I'm surprised that a manager who got his BVB playing as amazingly as they did has been so boring to watch since.

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comment by Vengeance (U23079)
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Same Tuchel who has done wonders at Bayern? By losing the league title in a one team league. Bayern had previously won the league 11 seasons running before he arrived!

Yep, he'll fit right in at Utd*!


* Will end in tears
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he has managed essentially lose 2 one horse race leagues at both Bayern and PSG.
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Are Leverkusen not a horse? And when did he lose the league in France ?
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this year they have done a leicester and won the league for the first time in their history you consider Leicester a horse in the EPL race?

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
And when did he lose the league in France ?

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Robb

Wasn't that your man Poch
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Indeed, but he went and won it the next season.

after this season Leverkusen will have 1 league to add to their one cup over the last 120 years

comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same Tuchel who has done wonders at Bayern? By losing the league title in a one team league. Bayern had previously won the league 11 seasons running before he arrived!

Yep, he'll fit right in at Utd*!


* Will end in tears
😐
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he has managed essentially lose 2 one horse race leagues at both Bayern and PSG.
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Are Leverkusen not a horse? And when did he lose the league in France ?
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if you consider sitting in 3rd in a one horse race as winning then fair enough.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same Tuchel who has done wonders at Bayern? By losing the league title in a one team league. Bayern had previously won the league 11 seasons running before he arrived!

Yep, he'll fit right in at Utd*!


* Will end in tears
😐
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he has managed essentially lose 2 one horse race leagues at both Bayern and PSG.
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Are Leverkusen not a horse? And when did he lose the league in France ?
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this year they have done a leicester and won the league for the first time in their history you consider Leicester a horse in the EPL race?

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Pure whataboutery but I’ll indulge you.

Leicester won the league with a very low points total and didn’t have Europe to contend with whereas Leverkusen have possibly won the Bundesliga - a league with potentially two CL finalists and also are on the verge of making their own European final undefeated

I don't the he's 'the one' as it were, but he'd be a marked improvement over ETH, so I'm all for it.

I'm really starting to come round to the idea of Emery, but I think he recently signed a new contract at Villa.

Amorim is the other name in the mixer, but I can't pretend I watch the Portuguese league all that much (maybe I'm missing a trick!)

I don’t understand why people keep falling for media nonsense like this

Tuchel has fallen out with every club he’s worked for, and there’s no way in hell he’ll work under our new structure. Lazy journalism at best, downright lies for clicks at worst.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same Tuchel who has done wonders at Bayern? By losing the league title in a one team league. Bayern had previously won the league 11 seasons running before he arrived!

Yep, he'll fit right in at Utd*!


* Will end in tears
😐
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he has managed essentially lose 2 one horse race leagues at both Bayern and PSG.
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Are Leverkusen not a horse? And when did he lose the league in France ?
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if you consider sitting in 3rd in a one horse race as winning then fair enough.
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They were a point behind the leaders when he was sacked in December of that season.

comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same Tuchel who has done wonders at Bayern? By losing the league title in a one team league. Bayern had previously won the league 11 seasons running before he arrived!

Yep, he'll fit right in at Utd*!


* Will end in tears
😐
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he has managed essentially lose 2 one horse race leagues at both Bayern and PSG.
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Are Leverkusen not a horse? And when did he lose the league in France ?
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this year they have done a leicester and won the league for the first time in their history you consider Leicester a horse in the EPL race?

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Pure whataboutery but I’ll indulge you.

Leicester won the league with a very low points total and didn’t have Europe to contend with whereas Leverkusen have possibly won the Bundesliga - a league with potentially two CL finalists and also are on the verge of making their own European final undefeated
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Leverkusen have just won their 2nd ever honour, their first ever league. There is no excuses for a team with the resources and infrastructure of Bayern not beating Leverkusen. and hence why its a one horse race or at least it is when Tuchel isnt in charge.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same Tuchel who has done wonders at Bayern? By losing the league title in a one team league. Bayern had previously won the league 11 seasons running before he arrived!

Yep, he'll fit right in at Utd*!


* Will end in tears
😐
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he has managed essentially lose 2 one horse race leagues at both Bayern and PSG.
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Are Leverkusen not a horse? And when did he lose the league in France ?
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this year they have done a leicester and won the league for the first time in their history you consider Leicester a horse in the EPL race?

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Pure whataboutery but I’ll indulge you.

Leicester won the league with a very low points total and didn’t have Europe to contend with whereas Leverkusen have possibly won the Bundesliga - a league with potentially two CL finalists and also are on the verge of making their own European final undefeated
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Leverkusen have just won their 2nd ever honour, their first ever league. There is no excuses for a team with the resources and infrastructure of Bayern not beating Leverkusen. and hence why its a one horse race or at least it is when Tuchel isnt in charge.
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I think you’re wumming now so for my own mental health I’ll refrain from entering your weird world of ‘logic’

Oh and he lost that one horse race on the back of spending more money at Bayern this season than any other manager at Bayern in their history.

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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Robb Garnacho (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 5 minutes ago
Same Tuchel who has done wonders at Bayern? By losing the league title in a one team league. Bayern had previously won the league 11 seasons running before he arrived!

Yep, he'll fit right in at Utd*!


* Will end in tears
😐
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he has managed essentially lose 2 one horse race leagues at both Bayern and PSG.
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Are Leverkusen not a horse? And when did he lose the league in France ?
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this year they have done a leicester and won the league for the first time in their history you consider Leicester a horse in the EPL race?

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Pure whataboutery but I’ll indulge you.

Leicester won the league with a very low points total and didn’t have Europe to contend with whereas Leverkusen have possibly won the Bundesliga - a league with potentially two CL finalists and also are on the verge of making their own European final undefeated
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Leverkusen have just won their 2nd ever honour, their first ever league. There is no excuses for a team with the resources and infrastructure of Bayern not beating Leverkusen. and hence why its a one horse race or at least it is when Tuchel isnt in charge.
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I think you’re wumming now so for my own mental health I’ll refrain from entering your weird world of ‘logic’
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your confusing logic with facts bud sorry

What about the Dortmund manager? I know little about him, but he is getting a tune out of Sancho and could win a Champs League

Pure whataboutery but I’ll indulge you.

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Robbsie, if it wasn't for the fact that you are dealing with an imbecile, I wouldn't let that go.

Definintely closer to Ancelotti than Pep on the manager spectrum in that he's never seemed welded to a particular style of play, which is not necessarily a bad thing.

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I'm ready to be corrected on this, but from my understanding, Tuchel is more of a "positionist" coach (like Guardiola) who has fairly rigid positional instructions that govern team shape, whereas Ancelotti is more open to players improvising their movements and combinations. Tuchel (also like Guardiola) is not dogmatic about a single formation, but constantly innovates and tweaks shape and preferred interchanges to suit the players and to try to avoid being easy for oppo analysis.

Personally, I think we could do a lot worse when considering the coaches who are available this summer.

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posted 3 minutes ago
Pure whataboutery but I’ll indulge you.

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Robbsie, if it wasn't for the fact that you are dealing with an imbecile, I wouldn't let that go.
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So you think that Tuchel with Bayern and their 11 years as the lone dog in the race and double the budget of teams like Leverkusen, can be excused for losing the league? Especially after spending record amounts this season to improve 11 times in a row winners Bayern?

there is no excuses other than not being good enough

Tuchel had a plan coming into Bayern but then publicly said that the players were not good enough to carry out his instructions and tactics !!

comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 29 minutes ago
I don’t understand why people keep falling for media nonsense like this

Tuchel has fallen out with every club he’s worked for, and there’s no way in hell he’ll work under our new structure. Lazy journalism at best, downright lies for clicks at worst.
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It’s Robb

comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don’t understand why people keep Fallings for media nonsense like this

Tuchel has fallen out with every club he’s worked for, and there’s no way in hell he’ll work under our new structure. Lazy journalism at best, downright lies for clicks at worst.
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Why would it be downright lies? Southgate I'd agree has absolutely no basis I suspect - but Tuchel is a proven coach, who I have no doubt we'll at the very least be considering if available.

As for his relationship with other clubs - I mentioned this the other day but I think it was Dazza who made the good point that the Bayern and PSG hierarchies are notoriously difficult to handle anyway. He was fine at Chelsea up till the point Cech and Marina left - which probably suggests he can work under a structure as long as he feels supported.

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posted 10 seconds ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don’t understand why people keep Fallings for media nonsense like this

Tuchel has fallen out with every club he’s worked for, and there’s no way in hell he’ll work under our new structure. Lazy journalism at best, downright lies for clicks at worst.
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Why would it be downright lies? Southgate I'd agree has absolutely no basis I suspect - but Tuchel is a proven coach, who I have no doubt we'll at the very least be considering if available.

As for his relationship with other clubs - I mentioned this the other day but I think it was Dazza who made the good point that the Bayern and PSG hierarchies are notoriously difficult to handle anyway. He was fine at Chelsea up till the point Cech and Marina left - which probably suggests he can work under a structure as long as he feels supported.
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he literally gave you the reason in the post you replied to !

he has fallen out with the last 3 clubs he has managed at.

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don’t understand why people keep Fallings for media nonsense like this

Tuchel has fallen out with every club he’s worked for, and there’s no way in hell he’ll work under our new structure. Lazy journalism at best, downright lies for clicks at worst.
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Why would it be downright lies? Southgate I'd agree has absolutely no basis I suspect - but Tuchel is a proven coach, who I have no doubt we'll at the very least be considering if available.

As for his relationship with other clubs - I mentioned this the other day but I think it was Dazza who made the good point that the Bayern and PSG hierarchies are notoriously difficult to handle anyway. He was fine at Chelsea up till the point Cech and Marina left - which probably suggests he can work under a structure as long as he feels supported.
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he literally gave you the reason in the post you replied to !

he has fallen out with the last 3 clubs he has managed at.
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Yeah, but that's not a reason for the links to be downright lies. You seriously think Tuchel isn't going to be considered for a top job ever again after this summer? Of course he will.

I’d be very surprised indeed if Tuchel was not in the conversation at Utd

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comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don’t understand why people keep Fallings for media nonsense like this

Tuchel has fallen out with every club he’s worked for, and there’s no way in hell he’ll work under our new structure. Lazy journalism at best, downright lies for clicks at worst.
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Why would it be downright lies? Southgate I'd agree has absolutely no basis I suspect - but Tuchel is a proven coach, who I have no doubt we'll at the very least be considering if available.

As for his relationship with other clubs - I mentioned this the other day but I think it was Dazza who made the good point that the Bayern and PSG hierarchies are notoriously difficult to handle anyway. He was fine at Chelsea up till the point Cech and Marina left - which probably suggests he can work under a structure as long as he feels supported.
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he literally gave you the reason in the post you replied to !

he has fallen out with the last 3 clubs he has managed at.
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Yeah, but that's not a reason for the links to be downright lies. You seriously think Tuchel isn't going to be considered for a top job ever again after this summer? Of course he will.
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it is to him. No he will get another top job I dont think it will be Man Utd and it if is I think it will be a very lazy uninspiring appointment of a guy that has fell out of with the last three clubs he has went to.

Hard to know whether Tuchel is someone who starts fights in empty rooms or if he has been unlucky to work at clubs with a lot of politics upstairs and during times of instability. However, I think that history underscores the point that if we bring in Tuchel - or anyone else, for that matter - they need to be a good fit with the wider vision, structure and personnel. This is ultimately why I'm not sure whether we should rush to appoint ETH's replacement ahead of crystallising the club's strategic plan, and why I have no idea who the right guy is. If we need to cut ETH right away, maybe we're better off with a caretaker than making a long-term appointment that turns into another wrong-turn.