Whilst I wouldn't 100% disagree on the 100m in sales I do wonder if those leaving or being allowed to leave will have many teams chasing them and therefore effecting the price?
I do agree on the positions needed and again my only concern would be the finances required and also if the targets would have other options?
Either way it's going to be an interesting summer window one way or the other
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
Will Mainoo want to stick around if next season is a repeat of this?
Selling him would raise a decent amount
If you go down the route Arsenal did a few summers back (which many are predicting United will have to) you'll be paying players' contracts up, loaning them out, or selling them for peanuts to get them off your books.
No way are you bringing in £50m from sales this summer, let alone £100m.
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you go down the route Arsenal did a few summers back (which many are predicting United will have to) you'll be paying players' contracts up, loaning them out, or selling them for peanuts to get them off your books.
No way are you bringing in £50m from sales this summer, let alone £100m.
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Yes we are. Greenwood will bring a good sum on his own
Can't see Greenwood bringing in more than £30m with the sсumbag deduction from the price. Not really seeing who else United want to lose who brings in good money.
Unless losses are cut on Anthony and Hojlund, some young players like Garnacho and Mainoo are allowed to leave or you let Fernandes go.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't see Greenwood bringing in more than £30m with the sсumbag deduction from the price. Not really seeing who else United want to lose who brings in good money.
Unless losses are cut on Anthony and Hojlund, some young players like Garnacho and Mainoo are allowed to leave or you let Fernandes go.
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AWB €20million
Rashford could bring in £50+million.
Lindelof, Malacia, Pellistri, Sancho, £49million between them.
We’ll probably get a fair bit by virtue of the numbers of players that can be moved on, rather than any big sales. With some academy players that can moved on, we could be looking at selling about 15 players.
We should easily be able to bring in £100m in sales this Summer
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£20 quid for the second-hand coffee machine if it's in good enough nick.
Where's the remaining £99,999,980 coming from?
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
Can't see Greenwood bringing in more than £30m with the sсumbag deduction from the price.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
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Lindelof or Maguire, AWB, VDB, Casemiro, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Pellistri, Antony
There are plenty of players that should be up for grabs that could bring in £100m
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 34 minutes ago
If you go down the route Arsenal did a few summers back (which many are predicting United will have to) you'll be paying players' contracts up, loaning them out, or selling them for peanuts to get them off your books.
No way are you bringing in £50m from sales this summer, let alone £100m.
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Who would we loan out or pay off?
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 43 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
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Bruno isn't going
We've been notoriously abysmal at selling players for good money.
The fact David Beckham is still in the top 5 transfer fees OUT for our club says everything. How long ago was that now? 21/22 years?
Think it might be a case of drastically reducing the wage bill rather than getting big fees to finance any rebuild.
The wage bill will be reduced immediately by around £750k a week from players that will be out of contract and leaving.
And after that there's the 25% reduction in player salaries for the non-CL qualification.
So the wage bill will be reduced by around £80m before any player sales.
Think sales income will be limited to small fees for quite a few players.
Maguire/Lindeloaf, Hannibal, Eriksen, Pellistri I think we'll be looking at £10m each or less. Much less for Eriksen, maybe even a free.
Of the others, Greenwood might be a hard sell. Can't see Getafe stumping up the £30m or so, Athletico were rumoured to be interested, but if not?
Sancho issue is his wages. If he's not going to accept a lower wage then it's going to be a struggle.
Saudi interest in Casemiro? Are they really going to pay a decent fee for him? Can we negotiate a decent fee for him? When Saudi were chucking money around on players, we managed to let them have Cristiano Ronaldo for free...
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
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Lindelof or Maguire, AWB, VDB, Casemiro, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Pellistri, Antony
There are plenty of players that should be up for grabs that could bring in £100m
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Nah
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 11 seconds ago
Think it might be a case of drastically reducing the wage bill rather than getting big fees to finance any rebuild.
The wage bill will be reduced immediately by around £750k a week from players that will be out of contract and leaving.
And after that there's the 25% reduction in player salaries for the non-CL qualification.
So the wage bill will be reduced by around £80m before any player sales.
Think sales income will be limited to small fees for quite a few players.
Maguire/Lindeloaf, Hannibal, Eriksen, Pellistri I think we'll be looking at £10m each or less. Much less for Eriksen, maybe even a free.
Of the others, Greenwood might be a hard sell. Can't see Getafe stumping up the £30m or so, Athletico were rumoured to be interested, but if not?
Sancho issue is his wages. If he's not going to accept a lower wage then it's going to be a struggle.
Saudi interest in Casemiro? Are they really going to pay a decent fee for him? Can we negotiate a decent fee for him? When Saudi were chucking money around on players, we managed to let them have Cristiano Ronaldo for free...
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This sounds far more likely
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
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Lindelof or Maguire, AWB, VDB, Casemiro, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Pellistri, Antony
There are plenty of players that should be up for grabs that could bring in £100m
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Not being funny, but United pay huge wages.
Who's going to want to match the wage demands of players under contract who've underperformed or in some cases barely even featured? It's something every club will take into account when sitting down to negotiate a deal.
Either you sell at knockdown prices to compensate for the wages, or in some cases you might even need to release players just so you can get them off your books.
Take Rashford, for example. As much as his nominal transfer value says €60M (transfermarkt), his wages have been reported at anywhere between £300k-375k/week, and he's under contract until 2028.
Who's going to offer him that sort of wages, that Rashford would actually be willing to join, and stump up that kind of fee to go with it?
Do you think Rashford will accept to lower his wage demands by 30% or more just to please United? Is he going to say, yeah, I'll give up on millions of pounds that I'm guaranteed by contract, just so United can fetch a feee close to my valuation?
Think twice.
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 9 minutes ago
Think it might be a case of drastically reducing the wage bill rather than getting big fees to finance any rebuild.
The wage bill will be reduced immediately by around £750k a week from players that will be out of contract and leaving.
And after that there's the 25% reduction in player salaries for the non-CL qualification.
So the wage bill will be reduced by around £80m before any player sales.
Think sales income will be limited to small fees for quite a few players.
Maguire/Lindeloaf, Hannibal, Eriksen, Pellistri I think we'll be looking at £10m each or less. Much less for Eriksen, maybe even a free.
Of the others, Greenwood might be a hard sell. Can't see Getafe stumping up the £30m or so, Athletico were rumoured to be interested, but if not?
Sancho issue is his wages. If he's not going to accept a lower wage then it's going to be a struggle.
Saudi interest in Casemiro? Are they really going to pay a decent fee for him? Can we negotiate a decent fee for him? When Saudi were chucking money around on players, we managed to let them have Cristiano Ronaldo for free...
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Exactly. Wages will be re a massive stumbling block on most of those players.
The Saudis have by and large recruited on the back of paying ridiculous wages, but have rarely paid outlandish fees for them.
Seeing as you-name checked Getafe, their all-time record fee is roughly £10M quid. Not that they would ever be in the running to sign Greenwood anyway, as he'll have bigger clubs showing interest. But they'll all be well aware that he's pretty much been blacklisted by a load of other clubs, so potential suitors are all going to try to negotiate downwards.
And there's a further problem linked to all of the above.
What about new signings? Once again, they know the kinds of wages United pay, they know the club is top-5 or so in revenues worldwide, they'll demand assurances and special bonuses for joining a club with no CL and no immediate perspectives of challenging seriously for the league title ...
It's a hugely complicated situation. Recruitment is going to have to be very, very shrewd.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
Recruitment is going to have to be very, very shrewd.
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"very, very shrewd" is our recruitment team's middle name
Squad and youth players sales can add up because we’ve so many that can be moved on. It’s the higher earners that need to be flogged that will be more difficult like Sancho, Antony and Maguire.
We need 2x CB, 1x FB (sell Malacia), 1x DM, 1x Winger, 1x CF
There's some really good options out there this summer de to release clauses and contracts ending.
As IOAG says, I think that’s unlikely.
The other aspect is that you’ll still need a 23 man squad. There are 9 or 10 players there, that even if they say they’ll leave (which I doubt in at least half those cases) you still need a squad of 23 do that means replacing them.
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posted on 16/5/24
Whilst I wouldn't 100% disagree on the 100m in sales I do wonder if those leaving or being allowed to leave will have many teams chasing them and therefore effecting the price?
I do agree on the positions needed and again my only concern would be the finances required and also if the targets would have other options?
Either way it's going to be an interesting summer window one way or the other
posted on 16/5/24
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
posted on 16/5/24
Will Mainoo want to stick around if next season is a repeat of this?
Selling him would raise a decent amount
posted on 16/5/24
If you go down the route Arsenal did a few summers back (which many are predicting United will have to) you'll be paying players' contracts up, loaning them out, or selling them for peanuts to get them off your books.
No way are you bringing in £50m from sales this summer, let alone £100m.
posted on 16/5/24
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you go down the route Arsenal did a few summers back (which many are predicting United will have to) you'll be paying players' contracts up, loaning them out, or selling them for peanuts to get them off your books.
No way are you bringing in £50m from sales this summer, let alone £100m.
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Yes we are. Greenwood will bring a good sum on his own
posted on 16/5/24
Can't see Greenwood bringing in more than £30m with the sсumbag deduction from the price. Not really seeing who else United want to lose who brings in good money.
Unless losses are cut on Anthony and Hojlund, some young players like Garnacho and Mainoo are allowed to leave or you let Fernandes go.
posted on 16/5/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't see Greenwood bringing in more than £30m with the sсumbag deduction from the price. Not really seeing who else United want to lose who brings in good money.
Unless losses are cut on Anthony and Hojlund, some young players like Garnacho and Mainoo are allowed to leave or you let Fernandes go.
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AWB €20million
posted on 16/5/24
Rashford could bring in £50+million.
posted on 16/5/24
Lindelof, Malacia, Pellistri, Sancho, £49million between them.
posted on 16/5/24
We’ll probably get a fair bit by virtue of the numbers of players that can be moved on, rather than any big sales. With some academy players that can moved on, we could be looking at selling about 15 players.
posted on 16/5/24
We should easily be able to bring in £100m in sales this Summer
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£20 quid for the second-hand coffee machine if it's in good enough nick.
Where's the remaining £99,999,980 coming from?
posted on 16/5/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
Can't see Greenwood bringing in more than £30m with the sсumbag deduction from the price.
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posted on 16/5/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lindelof or Maguire, AWB, VDB, Casemiro, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Pellistri, Antony
There are plenty of players that should be up for grabs that could bring in £100m
posted on 16/5/24
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 34 minutes ago
If you go down the route Arsenal did a few summers back (which many are predicting United will have to) you'll be paying players' contracts up, loaning them out, or selling them for peanuts to get them off your books.
No way are you bringing in £50m from sales this summer, let alone £100m.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who would we loan out or pay off?
posted on 16/5/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 43 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
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Bruno isn't going
posted on 16/5/24
We've been notoriously abysmal at selling players for good money.
The fact David Beckham is still in the top 5 transfer fees OUT for our club says everything. How long ago was that now? 21/22 years?
posted on 16/5/24
Think it might be a case of drastically reducing the wage bill rather than getting big fees to finance any rebuild.
The wage bill will be reduced immediately by around £750k a week from players that will be out of contract and leaving.
And after that there's the 25% reduction in player salaries for the non-CL qualification.
So the wage bill will be reduced by around £80m before any player sales.
Think sales income will be limited to small fees for quite a few players.
Maguire/Lindeloaf, Hannibal, Eriksen, Pellistri I think we'll be looking at £10m each or less. Much less for Eriksen, maybe even a free.
Of the others, Greenwood might be a hard sell. Can't see Getafe stumping up the £30m or so, Athletico were rumoured to be interested, but if not?
Sancho issue is his wages. If he's not going to accept a lower wage then it's going to be a struggle.
Saudi interest in Casemiro? Are they really going to pay a decent fee for him? Can we negotiate a decent fee for him? When Saudi were chucking money around on players, we managed to let them have Cristiano Ronaldo for free...
posted on 16/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lindelof or Maguire, AWB, VDB, Casemiro, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Pellistri, Antony
There are plenty of players that should be up for grabs that could bring in £100m
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Nah
posted on 16/5/24
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 11 seconds ago
Think it might be a case of drastically reducing the wage bill rather than getting big fees to finance any rebuild.
The wage bill will be reduced immediately by around £750k a week from players that will be out of contract and leaving.
And after that there's the 25% reduction in player salaries for the non-CL qualification.
So the wage bill will be reduced by around £80m before any player sales.
Think sales income will be limited to small fees for quite a few players.
Maguire/Lindeloaf, Hannibal, Eriksen, Pellistri I think we'll be looking at £10m each or less. Much less for Eriksen, maybe even a free.
Of the others, Greenwood might be a hard sell. Can't see Getafe stumping up the £30m or so, Athletico were rumoured to be interested, but if not?
Sancho issue is his wages. If he's not going to accept a lower wage then it's going to be a struggle.
Saudi interest in Casemiro? Are they really going to pay a decent fee for him? Can we negotiate a decent fee for him? When Saudi were chucking money around on players, we managed to let them have Cristiano Ronaldo for free...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This sounds far more likely
posted on 16/5/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Just for bantz where is the £100m easily coming from?
There’s Bruno and who?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lindelof or Maguire, AWB, VDB, Casemiro, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Pellistri, Antony
There are plenty of players that should be up for grabs that could bring in £100m
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not being funny, but United pay huge wages.
Who's going to want to match the wage demands of players under contract who've underperformed or in some cases barely even featured? It's something every club will take into account when sitting down to negotiate a deal.
Either you sell at knockdown prices to compensate for the wages, or in some cases you might even need to release players just so you can get them off your books.
Take Rashford, for example. As much as his nominal transfer value says €60M (transfermarkt), his wages have been reported at anywhere between £300k-375k/week, and he's under contract until 2028.
Who's going to offer him that sort of wages, that Rashford would actually be willing to join, and stump up that kind of fee to go with it?
Do you think Rashford will accept to lower his wage demands by 30% or more just to please United? Is he going to say, yeah, I'll give up on millions of pounds that I'm guaranteed by contract, just so United can fetch a feee close to my valuation?
Think twice.
posted on 16/5/24
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 9 minutes ago
Think it might be a case of drastically reducing the wage bill rather than getting big fees to finance any rebuild.
The wage bill will be reduced immediately by around £750k a week from players that will be out of contract and leaving.
And after that there's the 25% reduction in player salaries for the non-CL qualification.
So the wage bill will be reduced by around £80m before any player sales.
Think sales income will be limited to small fees for quite a few players.
Maguire/Lindeloaf, Hannibal, Eriksen, Pellistri I think we'll be looking at £10m each or less. Much less for Eriksen, maybe even a free.
Of the others, Greenwood might be a hard sell. Can't see Getafe stumping up the £30m or so, Athletico were rumoured to be interested, but if not?
Sancho issue is his wages. If he's not going to accept a lower wage then it's going to be a struggle.
Saudi interest in Casemiro? Are they really going to pay a decent fee for him? Can we negotiate a decent fee for him? When Saudi were chucking money around on players, we managed to let them have Cristiano Ronaldo for free...
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Exactly. Wages will be re a massive stumbling block on most of those players.
The Saudis have by and large recruited on the back of paying ridiculous wages, but have rarely paid outlandish fees for them.
Seeing as you-name checked Getafe, their all-time record fee is roughly £10M quid. Not that they would ever be in the running to sign Greenwood anyway, as he'll have bigger clubs showing interest. But they'll all be well aware that he's pretty much been blacklisted by a load of other clubs, so potential suitors are all going to try to negotiate downwards.
And there's a further problem linked to all of the above.
What about new signings? Once again, they know the kinds of wages United pay, they know the club is top-5 or so in revenues worldwide, they'll demand assurances and special bonuses for joining a club with no CL and no immediate perspectives of challenging seriously for the league title ...
It's a hugely complicated situation. Recruitment is going to have to be very, very shrewd.
posted on 16/5/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
Recruitment is going to have to be very, very shrewd.
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"very, very shrewd" is our recruitment team's middle name
posted on 16/5/24
Squad and youth players sales can add up because we’ve so many that can be moved on. It’s the higher earners that need to be flogged that will be more difficult like Sancho, Antony and Maguire.
posted on 16/5/24
We need 2x CB, 1x FB (sell Malacia), 1x DM, 1x Winger, 1x CF
There's some really good options out there this summer de to release clauses and contracts ending.
posted on 16/5/24
As IOAG says, I think that’s unlikely.
The other aspect is that you’ll still need a 23 man squad. There are 9 or 10 players there, that even if they say they’ll leave (which I doubt in at least half those cases) you still need a squad of 23 do that means replacing them.
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