things should have come to a head. That action in itself should have led to them being unable to play in the PL until they provided the evidence that they claim to have.
posted on 15/11/23
Be churlish!!
posted on 15/11/23
What should happen, is they should be relegated to League 2, but that would be a real punishment, so won't happen.
Relegation would see sponsorship values re negotiated, TV money going through the floor, no UEFA money, and players having to leave on frees as they couldn't honour the players contracts.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 8 minutes ago
There isn't going to be any punishment for City now. It would have been handed out by now if that was the case.
The PL as an organisation (so all PL clubs then) won't want any reputational or commercial damage. City being found guilty and punished will do this hugely.
It's all about money. PL owners/chairmen/CEO's will happily write off anything that has gone on before in order to protect future revenues.
The best way to do this would be to not find City guilty, in the event of them being guilty.
Surely in the event of them being found guilty a points deduction for a single season wouldn't really suffice?
At the very least, and being lenient, it should be points deductions over multiple seasons, to go hand in hand with the number of seasons they have been found in which to have broken the rules?
Expulsion would be the most fitting punishment if they were found guilty. They'd have competed largely at the top end of the PL year after year on the back of financial cheating, winning lots of trophies. The integrity of the PL will have been shot to pieces.
Once they stopped complying with the PL investigation is when things should have come to a head. That action in itself should have led to them being unable to play in the PL until they provided the evidence that they claim to have.
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This
As soon as stop comply with the rules they r in breech n shuddabeen immeduate suspend from all competition run by EFA n their4 UEFA n FIFA also
posted on 15/11/23
If they wont relegate these teams for whatever reasons make them start the new season on -43 points. Its up to them then if they make the magic 43 points which is usually enough at the end of the season. Maybe City might even save themselves.
posted on 15/11/23
comment by Gilbert Napthine (U15867)
posted 12 minutes ago
There isn't going to be any punishment for City now. It would have been handed out by now if that was the case.
The PL as an organisation (so all PL clubs then) won't want any reputational or commercial damage. City being found guilty and punished will do this hugely.
It's all about money. PL owners/chairmen/CEO's will happily write off anything that has gone on before in order to protect future revenues.
The best way to do this would be to not find City guilty, in the event of them being guilty.
Surely in the event of them being found guilty a points deduction for a single season wouldn't really suffice?
At the very least, and being lenient, it should be points deductions over multiple seasons, to go hand in hand with the number of seasons they have been found in which to have broken the rules?
Expulsion would be the most fitting punishment if they were found guilty. They'd have competed largely at the top end of the PL year after year on the back of financial cheating, winning lots of trophies. The integrity of the PL will have been shot to pieces.
Once they stopped complying with the PL investigation is when things should have come to a head. That action in itself should have led to them being unable to play in the PL until they provided the evidence that they claim to have.
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The PL decided to go public with this. Nobody forced them to.
If they don't follow through with anything they will look incredibly weak. City will get punished in some form. I will concede though that they will probably get a more lenient punishment than the deserve though.
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