comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Sakes
Now Rangers are insisting that Collum never sign referees any of their matches. (Allegedly)
Imagine trying to select officials based on them having a different opinion to you because they interpreted something a different way and in which case would never have mattered.
How utterly embarrassing
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Tbf I think there's plenty of Celtic fans would rather Collum never referee one of their games again either. Pash ref who makes it about himself "making the big decisions" all too often.
I don’t doubt that but we can’t go around dictating what refs we want and don’t want for goodness sake
comment by lauders (U9757)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about 4 hours ago
Sakes
Now Rangers are insisting that Collum never sign referees any of their matches. (Allegedly)
Imagine trying to select officials based on them having a different opinion to you because they interpreted something a different way and in which case would never have mattered.
How utterly embarrassing
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Nah it’s cause he’s a known bograt.
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Go away you
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Sakes
Now Rangers are insisting that Collum never sign referees any of their matches. (Allegedly)
Imagine trying to select officials based on them having a different opinion to you because they interpreted something a different way and in which case would never have mattered.
How utterly embarrassing
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Tbf I think there's plenty of Celtic fans would rather Collum never referee one of their games again either. Pash ref who makes it about himself "making the big decisions" all too often.
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Got to pash with the cauk you have though.
"overriding consensus" wtf even is that? Apparently the SFA disagree with that interpretation? Doubt they will continue with statement tennis, however?
That said I think all fans will be happy to go down the transparency route. The SFA won't, however.
To be honest I dont think it was a pen anyway.
His hand was by his side and not in an unnatural position.
This idea that if the ball touches your hand its a pen needs to change.
https://x.com/Iwata_beadored/status/1742670154008268867?s=20
Some people have way too much time on their hands.
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 42 minutes ago
https://x.com/Iwata_beadored/status/1742670154008268867?s=20
Some people have way too much time on their hands.
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I enjoyed the comment that rangers were ‘going for the juggler’.
As if stiffing the face painter wasn’t enough…
I enjoyed the comment that rangers were ‘going for the juggler’.
—-
Fans of Insane Clown Posse shiitting themselves
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
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see a former ref say that "“Offside is irrelevant. VAR can only check for an offside if there is a consequence -ie a goal. There wasn’t. "
“Willie Collum is there to check whether there was a hand ball or not.
“The telling situation is that the game was restarted with a goal kick – not an indirect free kick, which would have been the case if the offside was awarded.”
dont know if thats correct or not?
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
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see a former ref say that "“Offside is irrelevant. VAR can only check for an offside if there is a consequence -ie a goal. There wasn’t. "
“Willie Collum is there to check whether there was a hand ball or not.
“The telling situation is that the game was restarted with a goal kick – not an indirect free kick, which would have been the case if the offside was awarded.”
dont know if thats correct or not?
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Afraid it isn't.
Once penalty awarded they then check the APP.
And offside would have been given.
Rangers crying about the correct decision being made is pretty stupid to be honest but they wont be told.
comment by Timmy (U14278)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
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see a former ref say that "“Offside is irrelevant. VAR can only check for an offside if there is a consequence -ie a goal. There wasn’t. "
“Willie Collum is there to check whether there was a hand ball or not.
“The telling situation is that the game was restarted with a goal kick – not an indirect free kick, which would have been the case if the offside was awarded.”
dont know if thats correct or not?
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Afraid it isn't.
Once penalty awarded they then check the APP.
And offside would have been given.
Rangers crying about the correct decision being made is pretty stupid to be honest but they wont be told.
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where are you sourcing this .... is this from a place of info, another qualified or respected person in the field or is it from the mind of Timmy?
var would call back the offside ffs there is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 54 seconds ago
var would call back the offside ffsthere is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
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The club will be delighted the stupid fatsos are falling for this nonsense. Saves them being criticized. Or eaten.
nothing on the turnbull one, which was onside, and a penalty given some of the hands on penalties rangers have been awarded lately.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 20 seconds ago
nothing on the turnbull one, which was onside, and a penalty given some of the hands on penalties rangers have been awarded lately.
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Cathllolic cabal mate. They permeate every layer of Scottish society nowadays.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
var would call back the offside ffsthere is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
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the only way we can prove it is if the audio is released.... rangers have heard it and say that there was no communication about offside in the incident.
Only way that can be proven to be correct or incorrect would be if they are made public.
i don't think he has ever claimed it was offside has he?
the lines were shown later on but i don't think the claim was ever that it wasn't given, he simply didn't think it was a handball.
like goldsons save
or on the very first var game when the hearts player had a handball.
i'd have wanted a penalty if it was against us, just like the goldson one and just like the hearts one.
the amount of unpunished handballs goldson has had and rangers having the bottle to cry conspiracy for one decision they wouldn't have got a penalty for is mental.
Collum didn’t think it merited a penalty for handball. That should have been the end of it. By half time, the BBC knew that there was also offside as well that even if he had thought it was a penalty, then it wouldn’t have been awarded for the offside in the build up. They discussed it at half time on the radio apparently, but was also on their live feed of the game. Don’t know why that was shown or discussed because it wasn’t needed. I think it was handball, but it wouldn’t have mattered as the offside negates that.
I find it odd that rangers haven’t decided to question more the penalty that Kilmarnock were awarded, as that was more contentious and ended in rangers genuinely losing something from that award. I’m sure they’ve got their reasons for that.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 14 minutes ago
i don't think he has ever claimed it was offside has he?
the lines were shown later on but i don't think the claim was ever that it wasn't given, he simply didn't think it was a handball.
like goldsons save
or on the very first var game when the hearts player had a handball.
i'd have wanted a penalty if it was against us, just like the goldson one and just like the hearts one.
the amount of unpunished handballs goldson has had and rangers having the bottle to cry conspiracy for one decision they wouldn't have got a penalty for is mental.
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did they not confirm half way through the 2nd half that it was given as offside?
thats the whole debate going on. VAR said no penalty , ref said no penalty and a goal kick awarded.
after everyone said it was a stone waller at half time, we were informed that it was offside decision is why it wasnt awarded. despite no offside flag, no offside signal by the ref and no free kick for offside given, but the refs said after the game the reason it was given was offside, rangers have now listened to the audio of the VAR and have said there was no communication of offisde and that the decision was no penalty.
its a case off the refs changing their reasons for decisions after they have made it to paint them in a better light, to cover up mistakes and the such.
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 24 minutes ago
nothing on the turnbull one, which was onside, and a penalty given some of the hands on penalties rangers have been awarded lately.
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what do you mean nothing ??
it was most likely looked at by VAR and both the ref and VAR decided it wasnt a foul.
I don’t think anyone has claimed the reason for the penalty not being awarded was for offside. That looks more like and interpretation of the offside being shown.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
var would call back the offside ffsthere is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
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the only way we can prove it is if the audio is released.... rangers have heard it and say that there was no communication about offside in the incident.
Only way that can be proven to be correct or incorrect would be if they are made public.
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They’ve confirmed there was no offside call made so no idea what point you’re trying to make. Audio would just confirm it.
Collum and the VAR team simply didn’t believe it was a deliberate handball and they missed that it last came off Johnson. That’s all there is to it.
If they had understandably given a penalty then the passage of play would have been studied and an offside given. Penalty rescinded.
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Collum didn’t think it merited a penalty for handball. That should have been the end of it. By half time, the BBC knew that there was also offside as well that even if he had thought it was a penalty, then it wouldn’t have been awarded for the offside in the build up. They discussed it at half time on the radio apparently, but was also on their live feed of the game. Don’t know why that was shown or discussed because it wasn’t needed. I think it was handball, but it wouldn’t have mattered as the offside negates that.
I find it odd that rangers haven’t decided to question more the penalty that Kilmarnock were awarded, as that was more contentious and ended in rangers genuinely losing something from that award. I’m sure they’ve got their reasons for that.
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Don’t know why that was shown or discussed because it wasn’t needed. I think it was handball, but it wouldn’t have mattered as the offside negates that.
does it ?? there was a ref saying that they shouldnt have been able to use VAR to decide if it was offside in this incident?
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posted on 4/1/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Sakes
Now Rangers are insisting that Collum never sign referees any of their matches. (Allegedly)
Imagine trying to select officials based on them having a different opinion to you because they interpreted something a different way and in which case would never have mattered.
How utterly embarrassing
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Tbf I think there's plenty of Celtic fans would rather Collum never referee one of their games again either. Pash ref who makes it about himself "making the big decisions" all too often.
posted on 4/1/24
I don’t doubt that but we can’t go around dictating what refs we want and don’t want for goodness sake
posted on 4/1/24
comment by lauders (U9757)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about 4 hours ago
Sakes
Now Rangers are insisting that Collum never sign referees any of their matches. (Allegedly)
Imagine trying to select officials based on them having a different opinion to you because they interpreted something a different way and in which case would never have mattered.
How utterly embarrassing
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Nah it’s cause he’s a known bograt.
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Go away you
posted on 4/1/24
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 46 minutes ago
Sakes
Now Rangers are insisting that Collum never sign referees any of their matches. (Allegedly)
Imagine trying to select officials based on them having a different opinion to you because they interpreted something a different way and in which case would never have mattered.
How utterly embarrassing
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tbf I think there's plenty of Celtic fans would rather Collum never referee one of their games again either. Pash ref who makes it about himself "making the big decisions" all too often.
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Got to pash with the cauk you have though.
"overriding consensus" wtf even is that? Apparently the SFA disagree with that interpretation? Doubt they will continue with statement tennis, however?
That said I think all fans will be happy to go down the transparency route. The SFA won't, however.
posted on 4/1/24
To be honest I dont think it was a pen anyway.
His hand was by his side and not in an unnatural position.
This idea that if the ball touches your hand its a pen needs to change.
posted on 4/1/24
https://x.com/Iwata_beadored/status/1742670154008268867?s=20
Some people have way too much time on their hands.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 42 minutes ago
https://x.com/Iwata_beadored/status/1742670154008268867?s=20
Some people have way too much time on their hands.
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I enjoyed the comment that rangers were ‘going for the juggler’.
As if stiffing the face painter wasn’t enough…
posted on 4/1/24
I enjoyed the comment that rangers were ‘going for the juggler’.
—-
Fans of Insane Clown Posse shiitting themselves
posted on 4/1/24
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
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see a former ref say that "“Offside is irrelevant. VAR can only check for an offside if there is a consequence -ie a goal. There wasn’t. "
“Willie Collum is there to check whether there was a hand ball or not.
“The telling situation is that the game was restarted with a goal kick – not an indirect free kick, which would have been the case if the offside was awarded.”
dont know if thats correct or not?
posted on 4/1/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
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see a former ref say that "“Offside is irrelevant. VAR can only check for an offside if there is a consequence -ie a goal. There wasn’t. "
“Willie Collum is there to check whether there was a hand ball or not.
“The telling situation is that the game was restarted with a goal kick – not an indirect free kick, which would have been the case if the offside was awarded.”
dont know if thats correct or not?
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Afraid it isn't.
Once penalty awarded they then check the APP.
And offside would have been given.
Rangers crying about the correct decision being made is pretty stupid to be honest but they wont be told.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by Timmy (U14278)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
they have hit peak crackpot this week btw.
collum is a horrific ref, he always has been, he's given terrible decisions for every team, including a penalty he heard and allowing goldson to play in goals while on VAR.
rangers fans seem to want the penalty to have been given which is fine,but they are ignoring that the resulting penalty would have been wrong given sima was offside.
they want that not to count, unlucky, it does.
eat a dhick.
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see a former ref say that "“Offside is irrelevant. VAR can only check for an offside if there is a consequence -ie a goal. There wasn’t. "
“Willie Collum is there to check whether there was a hand ball or not.
“The telling situation is that the game was restarted with a goal kick – not an indirect free kick, which would have been the case if the offside was awarded.”
dont know if thats correct or not?
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Afraid it isn't.
Once penalty awarded they then check the APP.
And offside would have been given.
Rangers crying about the correct decision being made is pretty stupid to be honest but they wont be told.
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where are you sourcing this .... is this from a place of info, another qualified or respected person in the field or is it from the mind of Timmy?
posted on 4/1/24
var would call back the offside ffs there is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 54 seconds ago
var would call back the offside ffsthere is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
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The club will be delighted the stupid fatsos are falling for this nonsense. Saves them being criticized. Or eaten.
posted on 4/1/24
nothing on the turnbull one, which was onside, and a penalty given some of the hands on penalties rangers have been awarded lately.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 20 seconds ago
nothing on the turnbull one, which was onside, and a penalty given some of the hands on penalties rangers have been awarded lately.
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Cathllolic cabal mate. They permeate every layer of Scottish society nowadays.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
var would call back the offside ffsthere is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
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the only way we can prove it is if the audio is released.... rangers have heard it and say that there was no communication about offside in the incident.
Only way that can be proven to be correct or incorrect would be if they are made public.
posted on 4/1/24
i don't think he has ever claimed it was offside has he?
the lines were shown later on but i don't think the claim was ever that it wasn't given, he simply didn't think it was a handball.
like goldsons save
or on the very first var game when the hearts player had a handball.
i'd have wanted a penalty if it was against us, just like the goldson one and just like the hearts one.
the amount of unpunished handballs goldson has had and rangers having the bottle to cry conspiracy for one decision they wouldn't have got a penalty for is mental.
posted on 4/1/24
Collum didn’t think it merited a penalty for handball. That should have been the end of it. By half time, the BBC knew that there was also offside as well that even if he had thought it was a penalty, then it wouldn’t have been awarded for the offside in the build up. They discussed it at half time on the radio apparently, but was also on their live feed of the game. Don’t know why that was shown or discussed because it wasn’t needed. I think it was handball, but it wouldn’t have mattered as the offside negates that.
I find it odd that rangers haven’t decided to question more the penalty that Kilmarnock were awarded, as that was more contentious and ended in rangers genuinely losing something from that award. I’m sure they’ve got their reasons for that.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 14 minutes ago
i don't think he has ever claimed it was offside has he?
the lines were shown later on but i don't think the claim was ever that it wasn't given, he simply didn't think it was a handball.
like goldsons save
or on the very first var game when the hearts player had a handball.
i'd have wanted a penalty if it was against us, just like the goldson one and just like the hearts one.
the amount of unpunished handballs goldson has had and rangers having the bottle to cry conspiracy for one decision they wouldn't have got a penalty for is mental.
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did they not confirm half way through the 2nd half that it was given as offside?
thats the whole debate going on. VAR said no penalty , ref said no penalty and a goal kick awarded.
after everyone said it was a stone waller at half time, we were informed that it was offside decision is why it wasnt awarded. despite no offside flag, no offside signal by the ref and no free kick for offside given, but the refs said after the game the reason it was given was offside, rangers have now listened to the audio of the VAR and have said there was no communication of offisde and that the decision was no penalty.
its a case off the refs changing their reasons for decisions after they have made it to paint them in a better light, to cover up mistakes and the such.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 24 minutes ago
nothing on the turnbull one, which was onside, and a penalty given some of the hands on penalties rangers have been awarded lately.
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what do you mean nothing ??
it was most likely looked at by VAR and both the ref and VAR decided it wasnt a foul.
posted on 4/1/24
I don’t think anyone has claimed the reason for the penalty not being awarded was for offside. That looks more like and interpretation of the offside being shown.
posted on 4/1/24
*an interpretation
posted on 4/1/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
var would call back the offside ffsthere is no way they would allow a penalty to be awarded to a player who had been standing offside in the passage of play.
seeing a lot of people on twitter raging about lies, saying collum has lied and its a disgrace.
nobody can seem to point to where he lied though, so those calling him a liar are actually lying about him.
raging.
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the only way we can prove it is if the audio is released.... rangers have heard it and say that there was no communication about offside in the incident.
Only way that can be proven to be correct or incorrect would be if they are made public.
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They’ve confirmed there was no offside call made so no idea what point you’re trying to make. Audio would just confirm it.
Collum and the VAR team simply didn’t believe it was a deliberate handball and they missed that it last came off Johnson. That’s all there is to it.
If they had understandably given a penalty then the passage of play would have been studied and an offside given. Penalty rescinded.
posted on 4/1/24
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
Collum didn’t think it merited a penalty for handball. That should have been the end of it. By half time, the BBC knew that there was also offside as well that even if he had thought it was a penalty, then it wouldn’t have been awarded for the offside in the build up. They discussed it at half time on the radio apparently, but was also on their live feed of the game. Don’t know why that was shown or discussed because it wasn’t needed. I think it was handball, but it wouldn’t have mattered as the offside negates that.
I find it odd that rangers haven’t decided to question more the penalty that Kilmarnock were awarded, as that was more contentious and ended in rangers genuinely losing something from that award. I’m sure they’ve got their reasons for that.
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Don’t know why that was shown or discussed because it wasn’t needed. I think it was handball, but it wouldn’t have mattered as the offside negates that.
does it ?? there was a ref saying that they shouldnt have been able to use VAR to decide if it was offside in this incident?
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