comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 28 seconds ago
Yeah don’t see Newcastle going for him, doesn’t really fit their profile.
Inter Miami should take him and let him manage the Barca boys.
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Xavi is struggling at Barcelona. They should appoint Mourinho, bringing him home to the club where his career as a coach began. The fans would love it.
Russian
Great idea, let him bring some steel into the team and bring in Ramos and Pepe.
Chelsea fans clamouring for him is great fun
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 48 minutes ago
might be the right time for him to think about moving into international football which I think will suit him more
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My god, imagine inflicting Mourinho upon a World Cup.
Because you just know it wouldn't be a cheerable minnow like Zambia or Cambodia to glory.
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
A classic case of a manager that is hell bent on not moving with times.
You can call this generation of players all you want and think they are soft, you still have to sing to their drum if you want to be successful. Mourinho the sort of manager can only succeed with mentality likes of Terry, Drogba and Lampard. Those days are long gone.
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Think there’s still a couple of managers that can still do that and not sing to the drum of the players, they’re very highly respected as coaches with more recent track records of success though.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 49 minutes ago
Hasn't really achieved anything of note since the PL title during his second Chelsea stint.
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He got roma into back to back european cup finals.
That is remarkable.
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Nice one, Nick!
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 40 minutes ago
Should be forced to manage Forest as part of their punishment
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Fack me, what's their crime? Genocide?
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 10 minutes ago
Saka
His Real side were pretty entertaining weren't they? Think he got the highest scoring side in a La Liga season, while Pep’s Barca were around too.
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Possibly, although back then the gulf in class between Barca and Madrid vs the rest was absolutely massive. Happy to be wrong though, I only really saw them in big games where they'd be fairly Mourinho-esque.
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comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
His achievements with Porto were amazing and you can excuse any style in that scenario due to the budget of the club (at least vs top CL sides) but beyond that he soured football even when winning.
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Nah, his first Chelsea team were immense. Scared me every time we played them and played some nice football.
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Can't agree with that. His Chelsea side were usually awful to watch, revolutionary for a winning Prem side but dreadful to watch. They won a few games 4-0 but beyond that it was boring football that relied on the dark arts and odd moments of brilliance from a few very talented forwards.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 28 seconds ago
Yeah don’t see Newcastle going for him, doesn’t really fit their profile.
Inter Miami should take him and let him manage the Barca boys.
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Xavi is struggling at Barcelona. They should appoint Mourinho, bringing him home to the club where his career as a coach began. The fans would love it.
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Given some of their player recruitment it wouldn't surprise me if they went for a once successful past it manager. Plus with how they are clearly so off the tempo with Real Madrid this season they must be feeling a bit desperate to close that gap.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
Given some of their player recruitment it wouldn't surprise me if they went for a once successful past it manager. Plus with how they are clearly so off the tempo with Real Madrid this season they must be feeling a bit desperate to close that gap.
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I reckon they'd sooner hire the ghost of Franco than Mourinho.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 37 minutes ago
I doubt Newcastle would go for Mourinho. The reason to get him would be running after a big name (and he still is a big name) to bring the project some glamour. But everything Newcastle's new ownership has done so far has been smarter than that. They have bought wisely and for the long-term construction of a good football team. They haven't chased star players on their way down, but very talented players before their prime years. Why would they do the opposite in their choice of coach? Particularly when Mourinho's style of football doesn't fit the principles the club is currently following.
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You're right. If all goes to plan for them then they wouldn't need or want mourinho. This season though is probably the first under their ownership that hasn't gone to plan. If they become impatient then I can see them turning to him.
Reckon he gets the Brazil gig
He's simply a defensive, stop the other team, manager, that now cannot cope in the modern game.
His tactics worked in the past because attacking teams were nowhere near as fluid as they are now. So attacking teams just played against his brick wall, nowadays, decent attacking teams can pull that brick wall apart and he doesn't really have an answer to it.
He's also a manager who heavily benefitted from manipulating and bullying referees into giving his team favourable decisions. If there's one positive of VAR, it is much harder to do this now.
He's not a terrible manager, just the time were his "skills" could flourish are long gone.
Saka
Think you’re being a bit harsh about Jose’s Chelsea, they were a machine and devastating on the break. Yes they could be nasty when they needed to but they also had some incredible players both defensively and offensively. And it wasn’t just in the PL, they had some legendary games in the CL, especially their games with Barca.
Jose is obviously the pantomime villain (which he’s brilliant at) but people forget at times his Chelsea, Real and Inter sides were great to watch.
comment by EDDIEVH (U8193)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's simply a defensive, stop the other team, manager, that now cannot cope in the modern game.
His tactics worked in the past because attacking teams were nowhere near as fluid as they are now. So attacking teams just played against his brick wall, nowadays, decent attacking teams can pull that brick wall apart and he doesn't really have an answer to it.
He's also a manager who heavily benefitted from manipulating and bullying referees into giving his team favourable decisions. If there's one positive of VAR, it is much harder to do this now.
He's not a terrible manager, just the time were his "skills" could flourish are long gone.
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Think also the pressing most top sides down do from the front is far more cohesive and effective than it was during Mourinho's prime years. Sides are much better at stopping long ball counters before they can start. Defenders no longer have time to get their heads up and hoof to a decent area because they're instantly under pressure.
Seriously blotted his copy book over the Eva Canario saga...we had an absolute gem in her, & our injuries were at a minimum under her tenure
Look at us now...we permanently have an injury list that would have a shot at top 4 on their own these days
He's also not kept up to date....that brand of football went out with the fackin ark, & his special status has long left the station
Back in the day the Chelsea sides of 04-06 were unplayable 15 goals conceded in one & only dropping one game for one season...a 1-0 loss to City via a penalty
Ironically scored by a player we then bought...Roman's money helped of course..but boy did we buy well
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 4 minutes ago
Saka
Think you’re being a bit harsh about Jose’s Chelsea, they were a machine and devastating on the break. Yes they could be nasty when they needed to but they also had some incredible players both defensively and offensively. And it wasn’t just in the PL, they had some legendary games in the CL, especially their games with Barca.
Jose is obviously the pantomime villain (which he’s brilliant at) but people forget at times his Chelsea, Real and Inter sides were great to watch.
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Each to their own, fair enough if you enjoyed watching them
I agree they had brilliant moments and some brilliant players but to me the main thing was dreadful, ultra defensive football which then relied on individual moments of brilliance (Drogba, Robben Lampard etc) while the rest of the side barely crossed the half way line.
It worked and his side's acheived great things. Not so much Chelsea as they were out spending the competition by so much but Porto and briefly Inter you can't argue he achieved incredible results regardless of style.
He's actually supposed to one the nicest blokes away from football so he must have a split personality or something as he is the most horrible khant in the game.
I hated pretty much all of his tenure when was our manager and did not want him in the first place and his tactics, football and real low stuff he does is not welcome.
He is finished at the top level. I his modos operando is give me money and players and 1 season I will win something and again second season, third season I will throw my toys out and have tantrams, belittle the players and get sacked..... nice pay comes with it.
He's done it everywhere he's been.....boring boring.... jog on Jose jog on.
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 minutes ago
Seriously blotted his copy book over the Eva Canario saga...we had an absolute gem in her, & our injuries were at a minimum under her tenure
Look at us now...we permanently have an injury list that would have a shot at top 4 on their own these days
He's also not kept up to date....that brand of football went out with the fackin ark, & his special status has long left the station
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Smoking hot as well
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 minutes ago
Seriously blotted his copy book over the Eva Canario saga...we had an absolute gem in her, & our injuries were at a minimum under her tenure
Look at us now...we permanently have an injury list that would have a shot at top 4 on their own these days
He's also not kept up to date....that brand of football went out with the fackin ark, & his special status has long left the station
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Smoking hot as well
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each to their own:
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Are you more of a Gerry Francis guy?
He probably won't get another big job. Whether he is "finished", I'm not sure.
Let's not forget, most of his success hasn't come at "the top". Porto, Inter Milan, Chelsea, they aren't/weren't huge clubs at the time he took over, they weren't successful. The underdog mentality suits him.
However such is the gap in resources there's only so far good management will take you.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by EDDIEVH (U8193)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's simply a defensive, stop the other team, manager, that now cannot cope in the modern game.
His tactics worked in the past because attacking teams were nowhere near as fluid as they are now. So attacking teams just played against his brick wall, nowadays, decent attacking teams can pull that brick wall apart and he doesn't really have an answer to it.
He's also a manager who heavily benefitted from manipulating and bullying referees into giving his team favourable decisions. If there's one positive of VAR, it is much harder to do this now.
He's not a terrible manager, just the time were his "skills" could flourish are long gone.
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Think also the pressing most top sides down do from the front is far more cohesive and effective than it was during Mourinho's prime years. Sides are much better at stopping long ball counters before they can start. Defenders no longer have time to get their heads up and hoof to a decent area because they're instantly under pressure.
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Yes absolutely, teams like his with their low block are now under immense pressure from high presses, this is another key factor why it doesn't work so well now.
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posted on 17/1/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 28 seconds ago
Yeah don’t see Newcastle going for him, doesn’t really fit their profile.
Inter Miami should take him and let him manage the Barca boys.
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Xavi is struggling at Barcelona. They should appoint Mourinho, bringing him home to the club where his career as a coach began. The fans would love it.
posted on 17/1/24
Russian
Great idea, let him bring some steel into the team and bring in Ramos and Pepe.
posted on 17/1/24
Chelsea fans clamouring for him is great fun
posted on 17/1/24
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 48 minutes ago
might be the right time for him to think about moving into international football which I think will suit him more
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My god, imagine inflicting Mourinho upon a World Cup.
Because you just know it wouldn't be a cheerable minnow like Zambia or Cambodia to glory.
posted on 17/1/24
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 5 minutes ago
A classic case of a manager that is hell bent on not moving with times.
You can call this generation of players all you want and think they are soft, you still have to sing to their drum if you want to be successful. Mourinho the sort of manager can only succeed with mentality likes of Terry, Drogba and Lampard. Those days are long gone.
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Think there’s still a couple of managers that can still do that and not sing to the drum of the players, they’re very highly respected as coaches with more recent track records of success though.
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 49 minutes ago
Hasn't really achieved anything of note since the PL title during his second Chelsea stint.
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He got roma into back to back european cup finals.
That is remarkable.
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Nice one, Nick!
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 40 minutes ago
Should be forced to manage Forest as part of their punishment
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Fack me, what's their crime? Genocide?
posted on 17/1/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 10 minutes ago
Saka
His Real side were pretty entertaining weren't they? Think he got the highest scoring side in a La Liga season, while Pep’s Barca were around too.
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Possibly, although back then the gulf in class between Barca and Madrid vs the rest was absolutely massive. Happy to be wrong though, I only really saw them in big games where they'd be fairly Mourinho-esque.
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comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The tapering of the despair squid (U2958)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
His achievements with Porto were amazing and you can excuse any style in that scenario due to the budget of the club (at least vs top CL sides) but beyond that he soured football even when winning.
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Nah, his first Chelsea team were immense. Scared me every time we played them and played some nice football.
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Can't agree with that. His Chelsea side were usually awful to watch, revolutionary for a winning Prem side but dreadful to watch. They won a few games 4-0 but beyond that it was boring football that relied on the dark arts and odd moments of brilliance from a few very talented forwards.
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 28 seconds ago
Yeah don’t see Newcastle going for him, doesn’t really fit their profile.
Inter Miami should take him and let him manage the Barca boys.
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Xavi is struggling at Barcelona. They should appoint Mourinho, bringing him home to the club where his career as a coach began. The fans would love it.
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Given some of their player recruitment it wouldn't surprise me if they went for a once successful past it manager. Plus with how they are clearly so off the tempo with Real Madrid this season they must be feeling a bit desperate to close that gap.
posted on 17/1/24
Yes
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 15 minutes ago
Given some of their player recruitment it wouldn't surprise me if they went for a once successful past it manager. Plus with how they are clearly so off the tempo with Real Madrid this season they must be feeling a bit desperate to close that gap.
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I reckon they'd sooner hire the ghost of Franco than Mourinho.
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 37 minutes ago
I doubt Newcastle would go for Mourinho. The reason to get him would be running after a big name (and he still is a big name) to bring the project some glamour. But everything Newcastle's new ownership has done so far has been smarter than that. They have bought wisely and for the long-term construction of a good football team. They haven't chased star players on their way down, but very talented players before their prime years. Why would they do the opposite in their choice of coach? Particularly when Mourinho's style of football doesn't fit the principles the club is currently following.
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You're right. If all goes to plan for them then they wouldn't need or want mourinho. This season though is probably the first under their ownership that hasn't gone to plan. If they become impatient then I can see them turning to him.
posted on 17/1/24
Reckon he gets the Brazil gig
posted on 17/1/24
He's simply a defensive, stop the other team, manager, that now cannot cope in the modern game.
His tactics worked in the past because attacking teams were nowhere near as fluid as they are now. So attacking teams just played against his brick wall, nowadays, decent attacking teams can pull that brick wall apart and he doesn't really have an answer to it.
He's also a manager who heavily benefitted from manipulating and bullying referees into giving his team favourable decisions. If there's one positive of VAR, it is much harder to do this now.
He's not a terrible manager, just the time were his "skills" could flourish are long gone.
posted on 17/1/24
Saka
Think you’re being a bit harsh about Jose’s Chelsea, they were a machine and devastating on the break. Yes they could be nasty when they needed to but they also had some incredible players both defensively and offensively. And it wasn’t just in the PL, they had some legendary games in the CL, especially their games with Barca.
Jose is obviously the pantomime villain (which he’s brilliant at) but people forget at times his Chelsea, Real and Inter sides were great to watch.
posted on 17/1/24
comment by EDDIEVH (U8193)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's simply a defensive, stop the other team, manager, that now cannot cope in the modern game.
His tactics worked in the past because attacking teams were nowhere near as fluid as they are now. So attacking teams just played against his brick wall, nowadays, decent attacking teams can pull that brick wall apart and he doesn't really have an answer to it.
He's also a manager who heavily benefitted from manipulating and bullying referees into giving his team favourable decisions. If there's one positive of VAR, it is much harder to do this now.
He's not a terrible manager, just the time were his "skills" could flourish are long gone.
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Think also the pressing most top sides down do from the front is far more cohesive and effective than it was during Mourinho's prime years. Sides are much better at stopping long ball counters before they can start. Defenders no longer have time to get their heads up and hoof to a decent area because they're instantly under pressure.
posted on 17/1/24
Seriously blotted his copy book over the Eva Canario saga...we had an absolute gem in her, & our injuries were at a minimum under her tenure
Look at us now...we permanently have an injury list that would have a shot at top 4 on their own these days
He's also not kept up to date....that brand of football went out with the fackin ark, & his special status has long left the station
posted on 17/1/24
Back in the day the Chelsea sides of 04-06 were unplayable 15 goals conceded in one & only dropping one game for one season...a 1-0 loss to City via a penalty
Ironically scored by a player we then bought...Roman's money helped of course..but boy did we buy well
posted on 17/1/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 4 minutes ago
Saka
Think you’re being a bit harsh about Jose’s Chelsea, they were a machine and devastating on the break. Yes they could be nasty when they needed to but they also had some incredible players both defensively and offensively. And it wasn’t just in the PL, they had some legendary games in the CL, especially their games with Barca.
Jose is obviously the pantomime villain (which he’s brilliant at) but people forget at times his Chelsea, Real and Inter sides were great to watch.
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Each to their own, fair enough if you enjoyed watching them
I agree they had brilliant moments and some brilliant players but to me the main thing was dreadful, ultra defensive football which then relied on individual moments of brilliance (Drogba, Robben Lampard etc) while the rest of the side barely crossed the half way line.
It worked and his side's acheived great things. Not so much Chelsea as they were out spending the competition by so much but Porto and briefly Inter you can't argue he achieved incredible results regardless of style.
posted on 17/1/24
He's actually supposed to one the nicest blokes away from football so he must have a split personality or something as he is the most horrible khant in the game.
I hated pretty much all of his tenure when was our manager and did not want him in the first place and his tactics, football and real low stuff he does is not welcome.
He is finished at the top level. I his modos operando is give me money and players and 1 season I will win something and again second season, third season I will throw my toys out and have tantrams, belittle the players and get sacked..... nice pay comes with it.
He's done it everywhere he's been.....boring boring.... jog on Jose jog on.
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 minutes ago
Seriously blotted his copy book over the Eva Canario saga...we had an absolute gem in her, & our injuries were at a minimum under her tenure
Look at us now...we permanently have an injury list that would have a shot at top 4 on their own these days
He's also not kept up to date....that brand of football went out with the fackin ark, & his special status has long left the station
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Smoking hot as well
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 7 minutes ago
Seriously blotted his copy book over the Eva Canario saga...we had an absolute gem in her, & our injuries were at a minimum under her tenure
Look at us now...we permanently have an injury list that would have a shot at top 4 on their own these days
He's also not kept up to date....that brand of football went out with the fackin ark, & his special status has long left the station
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Smoking hot as well
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each to their own:
https://scontent.fbhx4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/37283373_2136364899724720_8906455372269617152_n.png?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=7f8c78&_nc_ohc=EmZWVcQF7EYAX9lYL68&_nc_ht=scontent.fbhx4-1.fna&oh=00_AfDz0ouQFkA4rvvyMw4gJCXW_-88rt6_GVrg6mD2zf-28A&oe=65CF5161
posted on 17/1/24
Are you more of a Gerry Francis guy?
posted on 17/1/24
He probably won't get another big job. Whether he is "finished", I'm not sure.
Let's not forget, most of his success hasn't come at "the top". Porto, Inter Milan, Chelsea, they aren't/weren't huge clubs at the time he took over, they weren't successful. The underdog mentality suits him.
However such is the gap in resources there's only so far good management will take you.
posted on 17/1/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by EDDIEVH (U8193)
posted 6 minutes ago
He's simply a defensive, stop the other team, manager, that now cannot cope in the modern game.
His tactics worked in the past because attacking teams were nowhere near as fluid as they are now. So attacking teams just played against his brick wall, nowadays, decent attacking teams can pull that brick wall apart and he doesn't really have an answer to it.
He's also a manager who heavily benefitted from manipulating and bullying referees into giving his team favourable decisions. If there's one positive of VAR, it is much harder to do this now.
He's not a terrible manager, just the time were his "skills" could flourish are long gone.
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Think also the pressing most top sides down do from the front is far more cohesive and effective than it was during Mourinho's prime years. Sides are much better at stopping long ball counters before they can start. Defenders no longer have time to get their heads up and hoof to a decent area because they're instantly under pressure.
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Yes absolutely, teams like his with their low block are now under immense pressure from high presses, this is another key factor why it doesn't work so well now.
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