comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 8 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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He’s not worse, he’s far worse. SAF would have sent him back ages ago
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No he isn't. Jesus, do you remember West Ham? Do you remember Sevilla? Do you remember how often Coco literally threw games away? Nothing wrong with nostalgia but ffs De Gea was a total liability for literally years at United.
I don't even think Onana has been good, he's a constant source of anxiety for me. But worse than De Gea? Not a chance. And every stat backs that up
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
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Absolutely. Recruitment and getting rid of the results of previous poor recruitment are the biggest factors in getting to where we want to be right now. At least SJR seems serious about winning though, so that could and really ought to bring about significant improvement in that regard. The bar is ridiculously low
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Probably for the best it’s not that way, onana would owe us money
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
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Absolutely. Recruitment and getting rid of the results of previous poor recruitment are the biggest factors in getting to where we want to be right now. At least SJR seems serious about winning though, so that could and really ought to bring about significant improvement in that regard. The bar is ridiculously low
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That doesn’t mean much, to be fair. Chelsea’s owners are serious about winning.
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Come on Vengeance I totally admire your top red approach to everything but do you seriously think Manchester United should accept the worst Champions league performance ranking in Europe in a weak group even Celtic out performed us, nobody on this board ignores more facts than you in your vanity mission to seem to be the best fan boy.
Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
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That, and people being weirdly intent on blaming Onana for goals he has no chance of stopping has created this odd re-writing of history with De Gea.
Not that I rate Onana, but us replacing De Gea with the wrong man does not mean he didn't need replacing. He was quite literally one of the worst keepers in the league last season by any metric you want to use.
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 53 seconds ago
Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
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That, and people being weirdly intent on blaming Onana for goals he has no chance of stopping has created this odd re-writing of history with De Gea.
Not that I rate Onana, but us replacing De Gea with the wrong man does not mean he didn't need replacing. He was quite literally one of the worst keepers in the league last season by any metric you want to use.
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Degea did need replacing the FA cup final convinced of that but it’s hard to argue we got it right so far.
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Come on Vengeance I totally admire your top red approach to everything but do you seriously think Manchester United should accept the worst Champions league performance ranking in Europe in a weak group even Celtic out performed us, nobody on this board ignores more facts than you in your vanity mission to seem to be the best fan boy.
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Plump-MuFC fan of the year 23-34.
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 25 seconds ago
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
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A sort of level of competence is emerging
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
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Absolutely. Recruitment and getting rid of the results of previous poor recruitment are the biggest factors in getting to where we want to be right now. At least SJR seems serious about winning though, so that could and really ought to bring about significant improvement in that regard. The bar is ridiculously low
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That doesn’t mean much, to be fair. Chelsea’s owners are serious about winning.
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True 😂
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
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That, and people being weirdly intent on blaming Onana for goals he has no chance of stopping has created this odd re-writing of history with De Gea.
Not that I rate Onana, but us replacing De Gea with the wrong man does not mean he didn't need replacing. He was quite literally one of the worst keepers in the league last season by any metric you want to use.
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Yeah it’s ridiculous the lengths people go to blaming him for goals that have conceded.
I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt over this season anyway. Keepers can struggle sometimes just moving to a new club within the same league, see Raya, so he could still improve.
We need a settled back four more than anything anyway.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 minutes ago
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
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Aye but his kicking left a lot to be desired
Pellestri with a goal and assist against Barca today. 🙃
So that's Garnacho, Amad, Elanga and Pellestri who were all better than Antony.
Why was he so keen on him? I don't get it.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pellestri with a goal and assist against Barca today. 🙃
So that's Garnacho, Amad, Elanga and Pellestri who were all better than Antony.
Why was he so keen on him? I don't get it.
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Antony is not good enough. Pellistri and Elanga are not better. It remains to be seen with Amad.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 minutes ago
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
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He was one of our better performers today.
The problem is those who have an issue with Eth have an issue with most of his signings. Granted, Onana has been OK to good at best but a GK who was outstanding in a CL final and received due recognition does not become a nobody, the guy has clout and it will be a matter of time before he rediscovers form and consistency.
I am alarmed by the number of bed wetters who have a tendency to overreact and write everyone off, especially the manager. They shall be eating humble pie very soon.
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Come on Vengeance I totally admire your top red approach to everything but do you seriously think Manchester United should accept the worst Champions league performance ranking in Europe in a weak group even Celtic out performed us, nobody on this board ignores more facts than you in your vanity mission to seem to be the best fan boy.
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Plumpy at Top Red. LOL
He doesnt even watch all the games on dodgy streams.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 31 minutes ago
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
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Wait. What?
No way.
As for the manager, there has to come a point where people realise the problems are bigger than any manager can fix.
I think ETH could do the job but the club needs to change first.
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 25 seconds ago
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
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A sort of level of competence is emerging
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I wish one could say the same for you.
It's called form and confidence. Once those aspects take hold this should equate to consistency and reliability. That goes for all our out of form players!
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 24 minutes ago
Pellestri with a goal and assist against Barca today. 🙃
So that's Garnacho, Amad, Elanga and Pellestri who were all better than Antony.
Why was he so keen on him? I don't get it.
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Pellistri also contributing more than Rashford 🙃
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 minutes ago
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
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Aye but his kicking left a lot to be desired
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DDGs kicking was assisting the opponent with greater regularity or are we choosing to forget this point?!
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posted on 11/2/24
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 8 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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He’s not worse, he’s far worse. SAF would have sent him back ages ago
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No he isn't. Jesus, do you remember West Ham? Do you remember Sevilla? Do you remember how often Coco literally threw games away? Nothing wrong with nostalgia but ffs De Gea was a total liability for literally years at United.
I don't even think Onana has been good, he's a constant source of anxiety for me. But worse than De Gea? Not a chance. And every stat backs that up
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
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Absolutely. Recruitment and getting rid of the results of previous poor recruitment are the biggest factors in getting to where we want to be right now. At least SJR seems serious about winning though, so that could and really ought to bring about significant improvement in that regard. The bar is ridiculously low
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Probably for the best it’s not that way, onana would owe us money
posted on 11/2/24
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
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Absolutely. Recruitment and getting rid of the results of previous poor recruitment are the biggest factors in getting to where we want to be right now. At least SJR seems serious about winning though, so that could and really ought to bring about significant improvement in that regard. The bar is ridiculously low
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That doesn’t mean much, to be fair. Chelsea’s owners are serious about winning.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Come on Vengeance I totally admire your top red approach to everything but do you seriously think Manchester United should accept the worst Champions league performance ranking in Europe in a weak group even Celtic out performed us, nobody on this board ignores more facts than you in your vanity mission to seem to be the best fan boy.
posted on 11/2/24
Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
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That, and people being weirdly intent on blaming Onana for goals he has no chance of stopping has created this odd re-writing of history with De Gea.
Not that I rate Onana, but us replacing De Gea with the wrong man does not mean he didn't need replacing. He was quite literally one of the worst keepers in the league last season by any metric you want to use.
posted on 11/2/24
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 53 seconds ago
Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
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That, and people being weirdly intent on blaming Onana for goals he has no chance of stopping has created this odd re-writing of history with De Gea.
Not that I rate Onana, but us replacing De Gea with the wrong man does not mean he didn't need replacing. He was quite literally one of the worst keepers in the league last season by any metric you want to use.
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Degea did need replacing the FA cup final convinced of that but it’s hard to argue we got it right so far.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Come on Vengeance I totally admire your top red approach to everything but do you seriously think Manchester United should accept the worst Champions league performance ranking in Europe in a weak group even Celtic out performed us, nobody on this board ignores more facts than you in your vanity mission to seem to be the best fan boy.
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Plump-MuFC fan of the year 23-34.
posted on 11/2/24
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 25 seconds ago
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
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A sort of level of competence is emerging
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 11 minutes ago
Onana is not worse than De Gea. The man has been unemployed for nearly a year for a reason FFS. I'll give you an example of why. Onana has repeatedly made saves this season where the likes of Gary "I can't say anything positive about United" Neville claims have just hit him. This has happened numerous times. How facking stupid do you have to be to see that as just luck, rather than an awareness of the positioning of his defenders and placing himself in a position where the attacker has to hit the ball to avoid a defender's block?
Now, I'm not saying he's been great but Onana has been better than De Gea was last season in virtually every available metric. De Gea was done, he was awful.
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Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
On ETH I’m indifferent. If the club want to continue with him or replace him I’m not bothered, I’m more bothered what they’re going to do to address the issues with our recruitment. There’s promising signs based on some of the decisions that have been made, but it remains to be seen how the transfer strategy is going to be carried out.
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Absolutely. Recruitment and getting rid of the results of previous poor recruitment are the biggest factors in getting to where we want to be right now. At least SJR seems serious about winning though, so that could and really ought to bring about significant improvement in that regard. The bar is ridiculously low
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That doesn’t mean much, to be fair. Chelsea’s owners are serious about winning.
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True 😂
posted on 11/2/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
Yeah it’s like people have amnesia over how bad De Gea became.
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That, and people being weirdly intent on blaming Onana for goals he has no chance of stopping has created this odd re-writing of history with De Gea.
Not that I rate Onana, but us replacing De Gea with the wrong man does not mean he didn't need replacing. He was quite literally one of the worst keepers in the league last season by any metric you want to use.
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Yeah it’s ridiculous the lengths people go to blaming him for goals that have conceded.
I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt over this season anyway. Keepers can struggle sometimes just moving to a new club within the same league, see Raya, so he could still improve.
We need a settled back four more than anything anyway.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 minutes ago
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
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Aye but his kicking left a lot to be desired
posted on 11/2/24
Pellestri with a goal and assist against Barca today. 🙃
So that's Garnacho, Amad, Elanga and Pellestri who were all better than Antony.
Why was he so keen on him? I don't get it.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 12 minutes ago
Pellestri with a goal and assist against Barca today. 🙃
So that's Garnacho, Amad, Elanga and Pellestri who were all better than Antony.
Why was he so keen on him? I don't get it.
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Antony is not good enough. Pellistri and Elanga are not better. It remains to be seen with Amad.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 26 minutes ago
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
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He was one of our better performers today.
The problem is those who have an issue with Eth have an issue with most of his signings. Granted, Onana has been OK to good at best but a GK who was outstanding in a CL final and received due recognition does not become a nobody, the guy has clout and it will be a matter of time before he rediscovers form and consistency.
I am alarmed by the number of bed wetters who have a tendency to overreact and write everyone off, especially the manager. They shall be eating humble pie very soon.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (#EthIn) (U23079)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 24 seconds ago
Champions league he earns himself another chance to redeem himself from the catastrophe of this years showing, failure to qualify he goes after said catastrophe and with his agent and son who works for the agent being party to almost busting the club on ridiculous deals for Onana, Antony and Mount, one agent close the Onana deal claimed last week Inter would have taken 6 million for Onana and were amazed at the opening offer made.
Don’t think he is the long term answer, we won today but we’re still way off where we should be after the money spent.
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Another equating money spent with performance. Chelsea spent far more so should be top by that logic, right?!
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Come on Vengeance I totally admire your top red approach to everything but do you seriously think Manchester United should accept the worst Champions league performance ranking in Europe in a weak group even Celtic out performed us, nobody on this board ignores more facts than you in your vanity mission to seem to be the best fan boy.
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Plumpy at Top Red. LOL
He doesnt even watch all the games on dodgy streams.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 31 minutes ago
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
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Wait. What?
No way.
posted on 11/2/24
As for the manager, there has to come a point where people realise the problems are bigger than any manager can fix.
I think ETH could do the job but the club needs to change first.
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 25 seconds ago
Does nobody think Onana is gradually getting better?
I do.
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A sort of level of competence is emerging
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I wish one could say the same for you.
It's called form and confidence. Once those aspects take hold this should equate to consistency and reliability. That goes for all our out of form players!
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 24 minutes ago
Pellestri with a goal and assist against Barca today. 🙃
So that's Garnacho, Amad, Elanga and Pellestri who were all better than Antony.
Why was he so keen on him? I don't get it.
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Pellistri also contributing more than Rashford 🙃
posted on 11/2/24
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 minutes ago
And credit where its due btw - Onana was superb today.
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Aye but his kicking left a lot to be desired
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DDGs kicking was assisting the opponent with greater regularity or are we choosing to forget this point?!
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