comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 14 seconds ago
Foden hasn't pulled up any trees for England though.
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Which is a shame for England as imo right now he’s a top 3 player in Europe
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Let's not forget how young Foden is. There's plenty of time for him to grow into his international career.
I think a factor in his more modest profile for the national team is that he thrives in a possession-dominant side, whereas Southgate's England is more defence-first/counter-attacking, which suits the pace and athleticism of an inferior talent like Rashford.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate Palmer highly and he's had a better season but I'm not yet convinced he's as good as Saka or has as high a ceiling. It's not unusual that players are particularly productive in their breakout seasons when teams haven't got wise to their threat and developed strategies to neutralise them, and for their effectiveness to dip a bit after that - and the hype to die down correspondingly. Actually, if you look at non-penalty goals, Palmer (as the main attacking outlet for Chelsea) has 11, while Saka has 9, so they are pretty close in output. Saka has been consistently classy in the PL and for England for two or three seasons, and he has plenty of experience in high stakes matches. I think he's ahead of Palmer at this point.
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I just think Palmer affects the game more than Saka in general. If Palmer isn't scoring, he's still pivotal to every Chelsea attack, whereas Saka can have games he goes missing a little.
You're right that teams may find ways of handling Palmer better, but he doesn't really have a style of play that's easy to combat. He's one of those who finds space so well and seems to have a knack for being in the right place.
Half expect Saka to miss the Euros with injury so chance for Palmer and Foden to step up.
Not for this Euros really, but Wharton vs Mainoo could be a battle to partner Rice. Wharton has looked very good in the last couple of Palace games I have seen. Really stepped up to PL seamlessly.
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
"I just think Palmer affects the game more than Saka in general."
Not sure about that, they have slightly different roles like Robbing says and Chelsea more often than not don't win and are rubbish whereas Arsenal and Saka are consistently performing well.
Palmer (pen) will be absolutely crucial to England if
Kane (pen)
Saka (pen)
Toney (pen)
Watkins (pen)
Maddison (pen)
Rashford (pen)
Get injured.
Seriously though, he does remind me of a young Frank Lampard, making those runs from outside the box to inside, to score, from the spot.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 5 minutes ago
"I just think Palmer affects the game more than Saka in general."
Not sure about that, they have slightly different roles like Robbing says and Chelsea more often than not don't win and are rubbish whereas Arsenal and Saka are consistently performing well.
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Stick Saka in that Chelsea team and see how he does.
Saka is a great player, don't get me wrong, I just think Palmer is a better playmaker and right now he's affecting games a lot more than Saka. I'm sure what there is to argue with there.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Personally I think Foden, Bellingham and Saka have all been better than Palmer this season but all 4 have been brilliant. This is Palmer's first season though so lets see how he progresses.
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how has saka been better? hes largely been quite average but has been productive. Over 90 minute matches palmer has done a lot more. Saka also in a much much better team with odegaard and co feeding him.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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on the flip side, he has to create all his goals himself. And would get higher numbers elsewhere.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Personally I think Foden, Bellingham and Saka have all been better than Palmer this season but all 4 have been brilliant. This is Palmer's first season though so lets see how he progresses.
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how has saka been better? hes largely been quite average but has been productive. Over 90 minute matches palmer has done a lot more. Saka also in a much much better team with odegaard and co feeding him.
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I agree, Palmer is performing both Saka and Odegaards roles within the Chelsea attack this season.
I can only assume people don't actually watch games, but only highlights.
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 15 minutes ago
The only thing England are missing from being a World Cup winning side (apart from having Southgate) is a top midfielder to sit next to Rice in that formation. Bellingham should be playing ahead of that two.
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A midfielder is the least of England's worries. Maguire is first choice centre back. Chilwell and Shaw are always injured and the only two good left backs England have and Safegate brings 37 right backs in his squad but plays the worst one, Trippier. The defence is the obvious issue, not the midfield. Regardless if you weren't Safegate you'd have Rice sitting and Bellingham and Foden ahead of him. That's an excellent midfield. You'd then have Saka on the right and Grealish on the left who are both good at helping out defensively also. Another options is TAA next to Rice and Foden on the left.
There are many options in midfield and attack. Defence is clearly the issue and that's the area Safegate relies on the most with the safety first approach.
45 million for Palmer.
89 million for Antony.
Rotten club to the core.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Personally I think Foden, Bellingham and Saka have all been better than Palmer this season but all 4 have been brilliant. This is Palmer's first season though so lets see how he progresses.
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how has saka been better? hes largely been quite average but has been productive. Over 90 minute matches palmer has done a lot more. Saka also in a much much better team with odegaard and co feeding him.
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I agree, Palmer is performing both Saka and Odegaards roles within the Chelsea attack this season.
I can only assume people don't actually watch games, but only highlights.
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Also, and I think XG is a bit crap but palmer is outperforming his XG by 5 (thats including pens btw), saka is by 0.4 or something. So palmer is scoring a lot harder chances
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
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I don’t feel any of this alters the fact that the team is set up around Palmer.
It was the same with Grealish at Villa and even Shaqiri at Stoke. The elite clubs can’t and don’t set up like that, and when they make the move they are no where near as productive.
Either way I’d still not want Palmer on the right over Saka for England at this time.
We mustn't forget Gordon too, he's performing very well but most importantly, he does a great job for the team and I think in international football you can definitely have too make "stars".
A willing runner, direct, decent at finding the striker. A shoe in over Rashford but I think I'd rather see him on the left tha, Foden....
--------------Rice--------
-------Foden----Bellingham
Palmer------------------Gordon
--------------Kane
I know it isn't a formation Southgate is likely to play, but you could play for great football with that lineup
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
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I don’t feel any of this alters the fact that the team is set up around Palmer.
It was the same with Grealish at Villa and even Shaqiri at Stoke. The elite clubs can’t and don’t set up like that, and when they make the move they are no where near as productive.
Either way I’d still not want Palmer on the right over Saka for England at this time.
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How are Chelsea "set up" around Palmer then?
It makes no sense. He's basically making or scoring every goal Chelsea score at the moment, and he's scoring every type of goal possible.
Anyway, my bigger worry for England isn't scoring goals, we have a long list of players who can do that, it's making the chances.
Chelsea would sell, but it would take a huge offer. I'm not sure we have £80m for a 21 year old right now, give the other needs of the squad.
It’s makes perfect sense. He is given positional freedom within the system allowing him greater opportunity to score and create. It’s not exactly a new concept and it just takes one look at his heat map to show this.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
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I don’t feel any of this alters the fact that the team is set up around Palmer.
It was the same with Grealish at Villa and even Shaqiri at Stoke. The elite clubs can’t and don’t set up like that, and when they make the move they are no where near as productive.
Either way I’d still not want Palmer on the right over Saka for England at this time.
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in no way is it set up for palmer. Just because he fell into our laps and turned out to be class.
We havent changed the way we set up from last year. He's even been on right wing. Just because he bails the team out doesnt mean the teams built around him. We try and play down both sides and centrally.
What Robbing is saying. If you did put Saka into Palmer’s role and also let him take all penalties im sure he’d have bigger numbers. But at Arsenal he is working in a cohesive team which produced a far greater attacking threat that is spread amongst several players.
Palmer is having an excellent season but let’s see how he does in the future. Saka meanwhile has been producing at a high level for several seasons now.
What Robbing is saying. If you did put Saka into Palmer’s role and also let him take all penalties im sure he’d have bigger numbers.
which is nonsense imo.
anyone would do well to score 10 goals in this sh!tshow
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
Personally I'd still stick with Saka for England. I think he brings something a little bit different in terms of direct running, the likes of Foden and Palmer are a bit cleverer with ball at feet, knit the play together better but you need a mix.
I do think Saka is just being overplayed by Arteta though. I saw a stat about Saka hitting 20k mins of football by the age of 22. For context Salah was on 44k mins at 31 and he plays almost every game for us and Egypt. That's than the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe, Haaland at 22.
To have the likes of Bellingham, Foden, Saka, Palmer, Kane - it's a great problem for Southgate to have. My predicted line up for the first game of the Euros:
--------Rice---Henderson---------
-----------Bellingham------------
Saka------Kane---------Rashford
Because Southgate is a n0bhead.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
What Robbing is saying. If you did put Saka into Palmer’s role and also let him take all penalties im sure he’d have bigger numbers. But at Arsenal he is working in a cohesive team which produced a far greater attacking threat that is spread amongst several players.
Palmer is having an excellent season but let’s see how he does in the future. Saka meanwhile has been producing at a high level for several seasons now.
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Saka has probably earnt his place in the side, so I'm not going to argue that one too much. I think it's fair to say Palmers had a better season though
By the way, 5 of Saka's 14 goals are penalties.
Saka's stats this season really aren't that impressive, and his minutes per goal are almost double that of Palmer, Gordons is also better (and he doesn't take penalties).
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posted on 16/4/24
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 14 seconds ago
Foden hasn't pulled up any trees for England though.
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Which is a shame for England as imo right now he’s a top 3 player in Europe
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Let's not forget how young Foden is. There's plenty of time for him to grow into his international career.
I think a factor in his more modest profile for the national team is that he thrives in a possession-dominant side, whereas Southgate's England is more defence-first/counter-attacking, which suits the pace and athleticism of an inferior talent like Rashford.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 51 seconds ago
I rate Palmer highly and he's had a better season but I'm not yet convinced he's as good as Saka or has as high a ceiling. It's not unusual that players are particularly productive in their breakout seasons when teams haven't got wise to their threat and developed strategies to neutralise them, and for their effectiveness to dip a bit after that - and the hype to die down correspondingly. Actually, if you look at non-penalty goals, Palmer (as the main attacking outlet for Chelsea) has 11, while Saka has 9, so they are pretty close in output. Saka has been consistently classy in the PL and for England for two or three seasons, and he has plenty of experience in high stakes matches. I think he's ahead of Palmer at this point.
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I just think Palmer affects the game more than Saka in general. If Palmer isn't scoring, he's still pivotal to every Chelsea attack, whereas Saka can have games he goes missing a little.
You're right that teams may find ways of handling Palmer better, but he doesn't really have a style of play that's easy to combat. He's one of those who finds space so well and seems to have a knack for being in the right place.
posted on 16/4/24
Half expect Saka to miss the Euros with injury so chance for Palmer and Foden to step up.
Not for this Euros really, but Wharton vs Mainoo could be a battle to partner Rice. Wharton has looked very good in the last couple of Palace games I have seen. Really stepped up to PL seamlessly.
posted on 16/4/24
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
posted on 16/4/24
"I just think Palmer affects the game more than Saka in general."
Not sure about that, they have slightly different roles like Robbing says and Chelsea more often than not don't win and are rubbish whereas Arsenal and Saka are consistently performing well.
posted on 16/4/24
Palmer (pen) will be absolutely crucial to England if
Kane (pen)
Saka (pen)
Toney (pen)
Watkins (pen)
Maddison (pen)
Rashford (pen)
Get injured.
Seriously though, he does remind me of a young Frank Lampard, making those runs from outside the box to inside, to score, from the spot.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 5 minutes ago
"I just think Palmer affects the game more than Saka in general."
Not sure about that, they have slightly different roles like Robbing says and Chelsea more often than not don't win and are rubbish whereas Arsenal and Saka are consistently performing well.
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Stick Saka in that Chelsea team and see how he does.
Saka is a great player, don't get me wrong, I just think Palmer is a better playmaker and right now he's affecting games a lot more than Saka. I'm sure what there is to argue with there.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Personally I think Foden, Bellingham and Saka have all been better than Palmer this season but all 4 have been brilliant. This is Palmer's first season though so lets see how he progresses.
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how has saka been better? hes largely been quite average but has been productive. Over 90 minute matches palmer has done a lot more. Saka also in a much much better team with odegaard and co feeding him.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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on the flip side, he has to create all his goals himself. And would get higher numbers elsewhere.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Personally I think Foden, Bellingham and Saka have all been better than Palmer this season but all 4 have been brilliant. This is Palmer's first season though so lets see how he progresses.
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how has saka been better? hes largely been quite average but has been productive. Over 90 minute matches palmer has done a lot more. Saka also in a much much better team with odegaard and co feeding him.
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I agree, Palmer is performing both Saka and Odegaards roles within the Chelsea attack this season.
I can only assume people don't actually watch games, but only highlights.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 15 minutes ago
The only thing England are missing from being a World Cup winning side (apart from having Southgate) is a top midfielder to sit next to Rice in that formation. Bellingham should be playing ahead of that two.
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A midfielder is the least of England's worries. Maguire is first choice centre back. Chilwell and Shaw are always injured and the only two good left backs England have and Safegate brings 37 right backs in his squad but plays the worst one, Trippier. The defence is the obvious issue, not the midfield. Regardless if you weren't Safegate you'd have Rice sitting and Bellingham and Foden ahead of him. That's an excellent midfield. You'd then have Saka on the right and Grealish on the left who are both good at helping out defensively also. Another options is TAA next to Rice and Foden on the left.
There are many options in midfield and attack. Defence is clearly the issue and that's the area Safegate relies on the most with the safety first approach.
posted on 16/4/24
45 million for Palmer.
89 million for Antony.
Rotten club to the core.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Personally I think Foden, Bellingham and Saka have all been better than Palmer this season but all 4 have been brilliant. This is Palmer's first season though so lets see how he progresses.
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how has saka been better? hes largely been quite average but has been productive. Over 90 minute matches palmer has done a lot more. Saka also in a much much better team with odegaard and co feeding him.
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I agree, Palmer is performing both Saka and Odegaards roles within the Chelsea attack this season.
I can only assume people don't actually watch games, but only highlights.
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Also, and I think XG is a bit crap but palmer is outperforming his XG by 5 (thats including pens btw), saka is by 0.4 or something. So palmer is scoring a lot harder chances
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
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I don’t feel any of this alters the fact that the team is set up around Palmer.
It was the same with Grealish at Villa and even Shaqiri at Stoke. The elite clubs can’t and don’t set up like that, and when they make the move they are no where near as productive.
Either way I’d still not want Palmer on the right over Saka for England at this time.
posted on 16/4/24
We mustn't forget Gordon too, he's performing very well but most importantly, he does a great job for the team and I think in international football you can definitely have too make "stars".
A willing runner, direct, decent at finding the striker. A shoe in over Rashford but I think I'd rather see him on the left tha, Foden....
--------------Rice--------
-------Foden----Bellingham
Palmer------------------Gordon
--------------Kane
I know it isn't a formation Southgate is likely to play, but you could play for great football with that lineup
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
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I don’t feel any of this alters the fact that the team is set up around Palmer.
It was the same with Grealish at Villa and even Shaqiri at Stoke. The elite clubs can’t and don’t set up like that, and when they make the move they are no where near as productive.
Either way I’d still not want Palmer on the right over Saka for England at this time.
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How are Chelsea "set up" around Palmer then?
It makes no sense. He's basically making or scoring every goal Chelsea score at the moment, and he's scoring every type of goal possible.
Anyway, my bigger worry for England isn't scoring goals, we have a long list of players who can do that, it's making the chances.
posted on 16/4/24
Chelsea would sell, but it would take a huge offer. I'm not sure we have £80m for a 21 year old right now, give the other needs of the squad.
posted on 16/4/24
It’s makes perfect sense. He is given positional freedom within the system allowing him greater opportunity to score and create. It’s not exactly a new concept and it just takes one look at his heat map to show this.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think Chelsea build their team around Palmer and he gets an awful lot of freedom as a result.
We’ve seen this so many times before, and I severely doubt he’d be getting those numbers at City or Arsenal.
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Arsenal don't really have any stand outs in terms of goalscoring do they, goals from everywhere.
Palmers currently join top scorer in the league though, and 4th most assists (9). Pretty incredible for a breakthrough season at a club in disarray, for a player of his ilk too. He isn't just a stat padder.
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I don’t feel any of this alters the fact that the team is set up around Palmer.
It was the same with Grealish at Villa and even Shaqiri at Stoke. The elite clubs can’t and don’t set up like that, and when they make the move they are no where near as productive.
Either way I’d still not want Palmer on the right over Saka for England at this time.
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in no way is it set up for palmer. Just because he fell into our laps and turned out to be class.
We havent changed the way we set up from last year. He's even been on right wing. Just because he bails the team out doesnt mean the teams built around him. We try and play down both sides and centrally.
posted on 16/4/24
What Robbing is saying. If you did put Saka into Palmer’s role and also let him take all penalties im sure he’d have bigger numbers. But at Arsenal he is working in a cohesive team which produced a far greater attacking threat that is spread amongst several players.
Palmer is having an excellent season but let’s see how he does in the future. Saka meanwhile has been producing at a high level for several seasons now.
posted on 16/4/24
What Robbing is saying. If you did put Saka into Palmer’s role and also let him take all penalties im sure he’d have bigger numbers.
which is nonsense imo.
anyone would do well to score 10 goals in this sh!tshow
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
posted on 16/4/24
Personally I'd still stick with Saka for England. I think he brings something a little bit different in terms of direct running, the likes of Foden and Palmer are a bit cleverer with ball at feet, knit the play together better but you need a mix.
I do think Saka is just being overplayed by Arteta though. I saw a stat about Saka hitting 20k mins of football by the age of 22. For context Salah was on 44k mins at 31 and he plays almost every game for us and Egypt. That's than the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe, Haaland at 22.
To have the likes of Bellingham, Foden, Saka, Palmer, Kane - it's a great problem for Southgate to have. My predicted line up for the first game of the Euros:
--------Rice---Henderson---------
-----------Bellingham------------
Saka------Kane---------Rashford
Because Southgate is a n0bhead.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
What Robbing is saying. If you did put Saka into Palmer’s role and also let him take all penalties im sure he’d have bigger numbers. But at Arsenal he is working in a cohesive team which produced a far greater attacking threat that is spread amongst several players.
Palmer is having an excellent season but let’s see how he does in the future. Saka meanwhile has been producing at a high level for several seasons now.
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Saka has probably earnt his place in the side, so I'm not going to argue that one too much. I think it's fair to say Palmers had a better season though
By the way, 5 of Saka's 14 goals are penalties.
Saka's stats this season really aren't that impressive, and his minutes per goal are almost double that of Palmer, Gordons is also better (and he doesn't take penalties).
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