He's been good... very good, at times.
I think people forget he is still quite young (turned 25 this week).
He's a good, flexible player... I think we can ultimately do better, but he is a very useful player.
Darmian has indeed been excellent. Can't remember another player like him at United. Need to keep hold of him.
He's looked better since Garnacho started playing on the right. They seem to be building similar chemistry to what Shaw and Rashford have had in the past.
He's not world class though but you don't need a team of 11 world class players to be a good side. We need to bolster our defence and midfield this summer though that's for sure. We need more control of the ball and then players like Dalot might actually flourish more.
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
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Didn't ETH do this against Spurs in Jan? Maybe he feels you lose some of Dalot's attacking ability when at LB but you don't really lose much from AWB there. Just a thoery.
He's improving season on season and is now a pretty good player. We could probably still upgrade in that position but I also wouldn't put it past Dalot to carry on improving - he seems to have the right mentality about him.
Is also one of very few players in this squad who is consistently available, which you have to appreciate.
I know of some United fans who want us to sell him this summer - not quite sure what the hell they are smoking.
Switches off too often in defensive areas but has improved massively under ETH as a player. If we could buy two top FBs, I would jump at the chance and retain both AWB and Dalot as backup, why? Because I don't think either are capable of taking Utd to the next level from a defensive or attacking sense as first choice starters.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
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Didn't ETH do this against Spurs in Jan? Maybe he feels you lose some of Dalot's attacking ability when at LB but you don't really lose much from AWB there. Just a thoery.
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Yeah I think it's something like that but I'm still not a fan. Liverpool targeted AWB in their press - the second goal stemmed from him not being comfortable on his left foot. Other teams will do the same.
Wonder if Martinez might play out there when he's back.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
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Didn't ETH do this against Spurs in Jan? Maybe he feels you lose some of Dalot's attacking ability when at LB but you don't really lose much from AWB there. Just a thoery.
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Yeah I think it's something like that but I'm still not a fan. Liverpool targeted AWB in their press - the second goal stemmed from him not being comfortable on his left foot. Other teams will do the same.
Wonder if Martinez might play out there when he's back.
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Can't see it. Don't think he has the legs to play fullback
Lapses of concentration like early on where he was ball watching instead of picking up Salah are still all too common with him.
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better.
He's always been better than AWB at everything apart from 1on1 defending. AWB is as average as they come. Don't think Dalot is good enough though but he's not bad.
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
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Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Exactly what I thought not sure but felt he would give Salah a more difficult, physical time
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Exactly what I thoughtnot sure but felt he would give Salah a more difficult, physical time
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Maybe, but I think the fact AWB's last two starts have been at left back would suggest it's something more than that.
I want all our players to succeed and do well but I do find that with certain players fans will go out of their way to try and convinse themselves and others that they are doing really well and this is especially the case with Dalot.
Do I dislike him and think he's a bad player, not at all but I don't think he's ever really looked like having the qualities to be a starting fullback for a side who want to be competeing for the major trophies. Technically he's alright, nothing special, he plays with a lot of enthusiasm and heart which all fans love to see. Defensively his positional play is often poor and he loses opponents quite regularly. Offensively he offers very little, somehow people have got the idea that he's good at crossing and shooting based off the fact he's scored a couple goals from distance and made very few assists.
Compare him to other fullbacks at big clubs (Walker, Hakimi, Robertson, Trent, Frimpong, Cancelo, Davies, White, Pavard, Ake, Kounde, Akanji, Mazraoui, Porro, Udogie) and they are all vastly superior defensively or offensively (both for most in fact).
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
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Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
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Dalot was the main right back last season because he's a better player than AWB.
I think both Dalot and AWB have improved and would keep them both.
I would like to see a new CB and defensive midfielder and we will have a good team, top3 for sure imo.
But we lack depth in certain areas.
However I trust Erik and youth, so who is next up from the youth.
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
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Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
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Dalot was the main right back last season because he's a better player than AWB.
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He wasn't the main right back in the second half of last season.
Walker, Hakimi, Robertson, Trent, Frimpong, Cancelo, Davies, White, Pavard, Ake, Kounde, Akanji, Mazraoui, Porro, Udogie)
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How often have you watched half of those players in the last 12 months, out of interest?
I think he’s improved quite a lot, he’s actually impressed me in recent weeks.
However, he’s always been prone to poor decisions when defending. His positioning is generally poor, he often gets caught out leaving players on side and often loses his man.
He isn’t our biggest problem though and whilst I feel two quality full backs would change the dynamic of our team, he has good qualities in the middle third of the pitch.
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 27 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Not really a maybe, is it? AWB was fantastic and didn’t really give Salah an inch (I know he scored but that wasn’t his fault).
AWB has one year left on his deal though, and in 2-3 seasons I expect we will need better than both he and Dalot if we’re to progress as a team.
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Exactly what I thoughtnot sure but felt he would give Salah a more difficult, physical time
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Salah still scored so not sure the man marking tactic worked. AWB was too preoccupied with Salah that he didn't bother stepping out and stopping Quansah from carrying the ball from defense to attack, leading to one of Liverpool's goals. Although there were a number of players just watching who could also be blameworthy. We have so many players lacking in-game intelligence / in-game management.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he’s improved quite a lot, he’s actually impressed me in recent weeks.
However, he’s always been prone to poor decisions when defending. His positioning is generally poor, he often gets caught out leaving players on side and often loses his man.
He isn’t our biggest problem though and whilst I feel two quality full backs would change the dynamic of our team, he has good qualities in the middle third of the pitch.
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If he can improve his defensive awareness / positioning / tracking back / not be such a push over - he would be perfection.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
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Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
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Dalot was the main right back last season because he's a better player than AWB.
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He wasn't the main right back in the second half of last season.
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Swear dalot got injured at the world cup meaning he was out for ages, but still managed more appearances than AWB.
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posted on 19/3/24
He's been good... very good, at times.
I think people forget he is still quite young (turned 25 this week).
He's a good, flexible player... I think we can ultimately do better, but he is a very useful player.
posted on 19/3/24
Darmian has indeed been excellent. Can't remember another player like him at United. Need to keep hold of him.
posted on 19/3/24
He's looked better since Garnacho started playing on the right. They seem to be building similar chemistry to what Shaw and Rashford have had in the past.
He's not world class though but you don't need a team of 11 world class players to be a good side. We need to bolster our defence and midfield this summer though that's for sure. We need more control of the ball and then players like Dalot might actually flourish more.
posted on 19/3/24
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
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Didn't ETH do this against Spurs in Jan? Maybe he feels you lose some of Dalot's attacking ability when at LB but you don't really lose much from AWB there. Just a thoery.
posted on 19/3/24
He's improving season on season and is now a pretty good player. We could probably still upgrade in that position but I also wouldn't put it past Dalot to carry on improving - he seems to have the right mentality about him.
Is also one of very few players in this squad who is consistently available, which you have to appreciate.
I know of some United fans who want us to sell him this summer - not quite sure what the hell they are smoking.
posted on 19/3/24
Switches off too often in defensive areas but has improved massively under ETH as a player. If we could buy two top FBs, I would jump at the chance and retain both AWB and Dalot as backup, why? Because I don't think either are capable of taking Utd to the next level from a defensive or attacking sense as first choice starters.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
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Didn't ETH do this against Spurs in Jan? Maybe he feels you lose some of Dalot's attacking ability when at LB but you don't really lose much from AWB there. Just a thoery.
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Yeah I think it's something like that but I'm still not a fan. Liverpool targeted AWB in their press - the second goal stemmed from him not being comfortable on his left foot. Other teams will do the same.
Wonder if Martinez might play out there when he's back.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
Didnt understand playing AWB at LB over Dalot. And visa versa.
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Didn't ETH do this against Spurs in Jan? Maybe he feels you lose some of Dalot's attacking ability when at LB but you don't really lose much from AWB there. Just a thoery.
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Yeah I think it's something like that but I'm still not a fan. Liverpool targeted AWB in their press - the second goal stemmed from him not being comfortable on his left foot. Other teams will do the same.
Wonder if Martinez might play out there when he's back.
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Can't see it. Don't think he has the legs to play fullback
posted on 19/3/24
Lapses of concentration like early on where he was ball watching instead of picking up Salah are still all too common with him.
posted on 19/3/24
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better.
He's always been better than AWB at everything apart from 1on1 defending. AWB is as average as they come. Don't think Dalot is good enough though but he's not bad.
posted on 19/3/24
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
posted on 19/3/24
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
-----------------
Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Exactly what I thought not sure but felt he would give Salah a more difficult, physical time
posted on 19/3/24
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Exactly what I thoughtnot sure but felt he would give Salah a more difficult, physical time
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Maybe, but I think the fact AWB's last two starts have been at left back would suggest it's something more than that.
posted on 19/3/24
I want all our players to succeed and do well but I do find that with certain players fans will go out of their way to try and convinse themselves and others that they are doing really well and this is especially the case with Dalot.
Do I dislike him and think he's a bad player, not at all but I don't think he's ever really looked like having the qualities to be a starting fullback for a side who want to be competeing for the major trophies. Technically he's alright, nothing special, he plays with a lot of enthusiasm and heart which all fans love to see. Defensively his positional play is often poor and he loses opponents quite regularly. Offensively he offers very little, somehow people have got the idea that he's good at crossing and shooting based off the fact he's scored a couple goals from distance and made very few assists.
Compare him to other fullbacks at big clubs (Walker, Hakimi, Robertson, Trent, Frimpong, Cancelo, Davies, White, Pavard, Ake, Kounde, Akanji, Mazraoui, Porro, Udogie) and they are all vastly superior defensively or offensively (both for most in fact).
posted on 19/3/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
-----------------
Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
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Dalot was the main right back last season because he's a better player than AWB.
posted on 19/3/24
I think both Dalot and AWB have improved and would keep them both.
I would like to see a new CB and defensive midfielder and we will have a good team, top3 for sure imo.
But we lack depth in certain areas.
However I trust Erik and youth, so who is next up from the youth.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
-----------------
Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
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Dalot was the main right back last season because he's a better player than AWB.
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He wasn't the main right back in the second half of last season.
posted on 19/3/24
Walker, Hakimi, Robertson, Trent, Frimpong, Cancelo, Davies, White, Pavard, Ake, Kounde, Akanji, Mazraoui, Porro, Udogie)
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How often have you watched half of those players in the last 12 months, out of interest?
posted on 19/3/24
I think he’s improved quite a lot, he’s actually impressed me in recent weeks.
However, he’s always been prone to poor decisions when defending. His positioning is generally poor, he often gets caught out leaving players on side and often loses his man.
He isn’t our biggest problem though and whilst I feel two quality full backs would change the dynamic of our team, he has good qualities in the middle third of the pitch.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 27 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Not really a maybe, is it? AWB was fantastic and didn’t really give Salah an inch (I know he scored but that wasn’t his fault).
AWB has one year left on his deal though, and in 2-3 seasons I expect we will need better than both he and Dalot if we’re to progress as a team.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 6 minutes ago
Maybe Erik thought that AWB could deal with Salah better defensively than Dalot could.
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Exactly what I thoughtnot sure but felt he would give Salah a more difficult, physical time
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Salah still scored so not sure the man marking tactic worked. AWB was too preoccupied with Salah that he didn't bother stepping out and stopping Quansah from carrying the ball from defense to attack, leading to one of Liverpool's goals. Although there were a number of players just watching who could also be blameworthy. We have so many players lacking in-game intelligence / in-game management.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 14 minutes ago
I think he’s improved quite a lot, he’s actually impressed me in recent weeks.
However, he’s always been prone to poor decisions when defending. His positioning is generally poor, he often gets caught out leaving players on side and often loses his man.
He isn’t our biggest problem though and whilst I feel two quality full backs would change the dynamic of our team, he has good qualities in the middle third of the pitch.
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If he can improve his defensive awareness / positioning / tracking back / not be such a push over - he would be perfection.
posted on 19/3/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 9 minutes ago
Fickle fans. One minute he's worse than AWB the next he's better
-----------------
Maybe there are different fans saying different things?
Or maybe Dalot has genuinely improved to the point where he is better than AWB? Personally I've always felt there isn't much between them, but the last few months I think Dalot's reached a level I'm not sure AWB is capable of.
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Dalot was the main right back last season because he's a better player than AWB.
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He wasn't the main right back in the second half of last season.
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Swear dalot got injured at the world cup meaning he was out for ages, but still managed more appearances than AWB.
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