Why? Is a singular terrorist attack meant to be worth than a generation of terrorism or something?

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 36 seconds ago
Why? Is a singular terrorist attack meant to be worth than a generation of terrorism or something?
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No, it was the fecking question I was asking ffs.

Plenty of avoidance going on here it seems.

There is no avoidance. I’ve answered your question emphatically.

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 5 minutes ago
432,093 civilians have died violent deaths as a direct result of the U.S. post-9/11 wars. An estimated 3.6-3.8 million people have died indirectly in post-9/11 war zones, bringing the total death toll to at least 4.5-4.7 million and counting.

Asking about terrorism

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And out of interest, by direct US involvement you mean the US collaborating with multiple other countries, including the UK, other European super powers and of course various Muslim states right?

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 1 minute ago
There is no avoidance. I’ve answered your question emphatically.
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No you haven't. We were talking about this Russian terrorist attack as a stand alone. I asked have the US been directly responsible for any major terrorist attack this century? You started going on about wars.

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 44 seconds ago
Why? Is a singular terrorist attack meant to be worth than a generation of terrorism or something?
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If you try hard enough, you can link anything you want to anyone you want. There’s definitely a difference between collateral and the direct act of intentionally murdering civilians. Obviously, I’d rather none of it happen, but that’s never going to be the case.

We’re talking about terrorist attacks, so there’s no reason for you to throw in stats that are irrelevant in this case. Especially ones that are unattributable to a specific group.

Terrorism
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

By definition this is what the US have done in the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc

Before that, Vietnam, before that, Korea. America have a long history of committing war crimes and killing civilians in the name of democracy. And they continue their terrorist attacks on a daily basis by finding their biggest proxy in the form of the IDF.

Funding*

I am just going to assume there are none unless an answer comes

432,093 dead civilians is the answer but we already know how little you care about dead civilians depending on where they were born.

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA60... (U1282)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 40 minutes ago
Out of interest and a genuine question, can't say I spend time digging deeper or following the news. Is there any evidence of the US setting up terrorist attacks this century. And I mean genuine evidence, not bob the whistle blower on twitter.
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Why limit it to just this century alone?
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Because, why not? I just wanted to see some examples.
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Weird answer. Your reason for wanting examples from just this century alone is because why not?

Not because it helps your narrative to limit it?

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Terrorism
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

By definition this is what the US have done in the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc

Before that, Vietnam, before that, Korea. America have a long history of committing war crimes and killing civilians in the name of democracy. And they continue their terrorist attacks on a daily basis by finding their biggest proxy in the form of the IDF.
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I’m starting to get a little lost here. What’s this got to do with the attack on Russia? Are you deflecting because your Putin theory is looking dafter by the hour?

comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 5 minutes ago
I am just going to assume there are none unless an answer comes
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That's fine. Go right ahead and do that.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Terrorism
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

By definition this is what the US have done in the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc

Before that, Vietnam, before that, Korea. America have a long history of committing war crimes and killing civilians in the name of democracy. And they continue their terrorist attacks on a daily basis by finding their biggest proxy in the form of the IDF.
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I’m starting to get a little lost here. What’s this got to do with the attack on Russia? Are you deflecting because your Putin theory is looking dafter by the hour?
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You can't really argue with what he's saying though, can you?

Cinci
You also limit your query to terrorist attacks only but other incidences would be enough to demonstrate that the US is capable of something like this. For the record I don't think the US is behind this one.

What about knocking out 7 countries in 5 years? Or is that still a conspiracy theory? A terrorist attack is child's play for someone capable of killing and destroying all those hundreds of millions of people's lives in these countries and creating the current global refugee crisis which is making the west to shift to the political right because of immigration? What did they expect?

comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA60... (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Terrorism
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

By definition this is what the US have done in the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc

Before that, Vietnam, before that, Korea. America have a long history of committing war crimes and killing civilians in the name of democracy. And they continue their terrorist attacks on a daily basis by finding their biggest proxy in the form of the IDF.
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I’m starting to get a little lost here. What’s this got to do with the attack on Russia? Are you deflecting because your Putin theory is looking dafter by the hour?
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You can't really argue with what he's saying though, can you?
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Who is arguing?

It just wasn't the question asked ffs, why is that so difficult to understand.

I shall ask the question again as simply as possible, and keep in mind, I am not trying to be funny or awkward, it is a genuine question as I don't follow news that closely.

What major terrorist attacks on foreign soil have the US been directly responsible for?

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 4 minutes ago
Terrorism
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

By definition this is what the US have done in the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc

Before that, Vietnam, before that, Korea. America have a long history of committing war crimes and killing civilians in the name of democracy. And they continue their terrorist attacks on a daily basis by finding their biggest proxy in the form of the IDF.
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I’m starting to get a little lost here. What’s this got to do with the attack on Russia? Are you deflecting because your Putin theory is looking dafter by the hour?
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I’m answering a question on terrorist acts committed by the US. Sorry if you don’t like the answer 🤷‍♂️

Oh yea by the way I am so DEVASTATED that an evil war criminal might not be responsible for an evil war crime this time what a weirdo

I didn't say anyone is arguing. I was just pointing out that you can't argue with what he said.

I think you should ponder who shot Steve Mitchell in Eastenders

This is also a waste of time which changes nothing but at least you'll find out who shot Steve Mitchell.

comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
I didn't say anyone is arguing. I was just pointing out that you can't argue with what he said.
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It’s another pointless statement though.

What major terrorist attacks on foreign soil have the US been directly responsible for?
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There must be thousands of instances throughout history, especially during the cold war, which it can be argued has never really ended.

The USA is partly or maybe even entirely responsible for the entire concept of Islamic terrorism, leave alone sponsoring it. They helped foment and stabilise Islamic regimes in the middle east, like Afghanistan and Iraq, the latter which they helped remove a democratically elected government and they helped put the Ayatollahs in power.

Yes, they helped put the Ayatollahs in power who are now conveniently giving the US reasons to keep attacking and interfering in the middle east.

In Afghanistan they funded, trained, armed and helped fomented they concept of terrorism and used terrorist cells against Russia's occupation of that country. They helped Afghanistan whoop Russia's ass back to the north, then later the same concepts and regimes they created became America's greatest enemies.

Bush and Osama almost godfather each other's children and had business dealings worth a fortune. Until Osama saw the light, gave it all up and went up a mountain in order to fight the USA which he now realised was the great enemy.

They funded, used and fomented terrorism in almost every single conflict since the second world war, and there have been thousands of those wars. They did it in South America, Africa, the Middle East, Far east, South Asia and basically everywhere on the planet except for white majority territories which somehow we allowed to continue enjoying relative peace and benefiting and getting rich and fat from the exploitation of resources and turmoil in all those places.

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 15 minutes ago
Oh yea by the way I am so DEVASTATED that an evil war criminal might not be responsible for an evil war crime this timewhat a weirdo
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I’m definitely not the weird one here.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Mamba the Chief Disinformation Officer on JA606 (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
I didn't say anyone is arguing. I was just pointing out that you can't argue with what he said.
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It’s another pointless statement though.
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If that was so then many of your comments would also be pointless.

TBF you could argue Putin is complicit if you believe the narrative that the US warned Russia and he personally dismissed it as meddling in the election.