We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?

Incidentally I'm not defending him, he got what he deserved.
But people anxiously scanning for more details, more names are doing it for titillation, not justice being served.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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Know *

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.
-------------it seems to be to the Sony of Québec ---------------------------------------------------------

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.
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it seems to be to the Sony of Québec
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No, I think it is what happened on the island that is the problem. Do you have evidence that noncing was going on on Branson's island? If not, then your comparison is irrelevant as his island was used for a different purpose.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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There was a murder in Edinburgh the other day. Not entirely sure why it didn't get the same coverage as the death of Diana. Also my local Sunday league team won at the weekend. No mention of it by anyone on here.

comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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There was a murder in Edinburgh the other day. Not entirely sure why it didn't get the same coverage as the death of Diana. Also my local Sunday league team won at the weekend. No mention of it by anyone on here.
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The West.Yorkshire case was worse and close to home.
But no glamour involved.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.
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it seems to be to the Sony of Québec
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No, I think it is what happened on the island that is the problem. Do you have evidence that noncing was going on on Branson's island? If not, then your comparison is irrelevant as his island was used for a different purpose.
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No I don't think there was anything untoward.
You haven't grasped that my comparison was a riposte to son of Québec that surely business would be in New York.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
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There was a murder in Edinburgh the other day. Not entirely sure why it didn't get the same coverage as the death of Diana. Also my local Sunday league team won at the weekend. No mention of it by anyone on here.
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The West.Yorkshire case was worse and close to home.
But no glamour involved.
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This one in Edinburgh was a murderous shooting. Far worse than Diana's routine car crash. Not getting the coverage though.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.
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it seems to be to the Sony of Québec
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No, I think it is what happened on the island that is the problem. Do you have evidence that noncing was going on on Branson's island? If not, then your comparison is irrelevant as his island was used for a different purpose.
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No I don't think there was anything untoward.
You haven't grasped that my comparison was a riposte to son of Québec that surely business would be in New York.
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I don't think you have grasped the significance of Epstein and his island.

Using the logic in your comparison; if Gary Glitter set up a child minding service from his house and invited round Prince Andrew for a 'meeting', you would exonerate Prince Andrew from any wrongdoing purely on the basis that other child minders have met with people at their houses.

There are loads of camp sites all around the world. There is one just along the road from me. I see no reason why we should exonerate hitler just cos he set up his own one. I imagine most of the people who stayed there were just on holiday like the rest of people around the world who stay at camps. Pure gossip.

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 4 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Gafter Pranky (U22336)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Glenn Maxwell. Legend. Hero. Icon. (U22716)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does anyone really care. None of us know the people who will be on the list, it's just gossip.

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A huge number of people on the list are actors, politicians and various celebs. They will be names so will be more than just gossip.
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Potentially Ex US President, member of the royal family
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Still gossip, a list of names is meaningless.
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Always kind of found you a moron, this confirms it
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So has the list titivated your superior intellect. Which were the best bits?
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Amazing you think high profile politicians, royalty, high NET worth people in business and celebrities associating with (at the very least) a convicted nonce is just gossip.

For me this proves what's wrong with the world we live in. If you've got money, power and contacts it doesn't matter if you're a convicted paedophile. Impunity for the rich whilst the rest of us follow the law & pay our dues.
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It is just gossip, unless there are accusations against specific people. You can't just label everyone that visited his island a peeeado. That's not how it works.

comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
There are loads of camp sites all around the world. There is one just along the road from me. I see no reason why we should exonerate hitler just cos he set up his own one. I imagine most of the people who stayed there were just on holiday like the rest of people around the world who stay at camps. Pure gossip.
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Not one of your best Barry

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it seems to be to the Sony of Québec
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No, I think it is what happened on the island that is the problem. Do you have evidence that noncing was going on on Branson's island? If not, then your comparison is irrelevant as his island was used for a different purpose.
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No I don't think there was anything untoward.
You haven't grasped that my comparison was a riposte to son of Québec that surely business would be in New York.
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I don't think you have grasped the significance of Epstein and his island.

Using the logic in your comparison; if Gary Glitter set up a child minding service from his house and invited round Prince Andrew for a 'meeting', you would exonerate Prince Andrew from any wrongdoing purely on the basis that other child minders have met with people at their houses.
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Is this Gary Glitter the one before or after we knew of his nefarious deeds.

It's Gary Glitter, the babysitter

So much mud thrown already there will be none left to stick to anyone.

I hope we get a well researched documentary pretty quickly rather than hear from the usual crackpots on social media that put 2 and 2 together to come up with 5.

comment by HB Maybe Beale wasn't the mastermind (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
So much mud thrown already there will be none left to stick to anyone.

I hope we get a well researched documentary pretty quickly rather than hear from the usual crackpots on social media that put 2 and 2 together to come up with 5.
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We might get both.

Even the most extensively researched documentary wouldn't shut the crackpots up.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it seems to be to the Sony of Québec
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No, I think it is what happened on the island that is the problem. Do you have evidence that noncing was going on on Branson's island? If not, then your comparison is irrelevant as his island was used for a different purpose.
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No I don't think there was anything untoward.
You haven't grasped that my comparison was a riposte to son of Québec that surely business would be in New York.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't think you have grasped the significance of Epstein and his island.

Using the logic in your comparison; if Gary Glitter set up a child minding service from his house and invited round Prince Andrew for a 'meeting', you would exonerate Prince Andrew from any wrongdoing purely on the basis that other child minders have met with people at their houses.
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Is this Gary Glitter the one before or after we knew of his nefarious deeds.
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So if it was before public knowledge of Gary Glitter, you would exonerate Prince Andrew of any wrongdoing regardless of whether it was going on at the time of him visiting?

Pretty damming allegations on ITV news against Prince Andrew

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have recently had our own paedophile case in West Yorkshire, with many girls aged maybe 8,9 or ten.
It doesn't have to be the rich and famous involved.
I don't no now but Branson used to have business meetings on his island, presumably to give them a little holiday in the hope of getting better deals.
When did Epstein become notorious?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't think it's the island itself that's the problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
it seems to be to the Sony of Québec
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No, I think it is what happened on the island that is the problem. Do you have evidence that noncing was going on on Branson's island? If not, then your comparison is irrelevant as his island was used for a different purpose.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I don't think there was anything untoward.
You haven't grasped that my comparison was a riposte to son of Québec that surely business would be in New York.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't think you have grasped the significance of Epstein and his island.

Using the logic in your comparison; if Gary Glitter set up a child minding service from his house and invited round Prince Andrew for a 'meeting', you would exonerate Prince Andrew from any wrongdoing purely on the basis that other child minders have met with people at their houses.
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Is this Gary Glitter the one before or after we knew of his nefarious deeds.
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So if it was before public knowledge of Gary Glitter, you would exonerate Prince Andrew of any wrongdoing regardless of whether it was going on at the time of him visiting?
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If Prince Andrew knew nothing about it, just that he was a pop star, then of course he has done nothing wrong.
Do you think he had?

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
There are loads of camp sites all around the world. There is one just along the road from me. I see no reason why we should exonerate hitler just cos he set up his own one. I imagine most of the people who stayed there were just on holiday like the rest of people around the world who stay at camps. Pure gossip.
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Not one of your best Barry
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All of these things to end with either Jimmy Savile or Hitler. Someone squeezed Jimmy Savile in (no pun intended) so thought I'd complete the set.

comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
There are loads of camp sites all around the world. There is one just along the road from me. I see no reason why we should exonerate hitler just cos he set up his own one. I imagine most of the people who stayed there were just on holiday like the rest of people around the world who stay at camps. Pure gossip.
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Not one of your best Barry
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All of these things to end with either Jimmy Savile or Hitler. Someone squeezed Jimmy Savile in (no pun intended) so thought I'd complete the set.
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Fair enough. You know I'm a fan anyway.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
There are loads of camp sites all around the world. There is one just along the road from me. I see no reason why we should exonerate hitler just cos he set up his own one. I imagine most of the people who stayed there were just on holiday like the rest of people around the world who stay at camps. Pure gossip.
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Not one of your best Barry
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All of these things to end with either Jimmy Savile or Hitler. Someone squeezed Jimmy Savile in (no pun intended) so thought I'd complete the set.
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Fair enough. You know I'm a fan anyway.
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Of saville?

comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by Frank van Eijs (U1734)
posted 12 minutes ago
There are loads of camp sites all around the world. There is one just along the road from me. I see no reason why we should exonerate hitler just cos he set up his own one. I imagine most of the people who stayed there were just on holiday like the rest of people around the world who stay at camps. Pure gossip.
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Not one of your best Barry
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All of these things to end with either Jimmy Savile or Hitler. Someone squeezed Jimmy Savile in (no pun intended) so thought I'd complete the set.
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Fair enough. You know I'm a fan anyway.
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Of saville?

Only Savile oranges, toast and marm yum