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posted on 6/6/24

do think we should have taken Grealish too as he actually does offer something different, an x-factor. Not saying he would start but he always takes on players and wins fouls.

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Eze can do this, his style and role in the squad is essentially what Grealish would bring.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 27 minutes ago
What the deal with White again… was it a bust up, that man’s haven’t dealt with?
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It's a confusing situation. The reports were he left the squad due to a bust up with one of the coaching staff. Southgate had since attempted to call him up but Edu told him White doesn't want to make himself available. Southgate said he doesn't really know why but it's not due to a bust up with any of the coaching staff.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 27 minutes ago
What the deal with White again… was it a bust up, that man’s haven’t dealt with?
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It's a confusing situation. The reports were he left the squad due to a bust up with one of the coaching staff. Southgate had since attempted to call him up but Edu told him White doesn't want to make himself available. Southgate said he doesn't really know why but it's not due to a bust up with any of the coaching staff.
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Someone nicked his tanning lotion - unforgivable in his eyes

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 3 minutes ago
We have a real problem in defence. Maguire never really cut it for me, but the fact that Southgate refused to try out players for many of the games means we have no proven replacements. I think our best defender to partner Stones would be Gomes. But surely taking a left footer like Colwill could have been an option. Likewise, Chilwell has been average when he's played this season, but he's left footed and can actually cover Shaw and give us something going forward, unlike Trippier.

I do think we should have taken Grealish too as he actually does offer something different, an x-factor. Not saying he would start but he always takes on players and wins fouls.

For all the quality we have in certain areas, we do seriously lack in others, and in depth.
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Guehi plays on the left and will almost certainly now start alongside Stones. Yes he is right footed, but he is very comfortable there.

I would have taken Branthwaite though
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Branthwaite should be there. You're really going to struggle aerially if Stones and Guehi are your centre backs.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Defence is a concern without Maguire. Would have preferred to see Branthwaite in for Dunk. I would have taken Grealish over Bowen as well.
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I'd have took Grealish over Toney. Really no reason to bring Toney. Kane is obviously going to start every game, unless it's the third group stage game and England are qualified or he gets injured. So Watkins may get one game. If the unthinkable happened and both Kane and Watkins got injured there's Bowen and Bellingham as a false 9. Bowen is much more likely to play than Toney. You could actually make a better case for Toney out for Braithwaite.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Our Bald Manager > Yours (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
do think we should have taken Grealish too as he actually does offer something different, an x-factor. Not saying he would start but he always takes on players and wins fouls.

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Eze can do this, his style and role in the squad is essentially what Grealish would bring.
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Think Eze will get a bit of game time at this tournament and cause a lot of teams problems.

We will be up against Low blocks in the group stage - Eze will just weave through those

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 17 seconds ago
I think England looks relatively vulnerable at the back, especially the fullback positions. Not saying that there were better options, but this squad is not as stacked as the most media wants you to believe.
Dropping Maddison and Grealish might lose you some unpredictability and creativity against teams that park the bus. I don't really know Gordon and Bowen that well, but aren't they more cookie cutter/text book players?
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I agree on Grealish but I am not that fussed about Maddison. Likewise, Gordon and Bowen are, meh, for me. Glad Eze made it as he gives us some directness although we will have to see 8f he can cut it at international level. We have Walker as a full back and he offers a little of everything but the left back position and the partner for Stones is a worry imo
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Yeah I mean if the other guys are in their club form, you don't really need Maddison. Trying to see what a plan b looks like when things aren't going well, maybe Gordon is that Wallcot like player as Strike mentioned his pace.

Surprisingly there are not many countries with a big pinchhitter, the days of Crouch, Heskey, Pi-Air, are mostly gone...

posted on 6/6/24

Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Defence is a concern without Maguire. Would have preferred to see Branthwaite in for Dunk. I would have taken Grealish over Bowen as well.
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I'd have took Grealish over Toney. Really no reason to bring Toney. Kane is obviously going to start every game, unless it's the third group stage game and England are qualified or he gets injured. So Watkins may get one game. If the unthinkable happened and both Kane and Watkins got injured there's Bowen and Bellingham as a false 9. Bowen is much more likely to play than Toney. You could actually make a better case for Toney out for Braithwaite.
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Toney is the plan B - you can go long to him and he causes chaos in the box. Which international defender is going to be happy seeing him coming on with 10 mins to go and Trent pinging diagonals to his bonce

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 3 minutes ago
We have a real problem in defence. Maguire never really cut it for me, but the fact that Southgate refused to try out players for many of the games means we have no proven replacements. I think our best defender to partner Stones would be Gomes. But surely taking a left footer like Colwill could have been an option. Likewise, Chilwell has been average when he's played this season, but he's left footed and can actually cover Shaw and give us something going forward, unlike Trippier.

I do think we should have taken Grealish too as he actually does offer something different, an x-factor. Not saying he would start but he always takes on players and wins fouls.

For all the quality we have in certain areas, we do seriously lack in others, and in depth.
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Guehi plays on the left and will almost certainly now start alongside Stones. Yes he is right footed, but he is very comfortable there.

I would have taken Branthwaite though
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Branthwaite should be there. You're really going to struggle aerially if Stones and Guehi are your centre backs.
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Maybe that’s why Dunk is going

posted on 6/6/24

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Defence is a concern without Maguire. Would have preferred to see Branthwaite in for Dunk. I would have taken Grealish over Bowen as well.
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I'd have took Grealish over Toney. Really no reason to bring Toney. Kane is obviously going to start every game, unless it's the third group stage game and England are qualified or he gets injured. So Watkins may get one game. If the unthinkable happened and both Kane and Watkins got injured there's Bowen and Bellingham as a false 9. Bowen is much more likely to play than Toney. You could actually make a better case for Toney out for Braithwaite.
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Toney offers value if we go to pens. For that alone he’s worth a place in the squad. Grealish is generally rubbish for England so it’s not a huge loss, but he could have been useful for helping to see out a game with his ball retention and defensive work, which is why I’m surprised he didn’t get called up.

Eze can offer more of a spark in attack so I so get that one. Guessing Southgate must have wanted Bowen for runs in behind maybe, but he’s crap for England and unlikely to play any minutes with Saka, Palmer and Foden being options on the left so I’m indifferent.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 17 seconds ago
I think England looks relatively vulnerable at the back, especially the fullback positions. Not saying that there were better options, but this squad is not as stacked as the most media wants you to believe.
Dropping Maddison and Grealish might lose you some unpredictability and creativity against teams that park the bus. I don't really know Gordon and Bowen that well, but aren't they more cookie cutter/text book players?
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I agree on Grealish but I am not that fussed about Maddison. Likewise, Gordon and Bowen are, meh, for me. Glad Eze made it as he gives us some directness although we will have to see 8f he can cut it at international level. We have Walker as a full back and he offers a little of everything but the left back position and the partner for Stones is a worry imo
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Yeah I mean if the other guys are in their club form, you don't really need Maddison. Trying to see what a plan b looks like when things aren't going well, maybe Gordon is that Wallcot like player as Strike mentioned his pace.

Surprisingly there are not many countries with a big pinchhitter, the days of Crouch, Heskey, Pi-Air, are mostly gone...
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Ivan Toney - that’s what he is there for

posted on 6/6/24

I'm quite happy with the make up of the squad which apart from Ben White ludicrously not being involved is on paper I think the best squad of all the competing nations and gives England their best opportunity to finally win a major tournament....Only indecisive, over causcious and a non pro active attitude not making the most of our many wonderful creative, attack minded goal scoring options can stop us.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.
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He will surely play the first choice defence tomorrow - my guess is that it will be Walker, Stones, Guehi and Shaw.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Macca & The Metal Hips: fka Wheelchair Dave (U8194)
posted 1 minute ago
I'm quite happy with the make up of the squad which apart from Ben White ludicrously not being involved is on paper I think the best squad of all the competing nations and gives England their best opportunity to finally win a major tournament....Only indecisive, over causcious and a non pro active attitude not making the most of our many wonderful creative, attack minded goal scoring options can stop us.

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Winning another major tournament

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.
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He will surely play the first choice defence tomorrow - my guess is that it will be Walker, Stones, Guehi and Shaw.
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I dunno, is Shaw even in line to be fit for the group stage?

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.
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He will surely play the first choice defence tomorrow - my guess is that it will be Walker, Stones, Guehi and Shaw.
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I dunno, is Shaw even in line to be fit for the group stage?
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He has to be right? Surely they aren’t taking Luke faaacking Shaw just for the outside hope of a knockout game appearance.

posted on 6/6/24

By the way, haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but is the GK position not worrying?
Ramsdale hasn't played that much, Pickford is playing for relegation fodder Everton and I lost sight of Henderson when he left Utd (Sheffield?)

posted on 6/6/24

Glad Twastic Jack didn't make it. Overrated 115 cheat

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.
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He will surely play the first choice defence tomorrow - my guess is that it will be Walker, Stones, Guehi and Shaw.
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I dunno, is Shaw even in line to be fit for the group stage?
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He has to be right? Surely they aren’t taking Luke faaacking Shaw just for the outside hope of a knockout game appearance.
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He said he’s on track to take some part in the second group game.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 3 minutes ago
By the way, haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but is the GK position not worrying?
Ramsdale hasn't played that much, Pickford is playing for relegation fodder Everton and I lost sight of Henderson when he left Utd (Sheffield?)
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Not really no. Pickford is the established number one and only injury will change that. Pickford hasn’t let England down yet and has the rare achievement of winning a penalty shoot out in England colours

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.
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He will surely play the first choice defence tomorrow - my guess is that it will be Walker, Stones, Guehi and Shaw.
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I dunno, is Shaw even in line to be fit for the group stage?
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He has to be right? Surely they aren’t taking Luke faaacking Shaw just for the outside hope of a knockout game appearance.
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He said he’s on track to take some part in the second group game.
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Oh okay I missed that.

Trippier at Left back I presume - there’s our major weakness. I presume Rice will be covering a lot and Gallagher might have to start

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Lerradinho (U21557)
posted 2 minutes ago
By the way, haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but is the GK position not worrying?
Ramsdale hasn't played that much, Pickford is playing for relegation fodder Everton and I lost sight of Henderson when he left Utd (Sheffield?)
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The problem is, who else is there? Ramsdale hasn't played this season, Pope's been injured and there's no groundswell of talented English keepers.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.
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He will surely play the first choice defence tomorrow - my guess is that it will be Walker, Stones, Guehi and Shaw.
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I dunno, is Shaw even in line to be fit for the group stage?
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He has to be right? Surely they aren’t taking Luke faaacking Shaw just for the outside hope of a knockout game appearance.
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He said he’s on track to take some part in the second group game.
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The problem is there are too many "ifs". Remember that Shaw wasn't having the best of seasons before his injury, what, five months ago? He has to recover, get fit and find form in a tournament situation. That's what makes the absence of a left footed defender a puzzle. The right footers will offer no width and find it difficult to link up. Unless he plays the left back inverted to give more cover in the centre and allows or Walker or TAA attacking freedom.

posted on 6/6/24

comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - Laughing at Arsenals nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Wonder if we might slot Gomez in to help with defending in the air, we’ll be weak there without Maguire, and knockout ties can so often be decided on a set piece.
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He will surely play the first choice defence tomorrow - my guess is that it will be Walker, Stones, Guehi and Shaw.
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I dunno, is Shaw even in line to be fit for the group stage?
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He has to be right? Surely they aren’t taking Luke faaacking Shaw just for the outside hope of a knockout game appearance.
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He said he’s on track to take some part in the second group game.
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Oh okay I missed that.

Trippier at Left back I presume - there’s our major weakness. I presume Rice will be covering a lot and Gallagher might have to start
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Yeah or maybe Gomez starts against Iceland.

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