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Wilders wins Dutch election

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posted on 23/11/23

Tories don't care about immigration as much as they care that people vote for them. They know the only way to stop this level of immigration is to fix the countries where these immigrants are coming from, but there is no agenda to do that.

Instead they just keep people busy with hot air spoofs like Rwanda and aggressive rhetoric about the channel boats which they know they can't stop, but so long as the idiots don't know that and keep voting then who cares?

posted on 23/11/23

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 7 minutes ago
Would any country vote in an ante semitism PM? So why would a country vote in an ante Muslim/Islam PM?

Muslims do seem fair game to be demonised more than any other religious group, without that many taking offence.
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‘ Muslims do seem fair game to be demonised more than any other religious group, without that many taking offence.’

Not a chance Sandy. The level of anti semitism since the Hamas attacks in Britain and the west has been staggering.
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So has the level of Islamophobia. For some reason the media just focus on the rising antisemitism, but Islamophobia has also risen significantly and I'm not hearing much about it.

You probably didn't even know that. Sandy is right.
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He’s not right at all.

Look at the police response in recent weeks. Whenever any issues were raised snout any of the protesters chants, such as ‘from the river to the sea’ or the guy calling for ‘Jihad’, the police response was that there were a number of different interpretations, when we knew exactly the context. The police have tiptoes around these issues snd policed with kid gloves.

By contrast, Jewish schools have had to be closed and Jews advised not to wear anything in public that could identify them as Jews. A ‘Pray for Israel and the Jewish People” event after police warned that participants could be “injured or intimidated”. The police even took down posters of kidnapped Jewish hostages ffs.

Do you think any other monitoring demographic would have been so badly treated by the police as Jews have been in the last six weeks?


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*about
*was cancelled after police warned
*minority demographic
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You're just proving my point. All you know is what's happened on one side, and nothing about the other side. People say all kinds of things about Islam which they couldn't dare say about Jews and nobody bats an eyelid. If you said Judaism was incompatible with western culture, you'd be called an antisemite. But even on this thread you can say that about Islam without issues.

The antisemitism is plastered all over, and that's OK, but I don't see too much on the rising Islamophobia.

You are at their mercy.

posted on 23/11/23

BBC will be deeply upset then. Clearly the Dutch have had enough of seeing there nation become an Islamic stronghold. Europe starting to wake up.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 10 minutes ago
"while saying all the right things about tackling immigration, which they haven't done."

Why have you just selected immigration
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What do you mean? I don't get your question.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 19 seconds ago
BBC will be deeply upset then. Clearly the Dutch have had enough of seeing there nation become an Islamic stronghold. Europe starting to wake up.
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posted on 23/11/23

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 7 minutes ago
Would any country vote in an ante semitism PM? So why would a country vote in an ante Muslim/Islam PM?

Muslims do seem fair game to be demonised more than any other religious group, without that many taking offence.
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‘ Muslims do seem fair game to be demonised more than any other religious group, without that many taking offence.’

Not a chance Sandy. The level of anti semitism since the Hamas attacks in Britain and the west has been staggering.
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So has the level of Islamophobia. For some reason the media just focus on the rising antisemitism, but Islamophobia has also risen significantly and I'm not hearing much about it.

You probably didn't even know that. Sandy is right.
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He’s not right at all.

Look at the police response in recent weeks. Whenever any issues were raised snout any of the protesters chants, such as ‘from the river to the sea’ or the guy calling for ‘Jihad’, the police response was that there were a number of different interpretations, when we knew exactly the context. The police have tiptoes around these issues snd policed with kid gloves.

By contrast, Jewish schools have had to be closed and Jews advised not to wear anything in public that could identify them as Jews. A ‘Pray for Israel and the Jewish People” event after police warned that participants could be “injured or intimidated”. The police even took down posters of kidnapped Jewish hostages ffs.

Do you think any other monitoring demographic would have been so badly treated by the police as Jews have been in the last six weeks?


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*about
*was cancelled after police warned
*minority demographic
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You're just proving my point. All you know is what's happened on one side, and nothing about the other side. People say all kinds of things about Islam which they couldn't dare say about Jews and nobody bats an eyelid. If you said Judaism was incompatible with western culture, you'd be called an antisemite. But even on this thread you can say that about Islam without issues.

The antisemitism is plastered all over, and that's OK, but I don't see too much on the rising Islamophobia.

You are at their mercy.
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‘ People say all kinds of things about Islam which they couldn't dare say about Jews’

I literally just provided examples above which show this isn’t the case at all.

You just keep repeating an assertion. Give me actual examples like I did

posted on 23/11/23

I literally just provided examples above which show this isn’t the case at all
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Exactly, you provided examples of individual cherry picked incidents that suit your opinion. The truth is different. There are even laws against antisemitism and none against Islamophobia. Just because you say something and have a couple examples doesn't mean it's true.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 10 minutes ago
"while saying all the right things about tackling immigration, which they haven't done."

Why have you just selected immigration
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What do you mean? I don't get your question.
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They say the right things about many things...

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 59 seconds ago
I literally just provided examples above which show this isn’t the case at all
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Exactly, you provided examples of individual cherry picked incidents that suit your opinion. The truth is different. There are even laws against antisemitism and none against Islamophobia. Just because you say something and have a couple examples doesn't mean it's true.
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Can you give me an example of people who say all kinds of things about Islam which they wouldn’t about Judaism?

posted on 23/11/23

You just keep repeating an assertion. Give me actual examples like I did
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First of all chanting from the river to the sea cannot be an arrestable offence.

Second if all you didn't provide any examples. You just told some stories, which are probably all bullsheet.

Here is what a real example looks like.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/metropolitan-police-protests-adviser-attiq-malik-chant-protest-london-b1118286.html

posted on 23/11/23

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 59 seconds ago
I literally just provided examples above which show this isn’t the case at all
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Exactly, you provided examples of individual cherry picked incidents that suit your opinion. The truth is different. There are even laws against antisemitism and none against Islamophobia. Just because you say something and have a couple examples doesn't mean it's true.
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Can you give me an example of people who say all kinds of things about Islam which they wouldn’t about Judaism?
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There's some on this thread. Like saying Islam is incompatible with certain cultures. If you say that about Jews you are facked.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 10 minutes ago
"while saying all the right things about tackling immigration, which they haven't done."

Why have you just selected immigration
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What do you mean? I don't get your question.
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They say the right things about many things...
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Oh yeah, I think I get you now. They do say the right things about everything. I focused on immigration as it's the topic at hand here.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 56 minutes ago
BBC will be deeply upset then. Clearly the Dutch have had enough of seeing there nation become an Islamic stronghold. Europe starting to wake up.
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I've confused this guy with Barry a few times.

posted on 23/11/23

Of course Wilders has received funding and support from Pro-Israeli groups.

Surprised?

They love funding islamophobes including Tommy Robinson.

But they're the good guys apparently.

posted on 23/11/23

Shame the oil states don't fund Gaza instead of paying washed up footballers mega money.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 23/11/23

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 45 seconds ago
Shame the oil states don't fund Gaza instead of paying washed up footballers mega money.
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Iran and Lebanon fund Hamas alright.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Shame the oil states don't fund Gaza instead of paying washed up footballers mega money.
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Yes, it is a shame.

Although, anything they build would just be destroyed by Israel anyway, wouldn't it?

posted on 23/11/23

The power that the oil states posses is more than a match for Israel.
In arm's and money.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 2 minutes ago
Of course Wilders has received funding and support from Pro-Israeli groups.

Surprised?

They love funding islamophobes including Tommy Robinson.

But they're the good guys apparently.
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He is not funded by anybody.

EuROpe iS wAkiNg uP!!!

posted on 23/11/23

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 2 minutes ago
The power that the oil states posses is more than a match for Israel.
In arm's and money.
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Not of Israel are backed by US, UK etc.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by RED666……🚽🚽 3-2 Liverpool (U6562)
posted 25 seconds ago
I’d love Wilders to become PM it would certainly make other countries to start thinking!
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I wouldn't get too excited. There is no dark age coming. It's just a phase and it's probably not the last time it will happen.

The Tories and right wing are already almost certain out the door in England, and after many years they have done fack all in regards to immigration which has gone up, or the culture war, instead choosing to loot and damage the country while saying all the right things about tackling immigration, which they haven't done.

And soon the rest of Europe will follow.

These right wing swings have happened in the past and will happen again. It's not some watershed event.
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“Excited”? don’t be such a drama Queen!
There needs to be a shake up! Will it happen doubt it but it could get interesting!

posted on 23/11/23

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Shame the oil states don't fund Gaza instead of paying washed up footballers mega money.
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Yes, it is a shame.

Although, anything they build would just be destroyed by Israel anyway, wouldn't it?
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They're not allowed to fund Gaza without Israel's permission and will not try it if they know what's good for them.

If they try it they'll get a few thousand missiles up their kister.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by RED666……🚽🚽 3-2 Liverpool (U6562)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by RED666……🚽🚽 3-2 Liverpool (U6562)
posted 25 seconds ago
I’d love Wilders to become PM it would certainly make other countries to start thinking!
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I wouldn't get too excited. There is no dark age coming. It's just a phase and it's probably not the last time it will happen.

The Tories and right wing are already almost certain out the door in England, and after many years they have done fack all in regards to immigration which has gone up, or the culture war, instead choosing to loot and damage the country while saying all the right things about tackling immigration, which they haven't done.

And soon the rest of Europe will follow.

These right wing swings have happened in the past and will happen again. It's not some watershed event.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Excited”? don’t be such a drama Queen!
There needs to be a shake up! Will it happen doubt it but it could get interesting!
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There needs to be a shake up, but not the kind you have in mind.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 3 minutes ago
Shame the oil states don't fund Gaza instead of paying washed up footballers mega money.
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Yes, it is a shame.

Although, anything they build would just be destroyed by Israel anyway, wouldn't it?
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They're not allowed to fund Gaza without Israel's permission and will not try it if they know what's good for them.

If they try it they'll get a few thousand missiles up their kister.
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They're not even allowed to build anything without Israeli permission, which they usually don't get.

But people will carry on as if this is a level playing field.

posted on 23/11/23

comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by RED666……🚽🚽 3-2 Liverpool (U6562)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mamba - Come at the King, you best not miss (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by RED666……🚽🚽 3-2 Liverpool (U6562)
posted 25 seconds ago
I’d love Wilders to become PM it would certainly make other countries to start thinking!
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I wouldn't get too excited. There is no dark age coming. It's just a phase and it's probably not the last time it will happen.

The Tories and right wing are already almost certain out the door in England, and after many years they have done fack all in regards to immigration which has gone up, or the culture war, instead choosing to loot and damage the country while saying all the right things about tackling immigration, which they haven't done.

And soon the rest of Europe will follow.

These right wing swings have happened in the past and will happen again. It's not some watershed event.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Excited”? don’t be such a drama Queen!
There needs to be a shake up! Will it happen doubt it but it could get interesting!
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There needs to be a shake up, but not the kind you have in mind.
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I “have in mind”? So you agree there has to be “a shakeup” but what do I “have in mind”?

So! Is this where you make stuff up?

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