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Rangers fans done with fabio. What an absolute shocker of a deal that was, crippled us for years.
Weird description to avoid admitting you were wrong wolfie. MGW drove forward from midfield laid the ball off to his right, Doherty played a perfect return ball and the damage was done. The ball didn’t shoot off Doherty’s foot it was a pass not a shot! He should get the credit along with mgw for the assist with what was a well executed 1-2
We’ve been on the same forum for many years. Show us one post you’ve made in the last 20 years where you’ve admitted being wrong
Sunday results that saw Liverpool, Arsenal and Rangers all screw up their title hopes. Ross County had never beaten Rangers before. I have seen lots of positive posts by Rangers fans about Fabio and questioning Dessiers who keeps getting picked despite being criticised all season. But Fabio is clearly not worth anywhere near what we paid for him but he will certainly be worth even less as a left winger which is where Rangers have been playing him
Don’t know who’s going to win the Champions League this season but the European team of the year surely has to be Bayer Leverkusen. Won the Bundesliga for the first time ever at the weekend. They are unbeaten in that league all season and are 16 points clear at the top with 5 games left. Xabi Alonso says he will stay with the club next season but I’m sure virtually every club in the world would be happy to take him on if he changed his mind
Thought Doherty was unfortunate, as he tried to intercept the through ball but mis controlled it and it ran into the path of MGW.
To characterise it as "playing the perfect return ball" is quiet frankly pathetic, and remarks like that are totally unnecessary and driven by agendas or fuelled by too much drink. Maybe some people can go to games and still not understand what they're watching?
Doherty played well in the first half and contributed, until he inevitably "ran of steam" in the second half and was substituted on the hour together with Gomes who has played a lot of minutes lately.
Interesting comments by GON after the match where he states "Nelson was absolutely shattered and Pablo exhausted and the players are out on their feet".
Also from GON "Doc makes a decent challenge and it ping pongs around before landing to Danilo"!!!!!!
Maybe an apology is justified from our resident know it all, Mr DJ Mollyknew?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68747568
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Doherty made a timely tackle on MGW. Unfortunately the ball ran kindly for their player to tap in.
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What actually happened was Doherty passed the ball to MGW in his own area and then failed with a tackle to stop him setting up the second goal. Just as last week he passed the ball to Pacqueta in his own area whose cross hit the hand of Kilman for their penalty
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Hadn’t realised you admitted to mistakes wolfie. So do you maintain Doherty was unfortunate with Forest’s second goal yesterday or on reflection do you think him passing to MGW in the Wolves area might have been helpful to Forest?
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Doherty actually intercepted a pass aimed at their #11 and the ball shot of his foot. He then chased after it and tackled MGW. Unfortunately the ball spun off into the path of their player who slotted it home. So to suggest he "passed" the ball to MGW is ridiculous.
All this could have been avoided if Santi Bueno had chested the ball down when having plenty of time to do so, rather than head it away. Even Lemina remonstrated with SB for a bad decision.
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Great observation mate
Echoed here by our manager
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68747568
"Nelson was absolutely shattered and Pablo exhausted and the players are out on their feet".
Nothing at all to do with "running out of steam"
Don’t recall O’Neil saying the team were blown after the Coventry game or difficult to motivate. Just short of fit players. As players come back that will be solved so we’re not on our last legs or out of steam. Every chance we’ll get positive results in some of the remaining games,
As for Forests second goal MGW picked up the ball forty yards out so we were not in danger. The only reason Doherty then needed to put a tackle on him in the area was because he had given him the ball back
So I don’t think GON saying the problem came from the previous phase of play when Bueno cleared his lines is correct. MGW picking the ball up 40 yards out wasn’t when the chance arose, it was when Doherty played the ball to him in the area. Also for the first goal I think putting all the blame on Sa was harsh. MGW should never have had a free header from a corner
So now you know more about it than GON too?
Unbelievable arrogance from you as expected. It seems that you have just started straight back on it today as well?
My advice to you? Watch the highlights when you've sobered up and come back and apologise, try to avoid arguing for arguments sake when you're clearly wrong.
When GON says that the players are "out on their feet" it means just that. Running out of steam and running on empty are similar phrases than mean the same thing. Try to stop thinking about what the situation might be when we get players back, as I was referring to the here and now
By replying to a post you made earlier this morning is me ‘starting back on it’. You’ll have to talk me through the logic of that comment
As I said we are starting to get players back now so I don’t think we’ve run out of steam. Life in the season yet
I wasn’t convinced the appointment of GON was going to be a good appointment but he’s certainly proved me wrong. Of course if he did after match interviews and publicly criticised his players for errors then I don’t think that would be good management so I’m pleased he doesn’t tend to. But in the world of forums, fans tend to do that for him.
Reading this is causing me to run out of steam.
I’m out of steam. But I have a short holiday so I will either recharge or not buy a return ticket
Two points from the last twelve since the Coventry defeat, represents our worst run of results this season.
But, all is good and we are not seeing a drop off in performances and we're not running on empty!!
You'll have to explain that one to me when you get out of rehab
As for your "short holiday", make it a long one and the latter of the two suggestions will do fine.
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As for your "short holiday", make it a long one and the latter of the two suggestions will do fine.
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Surprised you haven’t noticed a drop off in performances while we’ve had a whole forward line out injured. As I’ve said, I don’t think we’ve looked as good in that period.
Keep up the comments about me and alcohol. I guess that’s you admitting that the garbage you write is when you are stone cold sober. How scary is that
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Surprised you haven’t noticed a drop off in performances while we’ve had a whole forward line out injured. As I’ve said, I don’t think we’ve looked as good in that period.
Keep up the comments about me and alcohol. I guess that’s you admitting that the garbage you write is when you are stone cold sober. How scary is that
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So, now you admit (after 24 hours of contesting it) that we've seen a drop off in performances and we've "ran out of steam" recently after having several players out injured?
Finally!!
No need to apologise though.
If we’d run out of steam I’d be very pessimistic but when we get players back like Cunha, Hwang and Ait Nouri we’ll be fine and will show there’s plenty of life left.
I keep saying the same thing but I know it’s difficult for you to understand so no need for you to apologise.
Of course if you are correct and we have run out of steam, are down about losing to Coventry and O’Neill is finding them difficult to motivate then even the games against Bournemouth, Luton and Palace might not bring much joy.
Embarrassing, even by your standards!
Just out of interest 🔧 and to avoid cross purposes
What do you think is meant by the phrase "running out of steam'?
Happy to explain that to you to avoid your embarrassment.
In this context, if a player is out of steam then they are nackered, need a break , need a rest, need a holiday, need to recuperate. So having other players come back from injury isn’t going to help them, they need to get recharged themselves.
I don’t think we are at that stage and I think once the likes of Cunha, Hwang and Ait Nouri are fit I think the whole team will look much better. Even with Cunha and Hwang playing 90 minutes between them on Saturday we got a result that most folks said they would be happy with before the game.
Also you think the Coventry game got the team down and that O’Neil will find it hard to motivate them. I don’t think lack of motivation is a problem at all with this group.
Goldi, can you put the new match thread up early?
Ah, that's the problem then and I can understand your confusion.
I wasn't talking about any particular player. I was talking about the team and our momentum in general.
When do you start your much needed short break? Sooner the better
In the meantime, read for comprehension or ask for the context to be explained if you're struggling again. 🤣🤣
Just to clarify the reason the team lost momentum is because we’ve had a whole forward line injured, no other reason. Same would have happened to most clubs. When those players start coming back we will be fine because despite what you think the Coventry game was forgotten about soon after it happened and this isn’t a squad lacking in motivation.
The results aren’t a consequence of running out of steam, it’s because the likes of Fraser, Chirewa, Chiwome aren’t as good as the players they replaced and neither were Lemina and Doherty when tried as forwards
It’s about players not about steam
Interested to read that Wolves have so far used 26 players this season. Despite our small squad that’s more players used than 5 other Premier League clubs including Man City and Arsenal.
The problem of course is that the difference in standard between our first choice players and their replacements is far bigger than most, maybe all other clubs, thanks to our fire sale last summer and our loaning out of fringe players.
The depth of quality in our squad is really shallow
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posted on 15/4/24
https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/fabio-silva.270457/
Rangers fans done with fabio. What an absolute shocker of a deal that was, crippled us for years.
posted on 15/4/24
Weird description to avoid admitting you were wrong wolfie. MGW drove forward from midfield laid the ball off to his right, Doherty played a perfect return ball and the damage was done. The ball didn’t shoot off Doherty’s foot it was a pass not a shot! He should get the credit along with mgw for the assist with what was a well executed 1-2
We’ve been on the same forum for many years. Show us one post you’ve made in the last 20 years where you’ve admitted being wrong
posted on 15/4/24
Sunday results that saw Liverpool, Arsenal and Rangers all screw up their title hopes. Ross County had never beaten Rangers before. I have seen lots of positive posts by Rangers fans about Fabio and questioning Dessiers who keeps getting picked despite being criticised all season. But Fabio is clearly not worth anywhere near what we paid for him but he will certainly be worth even less as a left winger which is where Rangers have been playing him
posted on 15/4/24
Don’t know who’s going to win the Champions League this season but the European team of the year surely has to be Bayer Leverkusen. Won the Bundesliga for the first time ever at the weekend. They are unbeaten in that league all season and are 16 points clear at the top with 5 games left. Xabi Alonso says he will stay with the club next season but I’m sure virtually every club in the world would be happy to take him on if he changed his mind
posted on 15/4/24
Thought Doherty was unfortunate, as he tried to intercept the through ball but mis controlled it and it ran into the path of MGW.
To characterise it as "playing the perfect return ball" is quiet frankly pathetic, and remarks like that are totally unnecessary and driven by agendas or fuelled by too much drink. Maybe some people can go to games and still not understand what they're watching?
Doherty played well in the first half and contributed, until he inevitably "ran of steam" in the second half and was substituted on the hour together with Gomes who has played a lot of minutes lately.
Interesting comments by GON after the match where he states "Nelson was absolutely shattered and Pablo exhausted and the players are out on their feet".
Also from GON "Doc makes a decent challenge and it ping pongs around before landing to Danilo"!!!!!!
Maybe an apology is justified from our resident know it all, Mr DJ Mollyknew?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68747568
posted on 15/4/24
comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted 6 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted about 10 hours ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 18 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted 26 minutes ago
Doherty made a timely tackle on MGW. Unfortunately the ball ran kindly for their player to tap in.
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What actually happened was Doherty passed the ball to MGW in his own area and then failed with a tackle to stop him setting up the second goal. Just as last week he passed the ball to Pacqueta in his own area whose cross hit the hand of Kilman for their penalty
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Hadn’t realised you admitted to mistakes wolfie. So do you maintain Doherty was unfortunate with Forest’s second goal yesterday or on reflection do you think him passing to MGW in the Wolves area might have been helpful to Forest?
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Doherty actually intercepted a pass aimed at their #11 and the ball shot of his foot. He then chased after it and tackled MGW. Unfortunately the ball spun off into the path of their player who slotted it home. So to suggest he "passed" the ball to MGW is ridiculous.
All this could have been avoided if Santi Bueno had chested the ball down when having plenty of time to do so, rather than head it away. Even Lemina remonstrated with SB for a bad decision.
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Great observation mate
Echoed here by our manager
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68747568
posted on 15/4/24
"Nelson was absolutely shattered and Pablo exhausted and the players are out on their feet".
Nothing at all to do with "running out of steam"
posted on 15/4/24
Don’t recall O’Neil saying the team were blown after the Coventry game or difficult to motivate. Just short of fit players. As players come back that will be solved so we’re not on our last legs or out of steam. Every chance we’ll get positive results in some of the remaining games,
As for Forests second goal MGW picked up the ball forty yards out so we were not in danger. The only reason Doherty then needed to put a tackle on him in the area was because he had given him the ball back
So I don’t think GON saying the problem came from the previous phase of play when Bueno cleared his lines is correct. MGW picking the ball up 40 yards out wasn’t when the chance arose, it was when Doherty played the ball to him in the area. Also for the first goal I think putting all the blame on Sa was harsh. MGW should never have had a free header from a corner
posted on 15/4/24
So now you know more about it than GON too?
Unbelievable arrogance from you as expected. It seems that you have just started straight back on it today as well?
My advice to you? Watch the highlights when you've sobered up and come back and apologise, try to avoid arguing for arguments sake when you're clearly wrong.
When GON says that the players are "out on their feet" it means just that. Running out of steam and running on empty are similar phrases than mean the same thing. Try to stop thinking about what the situation might be when we get players back, as I was referring to the here and now
posted on 15/4/24
By replying to a post you made earlier this morning is me ‘starting back on it’. You’ll have to talk me through the logic of that comment
As I said we are starting to get players back now so I don’t think we’ve run out of steam. Life in the season yet
I wasn’t convinced the appointment of GON was going to be a good appointment but he’s certainly proved me wrong. Of course if he did after match interviews and publicly criticised his players for errors then I don’t think that would be good management so I’m pleased he doesn’t tend to. But in the world of forums, fans tend to do that for him.
posted on 15/4/24
Reading this is causing me to run out of steam.
posted on 15/4/24
I’m out of steam. But I have a short holiday so I will either recharge or not buy a return ticket
posted on 15/4/24
Two points from the last twelve since the Coventry defeat, represents our worst run of results this season.
But, all is good and we are not seeing a drop off in performances and we're not running on empty!!
You'll have to explain that one to me when you get out of rehab
posted on 15/4/24
As for your "short holiday", make it a long one and the latter of the two suggestions will do fine.
posted on 15/4/24
comment by wolfieinFL (U16306)
posted 7 seconds ago
As for your "short holiday", make it a long one and the latter of the two suggestions will do fine.
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posted on 15/4/24
Surprised you haven’t noticed a drop off in performances while we’ve had a whole forward line out injured. As I’ve said, I don’t think we’ve looked as good in that period.
Keep up the comments about me and alcohol. I guess that’s you admitting that the garbage you write is when you are stone cold sober. How scary is that
posted on 15/4/24
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 17 minutes ago
Surprised you haven’t noticed a drop off in performances while we’ve had a whole forward line out injured. As I’ve said, I don’t think we’ve looked as good in that period.
Keep up the comments about me and alcohol. I guess that’s you admitting that the garbage you write is when you are stone cold sober. How scary is that
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So, now you admit (after 24 hours of contesting it) that we've seen a drop off in performances and we've "ran out of steam" recently after having several players out injured?
Finally!!
No need to apologise though.
posted on 15/4/24
If we’d run out of steam I’d be very pessimistic but when we get players back like Cunha, Hwang and Ait Nouri we’ll be fine and will show there’s plenty of life left.
I keep saying the same thing but I know it’s difficult for you to understand so no need for you to apologise.
Of course if you are correct and we have run out of steam, are down about losing to Coventry and O’Neill is finding them difficult to motivate then even the games against Bournemouth, Luton and Palace might not bring much joy.
posted on 15/4/24
Embarrassing, even by your standards!
posted on 15/4/24
Just out of interest 🔧 and to avoid cross purposes
What do you think is meant by the phrase "running out of steam'?
posted on 15/4/24
Happy to explain that to you to avoid your embarrassment.
In this context, if a player is out of steam then they are nackered, need a break , need a rest, need a holiday, need to recuperate. So having other players come back from injury isn’t going to help them, they need to get recharged themselves.
I don’t think we are at that stage and I think once the likes of Cunha, Hwang and Ait Nouri are fit I think the whole team will look much better. Even with Cunha and Hwang playing 90 minutes between them on Saturday we got a result that most folks said they would be happy with before the game.
Also you think the Coventry game got the team down and that O’Neil will find it hard to motivate them. I don’t think lack of motivation is a problem at all with this group.
posted on 15/4/24
Goldi, can you put the new match thread up early?
posted on 15/4/24
Ah, that's the problem then and I can understand your confusion.
I wasn't talking about any particular player. I was talking about the team and our momentum in general.
When do you start your much needed short break? Sooner the better
In the meantime, read for comprehension or ask for the context to be explained if you're struggling again. 🤣🤣
posted on 15/4/24
Just to clarify the reason the team lost momentum is because we’ve had a whole forward line injured, no other reason. Same would have happened to most clubs. When those players start coming back we will be fine because despite what you think the Coventry game was forgotten about soon after it happened and this isn’t a squad lacking in motivation.
The results aren’t a consequence of running out of steam, it’s because the likes of Fraser, Chirewa, Chiwome aren’t as good as the players they replaced and neither were Lemina and Doherty when tried as forwards
It’s about players not about steam
posted on 15/4/24
Interested to read that Wolves have so far used 26 players this season. Despite our small squad that’s more players used than 5 other Premier League clubs including Man City and Arsenal.
The problem of course is that the difference in standard between our first choice players and their replacements is far bigger than most, maybe all other clubs, thanks to our fire sale last summer and our loaning out of fringe players.
The depth of quality in our squad is really shallow
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