Saka is world class at winning pens and freekicks, which plays into England's strengths.
If Palmer can add that to his game then he's gonna be pushing for a place.
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City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
But we’ve also been awful in recent years and have been over reliant on Bruno or Rashford who have at times had great numbers but I’d still pick Saka over both.
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City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Which is surely an overlook? considering kovacic, doku, grealish get minutes and lewis.
Not saying he would have played all the time but surely he would started to get a look in? especially with scoring in the super cup.
"Saka is world class at winning pens and freekicks, which plays into England's strengths."
Sounds silly, but it's a fair point. England create feck all in open play.
Grealish should be a shoe in on the left then too
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City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
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Palmer has clearly made the right choice. If Chelsea don't go anywhere in the next season or two he can always leave.
He's playing with a freedom Pep would never allow him too.
What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
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Palmer has clearly made the right choice. If Chelsea don't go anywhere in the next season or two he can always leave.
He's playing with a freedom Pep would never allow him too.
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Which means he develops as an individual but not so much as a team player, which is what he would have honed at City, with a little more patience and then as an individual, progress would have come, like it's doing now for Foden.
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What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
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Palmer has clearly made the right choice. If Chelsea don't go anywhere in the next season or two he can always leave.
He's playing with a freedom Pep would never allow him too.
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Which means he develops as an individual but not so much as a team player, which is what he would have honed at City, with a little more patience and then as an individual, progress would have come, like it's doing now for Foden.
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Not many managers require so much discipline from flair players as Pep.
Imagine Klopp did this with Salah, he'd have about 10 goals a season.
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What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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That's because Pep wants to mould players into team players first and foremost and once they get that they are then allowed to express themselves in the right moments. It's about developing an intelligence of when to take risks.
It will be fun when the pundits are analysing England's 2-1 defeat to Germany and asking why there is not more of a goal threat. They discuss the number of goals scored around the team this season and then it dawns upon them that the majority were pens. Then they suddenly realise that that only results in one goal when all of those players are playing in the same team together cos only one player can take the pen. Interesting.
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What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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hmmm not sure I agree with that. KDB probably plays more risky passes more often. Foden has had the exact same shots per game.
i think he just has to take the responsibility, rather than hes given the freedom.
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posted 57 seconds ago
What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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That's because Pep wants to mould players into team players first and foremost and once they get that they are then allowed to express themselves in the right moments. It's about developing an intelligence of when to take risks.
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Try counting how often Grealish takes on a man and goes passed him into a threatening position, and compare that to how often he threatens to go down the line, only to come inside, play and move. The latter is probably 80% at least.
Doku is going the same way. His output has dried up the more coached he has been. This isnt a criticism of Pep as who can criticise Pep? but it is his way which may extract the maximum from a team but not necessarily the individual.
From what i have seen of Palmer, his ability to freely attack does not come at the cost of his defensive/team responsibilities.
City/Pep defo dropped a bolllock selling him
But the set up at City is far less forgiving. Palmer is given the freedom to do these things at a team who more than often don't win and perform poorly.
KDB is arguably the best creative player on the planet so when he makes risky passes he will more than likely succeed and doesn't have the luxury of being able to fail as much because of the demands.
I agree you could change freedom for responsibility but the point is the responsibility as Chelsea now is far lower than anything at City or Arsenal currently.
He's triving and good for him, he made a good choice moving to help his development but I think you can't easily compare his stats to players at teams who are performing week in week out and who have far more outlets offensively.
Yeah think we will just have to agree to disagree.
City can afford to take more risks as they are a hugely superior team and win the ball back quickly.
If Palmer doesnt affect the game, as you mention, we lose.
A lot more pressure on him. city players can have lulls and poor performances and still get a win.
Atm if palmer doesnt do a madness chelsea lose.
He doesnt have the luxury to fail for that reason whether as kdb etc do.
But like I said, we had it similar with both Bruno and Rashford at times where we were overly reliant on them scoring/assisting. But I think you put either in a City/Arsenal side and you will see far lower numbers, you'd also see Rashford on the bench all the time.
Pep told Palmer that Mahrez was leaving and would get plenty of opportunities on the right.
His decision to leave, the promise of a massive contract at Chelsea probably helped as well.
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But like I said, we had it similar with both Bruno and Rashford at times where we were overly reliant on them scoring/assisting. But I think you put either in a City/Arsenal side and you will see far lower numbers, you'd also see Rashford on the bench all the time.
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fair enough. Though i'd disagree. As seen by players like haaland whos numbers increased once leaving molde , salah, mane and many other players I think once they joined better teams he'd go that way. A lot easier to score in a better team as a forward player. Suarez, neymar and messi etc all fed each other.
Its not like our players are feeding him. He has to beat several players most the time to get a goal.
If he was the sole focal point and the team were looking for him constantly, like watkins to use a poor example, then i'd be more inclined to agree.
It’s not like our players are feeding him. He has to beat several players most the time to get a goal.
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Especially when it comes to taking penalties
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It’s not like our players are feeding him. He has to beat several players most the time to get a goal.
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Especially when it comes to taking penalties
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That's a good one boris, well done.
Palmer is outperforming his XG by 5 (thats including pens btw), saka is by 0.4 or something. So palmer is scoring a lot harder chances
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If you listen to serious stats people, they will emphasise that outperforming/underperforming xG is only a relevant metric if you have a big sample size. When players like Messi and Mbappé consistently outperform their xG over years, it's evidence that they're elite finishers. That's very rare. On the other hand, you get lots of instances of a player significantly outperforming their xG in one season, and it turns out to be a statistical blip, and they quickly revert to mean. A single season is a tiny sample, and the range of outcomes from a season's worth of shots depend wildly vary depending on whether a player catches the ball extra sweetly / whether they benefit from keeping errors or lucking deflections (like the winner against United!) a few times more than usual. Again, this isn't to argue that Palmer isn't an excellent player, just that having an edge in non-penalty goals / goals:xG ratio in one season is within the margin of error.
I said it was a bit of a silly stat. however over 20 goals and a season is still quite a sample size.
Maybe I am not the most balanced person to speak about this, but I am beginning to think he's the real deal. I was sceptical until a few weeks ago. We have to remember the shambles that Chelsea are in, and he's the only constant. He can be playmaker, winger, inside forward and striker. He links play, assists, scores and threatens the opposition. I am a huge fan of Saka, but if you are picking on form, Palmer is in pole position at present. If you put him in a top team, then his numbers would be better in general. I know people talk penalties, but he's scored 11 in open play for a team which has struggled - it's still a good return for an attacking midfielder.
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posted on 16/4/24
Saka is world class at winning pens and freekicks, which plays into England's strengths.
If Palmer can add that to his game then he's gonna be pushing for a place.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
posted on 16/4/24
But we’ve also been awful in recent years and have been over reliant on Bruno or Rashford who have at times had great numbers but I’d still pick Saka over both.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Which is surely an overlook? considering kovacic, doku, grealish get minutes and lewis.
Not saying he would have played all the time but surely he would started to get a look in? especially with scoring in the super cup.
posted on 16/4/24
"Saka is world class at winning pens and freekicks, which plays into England's strengths."
Sounds silly, but it's a fair point. England create feck all in open play.
Grealish should be a shoe in on the left then too
posted on 16/4/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
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City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
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Palmer has clearly made the right choice. If Chelsea don't go anywhere in the next season or two he can always leave.
He's playing with a freedom Pep would never allow him too.
posted on 16/4/24
What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
posted on 16/4/24
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
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Palmer has clearly made the right choice. If Chelsea don't go anywhere in the next season or two he can always leave.
He's playing with a freedom Pep would never allow him too.
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Which means he develops as an individual but not so much as a team player, which is what he would have honed at City, with a little more patience and then as an individual, progress would have come, like it's doing now for Foden.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 57 seconds ago
What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
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City have dropped a bollok letting him go and signing Doku imo but we’ll see in the long run.
As for England, he’s not going to be taking Saka’s place on the right I'd have thought.
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He wouldn’t have got the games for us, he’s at the right club for him.
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Probably should have allowed Silva to go when he wanted to leave and brought in Palmer. Personally for me, Palmer should have had a bit more patience as he was going to get his shot like Foden did and it certainly did him no harm being eased in.
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Palmer has clearly made the right choice. If Chelsea don't go anywhere in the next season or two he can always leave.
He's playing with a freedom Pep would never allow him too.
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Which means he develops as an individual but not so much as a team player, which is what he would have honed at City, with a little more patience and then as an individual, progress would have come, like it's doing now for Foden.
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Not many managers require so much discipline from flair players as Pep.
Imagine Klopp did this with Salah, he'd have about 10 goals a season.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 57 seconds ago
What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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That's because Pep wants to mould players into team players first and foremost and once they get that they are then allowed to express themselves in the right moments. It's about developing an intelligence of when to take risks.
posted on 16/4/24
It will be fun when the pundits are analysing England's 2-1 defeat to Germany and asking why there is not more of a goal threat. They discuss the number of goals scored around the team this season and then it dawns upon them that the majority were pens. Then they suddenly realise that that only results in one goal when all of those players are playing in the same team together cos only one player can take the pen. Interesting.
posted on 16/4/24
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 57 seconds ago
What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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hmmm not sure I agree with that. KDB probably plays more risky passes more often. Foden has had the exact same shots per game.
i think he just has to take the responsibility, rather than hes given the freedom.
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posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 57 seconds ago
What is this freedom palmer is playing with? Hes surprisingly good defensively and presses well. He doesn't just roam around the pitch.
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The freedom to take risks with the ball, to shoot, to play a tricky pass.
It's all coming off for him, but at City it gets you dropped.
Grealish has had all of his flair and ability sucked out of him by Pep, same would happen to Palmer imo. As I say, I think he made the right move, lucky for you Nick.
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That's because Pep wants to mould players into team players first and foremost and once they get that they are then allowed to express themselves in the right moments. It's about developing an intelligence of when to take risks.
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Try counting how often Grealish takes on a man and goes passed him into a threatening position, and compare that to how often he threatens to go down the line, only to come inside, play and move. The latter is probably 80% at least.
Doku is going the same way. His output has dried up the more coached he has been. This isnt a criticism of Pep as who can criticise Pep? but it is his way which may extract the maximum from a team but not necessarily the individual.
From what i have seen of Palmer, his ability to freely attack does not come at the cost of his defensive/team responsibilities.
City/Pep defo dropped a bolllock selling him
posted on 16/4/24
But the set up at City is far less forgiving. Palmer is given the freedom to do these things at a team who more than often don't win and perform poorly.
KDB is arguably the best creative player on the planet so when he makes risky passes he will more than likely succeed and doesn't have the luxury of being able to fail as much because of the demands.
I agree you could change freedom for responsibility but the point is the responsibility as Chelsea now is far lower than anything at City or Arsenal currently.
He's triving and good for him, he made a good choice moving to help his development but I think you can't easily compare his stats to players at teams who are performing week in week out and who have far more outlets offensively.
posted on 16/4/24
Yeah think we will just have to agree to disagree.
City can afford to take more risks as they are a hugely superior team and win the ball back quickly.
If Palmer doesnt affect the game, as you mention, we lose.
A lot more pressure on him. city players can have lulls and poor performances and still get a win.
Atm if palmer doesnt do a madness chelsea lose.
He doesnt have the luxury to fail for that reason whether as kdb etc do.
posted on 16/4/24
But like I said, we had it similar with both Bruno and Rashford at times where we were overly reliant on them scoring/assisting. But I think you put either in a City/Arsenal side and you will see far lower numbers, you'd also see Rashford on the bench all the time.
posted on 16/4/24
Pep told Palmer that Mahrez was leaving and would get plenty of opportunities on the right.
His decision to leave, the promise of a massive contract at Chelsea probably helped as well.
posted on 16/4/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 15 minutes ago
But like I said, we had it similar with both Bruno and Rashford at times where we were overly reliant on them scoring/assisting. But I think you put either in a City/Arsenal side and you will see far lower numbers, you'd also see Rashford on the bench all the time.
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fair enough. Though i'd disagree. As seen by players like haaland whos numbers increased once leaving molde , salah, mane and many other players I think once they joined better teams he'd go that way. A lot easier to score in a better team as a forward player. Suarez, neymar and messi etc all fed each other.
Its not like our players are feeding him. He has to beat several players most the time to get a goal.
posted on 16/4/24
If he was the sole focal point and the team were looking for him constantly, like watkins to use a poor example, then i'd be more inclined to agree.
posted on 16/4/24
It’s not like our players are feeding him. He has to beat several players most the time to get a goal.
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Especially when it comes to taking penalties
posted on 16/4/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s not like our players are feeding him. He has to beat several players most the time to get a goal.
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Especially when it comes to taking penalties
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That's a good one boris, well done.
posted on 16/4/24
Palmer is outperforming his XG by 5 (thats including pens btw), saka is by 0.4 or something. So palmer is scoring a lot harder chances
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If you listen to serious stats people, they will emphasise that outperforming/underperforming xG is only a relevant metric if you have a big sample size. When players like Messi and Mbappé consistently outperform their xG over years, it's evidence that they're elite finishers. That's very rare. On the other hand, you get lots of instances of a player significantly outperforming their xG in one season, and it turns out to be a statistical blip, and they quickly revert to mean. A single season is a tiny sample, and the range of outcomes from a season's worth of shots depend wildly vary depending on whether a player catches the ball extra sweetly / whether they benefit from keeping errors or lucking deflections (like the winner against United!) a few times more than usual. Again, this isn't to argue that Palmer isn't an excellent player, just that having an edge in non-penalty goals / goals:xG ratio in one season is within the margin of error.
posted on 16/4/24
I said it was a bit of a silly stat. however over 20 goals and a season is still quite a sample size.
posted on 16/4/24
Maybe I am not the most balanced person to speak about this, but I am beginning to think he's the real deal. I was sceptical until a few weeks ago. We have to remember the shambles that Chelsea are in, and he's the only constant. He can be playmaker, winger, inside forward and striker. He links play, assists, scores and threatens the opposition. I am a huge fan of Saka, but if you are picking on form, Palmer is in pole position at present. If you put him in a top team, then his numbers would be better in general. I know people talk penalties, but he's scored 11 in open play for a team which has struggled - it's still a good return for an attacking midfielder.
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