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posted on 18/3/24

Try losing the way we did this weekend

posted on 18/3/24

I’ve no idea given we won the more important game emphatically and although we’re now a point worse off - the permutation remains that we’re 4th if we win our game in hand.

The hand wringing over this one match is insane - Ange is in his first season, we’re going to have games like this as part of the learning curve.

Liverpool yesterday managed to throw the same game away twice, and it had far more on the line for them - but they aren’t questioning everything

posted on 18/3/24

Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
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We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?

posted on 18/3/24

“I don’t see fourth as the prize, the club has finished fourth before, it’s finished second before, you can throw all types of things at it, it’s reached the CL final, you can throw all sorts of things, but the club has achieved things. So fourth is not my end goal I don’t want to finish fourth if we haven’t grown as a team or developed as a team”


Make of that what you will.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consecutive scoring record

Spurs are a good side and I think you’ve got a good manager in Ange but considering the complete lack of distractions this year you should be getting top four with consummate ease. I don’t think your injuries have been as bad as some others too.

I think you’ll get fifth (you or United) and that’ll be enough for CL. Tbh you’d be better off in the Europa, football is far more interesting and you’d be immediate favourites.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?

posted on 18/3/24

And that consecutive goal thing is more of a stat than an achievement.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consecutive scoring record

Spurs are a good side and I think you’ve got a good manager in Ange but considering the complete lack of distractions this year you should be getting top four with consummate ease. I don’t think your injuries have been as bad as some others too.

I think you’ll get fifth (you or United) and that’ll be enough for CL. Tbh you’d be better off in the Europa, football is far more interesting and you’d be immediate favourites.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve had horrific injuries - right up there with the worst.

People keep forgetting we sold Kane in the summer but still managed to set that consecutive goal record. How many other teams fall apart when they sell their best player - we improved

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Based on the statement you posted it’s sounds to me that 2nd and 4th aren’t good enough, losing CL finals is not good enough - he sounds like only 1st and winning finals is - I find it odd you have a problem with that statement.

You said you’ve not been impressed - what we’re your expectations of this season?

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
And that consecutive goal thing is more of a stat than an achievement.
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Completed without the best striker this club has ever had

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Based on the statement you posted it’s sounds to me that 2nd and 4th aren’t good enough, losing CL finals is not good enough - he sounds like only 1st and winning finals is - I find it odd you have a problem with that statement.

You said you’ve not been impressed - what we’re your expectations of this season?
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Let him get us into the Top 4, and then we’ll decide if it’s “good enough”

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Based on the statement you posted it’s sounds to me that 2nd and 4th aren’t good enough, losing CL finals is not good enough - he sounds like only 1st and winning finals is - I find it odd you have a problem with that statement.

You said you’ve not been impressed - what we’re your expectations of this season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let him get us into the Top 4, and then we’ll decide if it’s “good enough”
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s not though wherever we finish because it’s not 1st

You cannot be at all disappointed if you had no expectations for the season. What was your expectation?

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Based on the statement you posted it’s sounds to me that 2nd and 4th aren’t good enough, losing CL finals is not good enough - he sounds like only 1st and winning finals is - I find it odd you have a problem with that statement.

You said you’ve not been impressed - what we’re your expectations of this season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well it sounds to ME, that he’s talking down our chances of a top 4 finish.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Based on the statement you posted it’s sounds to me that 2nd and 4th aren’t good enough, losing CL finals is not good enough - he sounds like only 1st and winning finals is - I find it odd you have a problem with that statement.

You said you’ve not been impressed - what we’re your expectations of this season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let him get us into the Top 4, and then we’ll decide if it’s “good enough”
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s not though wherever we finish because it’s not 1st

You cannot be at all disappointed if you had no expectations for the season. What was your expectation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My hopes and expectations are the same every season.

A Top 4 finish and/or a domestic cup.

posted on 18/3/24

I wasn't bemoaning the whole season guys, I just felt so let down by this result.

Both the players and the Manager

Also, if Kulu doesn't start getting treated the same as everyone else, he and the manager are going to get problems.

For the system he insists on playing, no matter what, both wide men need to play well.bwe were playing with 9 men for the majority of Saturday.

Unfortunately, Son has to play left as no one else apparently can. The right is an issue, I'd even push Porri there so we get some crosses. Maybe Drags as RB

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Based on the statement you posted it’s sounds to me that 2nd and 4th aren’t good enough, losing CL finals is not good enough - he sounds like only 1st and winning finals is - I find it odd you have a problem with that statement.

You said you’ve not been impressed - what we’re your expectations of this season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let him get us into the Top 4, and then we’ll decide if it’s “good enough”
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s not though wherever we finish because it’s not 1st

You cannot be at all disappointed if you had no expectations for the season. What was your expectation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My hopes and expectations are the same every season.

A Top 4 finish and/or a domestic cup.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You expected that in his first season and after we sold Kane?

Most pundits had us down for 8th

We’ve bedded in a new keeper, new CB, new LB, Porro only 6 months in, new CM and new attackers in Solomon and BJ. We’ve had an injury crises, international tournaments in the middle of the season and Bissouma stupidly getting sent off twice.

It was a stupid selection in the league cup that got us knocked out - that one is on Ange.

The FA cup was just unlucky, we drew the very best side in Europe, a team that beat Real Madrid with ease. That is just bad luck - we rarely ever seem to get any luck in the FA cup draw these days

posted on 18/3/24

Probably about six points behind where you should be considering the spend.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 47 seconds ago
I wasn't bemoaning the whole season guys, I just felt so let down by this result.

Both the players and the Manager

Also, if Kulu doesn't start getting treated the same as everyone else, he and the manager are going to get problems.

For the system he insists on playing, no matter what, both wide men need to play well.bwe were playing with 9 men for the majority of Saturday.

Unfortunately, Son has to play left as no one else apparently can. The right is an issue, I'd even push Porri there so we get some crosses. Maybe Drags as RB
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I said it Saturday aswell, Ange chose the wrong attackers in the wrong position. BJ and Kulu constantly cutting and Son is never in the box for a cross because he constantly drifts. Ange needs to learn from that as those 3 simply cannot play together.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Probably about six points behind where you should be considering the spend.
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Which would still be 4th, the same position we will be in if we win our game in hand

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s not about my expectations, Its about the managers.

What are they exactly?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Based on the statement you posted it’s sounds to me that 2nd and 4th aren’t good enough, losing CL finals is not good enough - he sounds like only 1st and winning finals is - I find it odd you have a problem with that statement.

You said you’ve not been impressed - what we’re your expectations of this season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well it sounds to ME, that he’s talking down our chances of a top 4 finish.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think you are misinterpreting him. I think he is saying that he won’t be satisfied until we are winning things.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 3 minutes ago
I wasn't bemoaning the whole season guys, I just felt so let down by this result.

Both the players and the Manager

Also, if Kulu doesn't start getting treated the same as everyone else, he and the manager are going to get problems.

For the system he insists on playing, no matter what, both wide men need to play well.bwe were playing with 9 men for the majority of Saturday.

Unfortunately, Son has to play left as no one else apparently can. The right is an issue, I'd even push Porri there so we get some crosses. Maybe Drags as RB
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It’s classic Spursy behaviour.

Play amazingly one game, and utter dog sh!t the next.

We’ve been like that for years.

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 3 minutes ago
I wasn't bemoaning the whole season guys, I just felt so let down by this result.

Both the players and the Manager

Also, if Kulu doesn't start getting treated the same as everyone else, he and the manager are going to get problems.

For the system he insists on playing, no matter what, both wide men need to play well.bwe were playing with 9 men for the majority of Saturday.

Unfortunately, Son has to play left as no one else apparently can. The right is an issue, I'd even push Porri there so we get some crosses. Maybe Drags as RB
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s classic Spursy behaviour.

Play amazingly one game, and utter dog sh!t the next.

We’ve been like that for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We lined up with the wrong front 3. If son isn’t in the box - and he rarely is, then no one is and we are easy to defend against with a low block - that’s where Richy makes a difference.

Ange got that wrong on Saturday - I will question him if he makes that same faaack up again

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 3 minutes ago
I wasn't bemoaning the whole season guys, I just felt so let down by this result.

Both the players and the Manager

Also, if Kulu doesn't start getting treated the same as everyone else, he and the manager are going to get problems.

For the system he insists on playing, no matter what, both wide men need to play well.bwe were playing with 9 men for the majority of Saturday.

Unfortunately, Son has to play left as no one else apparently can. The right is an issue, I'd even push Porri there so we get some crosses. Maybe Drags as RB
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s classic Spursy behaviour.

Play amazingly one game, and utter dog sh!t the next.

We’ve been like that for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We lined up with the wrong front 3. If son isn’t in the box - and he rarely is, then no one is and we are easy to defend against with a low block - that’s where Richy makes a difference.

Ange got that wrong on Saturday - I will question him if he makes that same faaack up again
----------------------------------------------------------------------

posted on 18/3/24

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 seconds ago
Because it just showed that we haven’t really progressed at all.

Saw some quote from Ange earlier who’s now blatantly trying to manage expectations about Top 4.

Really not impressed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve gone from 8th to 5th whilst selling a generational talent. We’ve broken our consecutive scoring record and we’ve absolutely passed the eye test this year. We’ve seen drastic improvements in Richy and Porro.

We went to Fulham without arguably our most important player in this system VDV and blooded a new young CB.

What was your expectation for the season?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Consecutive scoring record

Spurs are a good side and I think you’ve got a good manager in Ange but considering the complete lack of distractions this year you should be getting top four with consummate ease. I don’t think your injuries have been as bad as some others too.

I think you’ll get fifth (you or United) and that’ll be enough for CL. Tbh you’d be better off in the Europa, football is far more interesting and you’d be immediate favourites.
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We’ve had horrific injuries - right up there with the worst.

People keep forgetting we sold Kane in the summer but still managed to set that consecutive goal record. How many other teams fall apart when they sell their best player - we improved
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Actually considering you sold one player and brought many in, I’m not surprised you improved. Same happened to us when we sold Coutinho. We went and used the money to buy the right players and the rest is history.

Regarding injuries I think every team thinks this but I don’t think Spurs are even in the top 5 for worst teams with injuries. This season has just been an absolute car crash for injuries across the board.

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