Oh, and none of this "he'd never go to United". He's a worldly football pro from a family of football pros, so it's quite likely he'll go wherever he deems the biggest opportunity lies.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
Oh, and none of this "he'd never go to United". He's a worldly football pro from a family of football pros, so it's quite likely he'll go wherever he deems the biggest opportunity lies.
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Which will be taking over from Klopp. No way he will view United that way. Real maybe.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Which will be taking over from Klopp. No way he will view United that way. Real maybe.
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They've got a squad in place to achieve stuff, but the potential downside to the Liverpool job is also huge, VC.
Leverkusen were in the relegation zone when he took over there little over a year ago, and they're already looking like champions elect. And he chose them after turning down M'gladbach, who were in a much better position at the time.
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
Early days for him to get such a top job, surely?
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not versatile enough
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Eh?
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 32 minutes ago
Oh, and none of this "he'd never go to United". He's a worldly football pro from a family of football pros, so it's quite likely he'll go wherever he deems the biggest opportunity lies.
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Naaah. He'd be absolutely mad to go to United. Maybe in future when he's past his peak and on the way down.
I'm surprised nobody has suggested that he might go to Bayern. If you can't beat him, get him to join you.
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posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Which will be taking over from Klopp. No way he will view United that way. Real maybe.
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They've got a squad in place to achieve stuff, but the potential downside to the Liverpool job is also huge, VC.
Leverkusen were in the relegation zone when he took over there little over a year ago, and they're already looking like champions elect. And he chose them after turning down M'gladbach, who were in a much better position at the time.
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
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Naaah, the United job is a poisoned chalice and he knows this as he's not stupid. He will blemish his managerial career just as soon as it's started.
You also can't ignore his Liverpool links which he will consider for sure. Liverpool will be looking for a new manager this summer and if he's available to move and Liverpool want him then it's a done deal if the other option is United.
comment by Firkin (U19526)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'm surprised nobody has suggested that he might go to Bayern. If you can't beat him, get him to join you.
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Apparently he is most likely to stay at Leverkusen one more season. Second most likely is Liverpool and then Bayern.
According to some report I read in German media anyway.
comment by Firkin (U19526)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm surprised nobody has suggested that he might go to Bayern. If you can't beat him, get him to join you.
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Bayern's an obvious suggestion, as are Liverpool and to a lesser extent (at this precise moment in time) Madrid.
Liverpool are the obvious frontrunners for me, due to the position they're in, his past there, and the timing of it all.
I just have this niggling feeling he may well not end up doing what most expect him to.
He might pull a surprise, but I would be willing to wager that he will never manage Manchester United in his career.
Even Arsenal, Chelsea are more likely than United. United is the last English club he'd become manager of.
Gareth Barry would be better.
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
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Was having this discussion with a friend the other day, but with regards to Nagelsmann.
From what I've seen the general consensus is that United will be lower in the pecking order this summer if we go for a new manager, with Liverpool, Bayern and Barca among those in the market. But I think whoever gets the United job next will have it the best out of any of their 'post-Fergie era' predecessors, finally working under an ownership which seems to be prioritising the sporting side of things. Managers' priorities are not the same as players', and whilst I won't try to second guess anyone's choices, I don't think its inconceivable that the chance to build a legacy as the man who turned things around at United (under its new sporting structure) is a more appealing option to some than being the man to fill Klopp's shoes.
All that being said, I really dont think Alonso would come here.
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 24 minutes ago
Early days for him to get such a top job, surely?
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No offence, but whilst you still have plenty of glamour and resources, the current team that seems to struggle every other year to make the CL and fails to make an impact when it does is no longer as attractive as it used to be.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 20 seconds ago
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
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Was having this discussion with a friend the other day, but with regards to Nagelsmann.
From what I've seen the general consensus is that United will be lower in the pecking order this summer if we go for a new manager, with Liverpool, Bayern and Barca among those in the market. But I think whoever gets the United job next will have it the best out of any of their 'post-Fergie era' predecessors, finally working under an ownership which seems to be prioritising the sporting side of things. Managers' priorities are not the same as players', and whilst I won't try to second guess anyone's choices, I don't think its inconceivable that the chance to build a legacy as the man who turned things around at United (under its new sporting structure) is a more appealing option to some than being the man to fill Klopp's shoes.
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It's only appealing if they feel it's doable. And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige. It's not like taking Leverkusen to the Bundesliga title.
Well, why not?
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Deaths threats from Liverpool fans.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Well, why not?
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Deaths threats from Liverpool fans.
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Or bomb threats from United fans.
comment by Stone Cold Mamba (U1282)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Well, why not?
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Deaths threats from Liverpool fans.
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Or bomb threats from United fans.
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*where his wife and kids live.
At least Liverpool fans wouldn't harm his family or destroy his house.
"It's only appealing if they feel it's doable."
Well, yeah, kind of implied.
"And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige."
Not really. If you become the first man in over a decade to get some success with one of the most famous and well supported clubs on the planet, I hardly think you are going to feel your achievement is undermined by a few people (most likely on social media) saying 'well look at how much money they have'. Klopp himself is a good example.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 32 seconds ago
"It's only appealing if they feel it's doable."
Well, yeah, kind of implied.
"And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige."
Not really. If you become the first man in over a decade to get some success with one of the most famous and well supported clubs on the planet, I hardly think you are going to feel your achievement is undermined by a few people (most likely on social media) saying 'well look at how much money they have'. Klopp himself is a good example.
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Klopp isn't a good example because you can't look at Liverpool and say 'look how much money they have' when compared with the competition. But you can't say that about United. Liverpool's spending is more like Spurs than Man United. Even Arsenal are outspending us.
It won't be a few people IMO. Of course the achievement would be acclaimed but not enough to make managers hungry for the job IMO.
*can say that about United
I think he’ll want manage a team in the CL. Got Barca links too, so I suspect Utd are pretty far down the list.
Dan Ashwirth was seen with Potter. Which Utd that’s for I’ve no idea.
comment by Stone Cold Mamba (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 32 seconds ago
"It's only appealing if they feel it's doable."
Well, yeah, kind of implied.
"And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige."
Not really. If you become the first man in over a decade to get some success with one of the most famous and well supported clubs on the planet, I hardly think you are going to feel your achievement is undermined by a few people (most likely on social media) saying 'well look at how much money they have'. Klopp himself is a good example.
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Klopp isn't a good example because you can't look at Liverpool and say 'look how much money they have' when compared with the competition. But you can't say that about United. Liverpool's spending is more like Spurs than Man United. Even Arsenal are outspending us.
It won't be a few people IMO. Of course the achievement would be acclaimed but not enough to make managers hungry for the job IMO.
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Yeah, fine, I'm not here to get into that debate about Liverpool being some kind of paupers mixing it with the establishment, but if you say so. The point is it would be a pretty naive argument to make given how little our spending has done for us in the past 10 years, and I really dont think it would take away from anyone's sense of personal achievement one bit.
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posted on 4/3/24
Oh, and none of this "he'd never go to United". He's a worldly football pro from a family of football pros, so it's quite likely he'll go wherever he deems the biggest opportunity lies.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 12 seconds ago
Oh, and none of this "he'd never go to United". He's a worldly football pro from a family of football pros, so it's quite likely he'll go wherever he deems the biggest opportunity lies.
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Which will be taking over from Klopp. No way he will view United that way. Real maybe.
posted on 4/3/24
he'd never go to United
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Which will be taking over from Klopp. No way he will view United that way. Real maybe.
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They've got a squad in place to achieve stuff, but the potential downside to the Liverpool job is also huge, VC.
Leverkusen were in the relegation zone when he took over there little over a year ago, and they're already looking like champions elect. And he chose them after turning down M'gladbach, who were in a much better position at the time.
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
posted on 4/3/24
Early days for him to get such a top job, surely?
posted on 4/3/24
Not versatile enough
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
Not versatile enough
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Eh?
posted on 4/3/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 32 minutes ago
Oh, and none of this "he'd never go to United". He's a worldly football pro from a family of football pros, so it's quite likely he'll go wherever he deems the biggest opportunity lies.
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Naaah. He'd be absolutely mad to go to United. Maybe in future when he's past his peak and on the way down.
posted on 4/3/24
I'm surprised nobody has suggested that he might go to Bayern. If you can't beat him, get him to join you.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 6 minutes ago
Which will be taking over from Klopp. No way he will view United that way. Real maybe.
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They've got a squad in place to achieve stuff, but the potential downside to the Liverpool job is also huge, VC.
Leverkusen were in the relegation zone when he took over there little over a year ago, and they're already looking like champions elect. And he chose them after turning down M'gladbach, who were in a much better position at the time.
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
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Naaah, the United job is a poisoned chalice and he knows this as he's not stupid. He will blemish his managerial career just as soon as it's started.
You also can't ignore his Liverpool links which he will consider for sure. Liverpool will be looking for a new manager this summer and if he's available to move and Liverpool want him then it's a done deal if the other option is United.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Firkin (U19526)
posted 3 minutes ago
I'm surprised nobody has suggested that he might go to Bayern. If you can't beat him, get him to join you.
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Apparently he is most likely to stay at Leverkusen one more season. Second most likely is Liverpool and then Bayern.
According to some report I read in German media anyway.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Firkin (U19526)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm surprised nobody has suggested that he might go to Bayern. If you can't beat him, get him to join you.
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Bayern's an obvious suggestion, as are Liverpool and to a lesser extent (at this precise moment in time) Madrid.
Liverpool are the obvious frontrunners for me, due to the position they're in, his past there, and the timing of it all.
I just have this niggling feeling he may well not end up doing what most expect him to.
posted on 4/3/24
He might pull a surprise, but I would be willing to wager that he will never manage Manchester United in his career.
Even Arsenal, Chelsea are more likely than United. United is the last English club he'd become manager of.
posted on 4/3/24
Gareth Barry would be better.
posted on 4/3/24
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
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Was having this discussion with a friend the other day, but with regards to Nagelsmann.
From what I've seen the general consensus is that United will be lower in the pecking order this summer if we go for a new manager, with Liverpool, Bayern and Barca among those in the market. But I think whoever gets the United job next will have it the best out of any of their 'post-Fergie era' predecessors, finally working under an ownership which seems to be prioritising the sporting side of things. Managers' priorities are not the same as players', and whilst I won't try to second guess anyone's choices, I don't think its inconceivable that the chance to build a legacy as the man who turned things around at United (under its new sporting structure) is a more appealing option to some than being the man to fill Klopp's shoes.
All that being said, I really dont think Alonso would come here.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 24 minutes ago
Early days for him to get such a top job, surely?
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No offence, but whilst you still have plenty of glamour and resources, the current team that seems to struggle every other year to make the CL and fails to make an impact when it does is no longer as attractive as it used to be.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 20 seconds ago
The chance to restore someone like United to their former glory would be seen as a much bigger achievement. The downside mightn't be all that great, since failing to make it would probably be put down to United being an ungovernable basket case.
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Was having this discussion with a friend the other day, but with regards to Nagelsmann.
From what I've seen the general consensus is that United will be lower in the pecking order this summer if we go for a new manager, with Liverpool, Bayern and Barca among those in the market. But I think whoever gets the United job next will have it the best out of any of their 'post-Fergie era' predecessors, finally working under an ownership which seems to be prioritising the sporting side of things. Managers' priorities are not the same as players', and whilst I won't try to second guess anyone's choices, I don't think its inconceivable that the chance to build a legacy as the man who turned things around at United (under its new sporting structure) is a more appealing option to some than being the man to fill Klopp's shoes.
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It's only appealing if they feel it's doable. And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige. It's not like taking Leverkusen to the Bundesliga title.
posted on 4/3/24
Well, why not?
———
Deaths threats from Liverpool fans.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Well, why not?
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Deaths threats from Liverpool fans.
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Or bomb threats from United fans.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Stone Cold Mamba (U1282)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Well, why not?
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Deaths threats from Liverpool fans.
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Or bomb threats from United fans.
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*where his wife and kids live.
At least Liverpool fans wouldn't harm his family or destroy his house.
posted on 4/3/24
"It's only appealing if they feel it's doable."
Well, yeah, kind of implied.
"And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige."
Not really. If you become the first man in over a decade to get some success with one of the most famous and well supported clubs on the planet, I hardly think you are going to feel your achievement is undermined by a few people (most likely on social media) saying 'well look at how much money they have'. Klopp himself is a good example.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 32 seconds ago
"It's only appealing if they feel it's doable."
Well, yeah, kind of implied.
"And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige."
Not really. If you become the first man in over a decade to get some success with one of the most famous and well supported clubs on the planet, I hardly think you are going to feel your achievement is undermined by a few people (most likely on social media) saying 'well look at how much money they have'. Klopp himself is a good example.
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Klopp isn't a good example because you can't look at Liverpool and say 'look how much money they have' when compared with the competition. But you can't say that about United. Liverpool's spending is more like Spurs than Man United. Even Arsenal are outspending us.
It won't be a few people IMO. Of course the achievement would be acclaimed but not enough to make managers hungry for the job IMO.
posted on 4/3/24
*can say that about United
posted on 4/3/24
I think he’ll want manage a team in the CL. Got Barca links too, so I suspect Utd are pretty far down the list.
Dan Ashwirth was seen with Potter. Which Utd that’s for I’ve no idea.
posted on 4/3/24
comment by Stone Cold Mamba (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 32 seconds ago
"It's only appealing if they feel it's doable."
Well, yeah, kind of implied.
"And the reward isn't as great as you might think because even if you make United succesful again people will still point to all the money and prestige."
Not really. If you become the first man in over a decade to get some success with one of the most famous and well supported clubs on the planet, I hardly think you are going to feel your achievement is undermined by a few people (most likely on social media) saying 'well look at how much money they have'. Klopp himself is a good example.
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Klopp isn't a good example because you can't look at Liverpool and say 'look how much money they have' when compared with the competition. But you can't say that about United. Liverpool's spending is more like Spurs than Man United. Even Arsenal are outspending us.
It won't be a few people IMO. Of course the achievement would be acclaimed but not enough to make managers hungry for the job IMO.
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Yeah, fine, I'm not here to get into that debate about Liverpool being some kind of paupers mixing it with the establishment, but if you say so. The point is it would be a pretty naive argument to make given how little our spending has done for us in the past 10 years, and I really dont think it would take away from anyone's sense of personal achievement one bit.
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