comment by Brian Gittins (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
This has given me an idea, might do a Scholes v Gerrard article, some early feedback would be appreciated
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Why lower Scholes to comparisons with Gerrard. He should be compared to greats like Zico, Matthaus, Zindane and Xavi
Easily Cristiano Ronaldo. Not really a debate
As a footballer, Ronaldo Nazario was better.
Injuries stopped him.
Is it fair to say that in the CR7 era the wealth disparity between elite clubs and the rest was greater, and the consequent dominance they exerted benefits the stats of individual players? R9 at Barcelona had some talented team mates but probably not quite the supporting cast he'd have enjoyed a decade later.
Another observation I'd make is that CR7's incredible goals to game numbers at his peak are as much a product of superhuman efficiency / focus as superhuman talent. No other player in the modern game is close to him in being ready for every chance and so focused on executing perfectly. That's not an argument against him, but I think it's understandable that many are more impressed by a player who showed more imagination and audaciousness in his goal scoring, and who made impossible things look easy.
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 5 minutes ago
Easily Cristiano Ronaldo. Not really a debate
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Haaland is outstatting CR7. Record goalscorer in the PL in first season at a young age. Out does Ronaldo in every department apart from speed. Almost a goal a game in his career whilst still young. He scores more goals than CR7 so he is better.
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
Haaland is outstatting CR7. Record goalscorer in the PL in first season at a young age. Out does Ronaldo in every department apart from speed. Almost a goal a game in his career whilst still young. He scores more goals than CR7 so he is better.
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The stats don't lie
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 21 seconds ago
Easily Cristiano Ronaldo. Not really a debate
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Well yes, it is a debate. The OP asked for at their peak, not their careers. Some seem to forget that.
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 48 seconds ago
If you are finding this hard to decide then sorry but you need to watch more football.
Peak fat Ronaldo lasted about 2.5 seasons.
Peak CR7 lasted about 10.
It's not even close. I have FR as an elite level player for sure. He was very scary during those 2 or so seasons but there's been a lot of "very scary" players.
CR7 on the other hand in what he has done, achieved and his longevity is mind bending.
CR7 is a top 5 player of all time
FR is a top 15 player of all time
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It’s always those that say ‘you need to watch more football’ who are the ones who need to watch more
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Are you saying he needs to watch more football?
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 48 seconds ago
If you are finding this hard to decide then sorry but you need to watch more football.
Peak fat Ronaldo lasted about 2.5 seasons.
Peak CR7 lasted about 10.
It's not even close. I have FR as an elite level player for sure. He was very scary during those 2 or so seasons but there's been a lot of "very scary" players.
CR7 on the other hand in what he has done, achieved and his longevity is mind bending.
CR7 is a top 5 player of all time
FR is a top 15 player of all time
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It’s always those that say ‘you need to watch more football’ who are the ones who need to watch more
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Are you saying he needs to watch more football?
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He needs to watch more football
Ronaldo was clearly better than Ronaldo.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 48 seconds ago
If you are finding this hard to decide then sorry but you need to watch more football.
Peak fat Ronaldo lasted about 2.5 seasons.
Peak CR7 lasted about 10.
It's not even close. I have FR as an elite level player for sure. He was very scary during those 2 or so seasons but there's been a lot of "very scary" players.
CR7 on the other hand in what he has done, achieved and his longevity is mind bending.
CR7 is a top 5 player of all time
FR is a top 15 player of all time
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It’s always those that say ‘you need to watch more football’ who are the ones who need to watch more
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Are you saying he needs to watch more football?
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If you're finding it hard to decide if he needs to watch more football then you need to watch more football
He clearly wasn't the best in any measurable way but Ronaldinho on his day was the best player I've seen play.
Fat Ronaldo is closer to that "best" than CR7 but out the three CR7 was the best player overall
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 43 seconds ago
He clearly wasn't the best in any measurable way but Ronaldinho on his day was the best player I've seen play.
Fat Ronaldo is closer to that "best" than CR7 but out the three CR7 was the best player overall
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I always say the same. In terms of natural ability, he's the best I've seen. He just liked to party and wasn't especially driven or professional.
R9 got me on the edge of my seat more and had a better tournament record, well certainly in the big one but overall, CR7
Who would you pay most to go watch - Best, Ronaldinho, R9, JJ, Maradona and R7 is well down that list.
Even when R7 was doing stepovers he was cvnty.
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?
CR7 was defo the most effective, professional, dedicated of the two which in turn allows him to post such high stats and trophies, R9 was all about the almost 100% natural talent, I say "almost" as he must have trained and been coached to a certain degree but saying who's "better" is tough and down to how individuals view their choice?
One point I dont think has been made yet is how good would it have been to see them both at their peaks in the same side?
at their peak R9 was a higher level.
CR7 was able to sustain a higher level over his whole career.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?
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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider.
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Not in this article it’s not.
Also, R9 certainly wasn’t a box player.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider.
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Not in this article it’s not.
Also, R9 certainly wasn’t a box player.
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If anything out of the two CR7 was more the box player
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Is it obviously R9?
Cristiano won more, scored more, played longer, had all the skill and speed R9 had.
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Ronaldo had skills, but he wasn't as gifted as R9 in that department.
The difference between them is the mentality and injuries.
Both incredible though.
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?
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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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This screams 'I never watched R9 play'
"unlike R9 who was more of a box player,"
Jesus Christ
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posted on 11/6/24
comment by Brian Gittins (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
This has given me an idea, might do a Scholes v Gerrard article, some early feedback would be appreciated
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Why lower Scholes to comparisons with Gerrard. He should be compared to greats like Zico, Matthaus, Zindane and Xavi
posted on 11/6/24
Easily Cristiano Ronaldo. Not really a debate
posted on 11/6/24
As a footballer, Ronaldo Nazario was better.
Injuries stopped him.
posted on 11/6/24
Is it fair to say that in the CR7 era the wealth disparity between elite clubs and the rest was greater, and the consequent dominance they exerted benefits the stats of individual players? R9 at Barcelona had some talented team mates but probably not quite the supporting cast he'd have enjoyed a decade later.
Another observation I'd make is that CR7's incredible goals to game numbers at his peak are as much a product of superhuman efficiency / focus as superhuman talent. No other player in the modern game is close to him in being ready for every chance and so focused on executing perfectly. That's not an argument against him, but I think it's understandable that many are more impressed by a player who showed more imagination and audaciousness in his goal scoring, and who made impossible things look easy.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 5 minutes ago
Easily Cristiano Ronaldo. Not really a debate
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Are you a Reform voter?
posted on 11/6/24
Haaland is outstatting CR7. Record goalscorer in the PL in first season at a young age. Out does Ronaldo in every department apart from speed. Almost a goal a game in his career whilst still young. He scores more goals than CR7 so he is better.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Alan Gilzean (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
Haaland is outstatting CR7. Record goalscorer in the PL in first season at a young age. Out does Ronaldo in every department apart from speed. Almost a goal a game in his career whilst still young. He scores more goals than CR7 so he is better.
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The stats don't lie
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 21 seconds ago
Easily Cristiano Ronaldo. Not really a debate
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Well yes, it is a debate. The OP asked for at their peak, not their careers. Some seem to forget that.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 48 seconds ago
If you are finding this hard to decide then sorry but you need to watch more football.
Peak fat Ronaldo lasted about 2.5 seasons.
Peak CR7 lasted about 10.
It's not even close. I have FR as an elite level player for sure. He was very scary during those 2 or so seasons but there's been a lot of "very scary" players.
CR7 on the other hand in what he has done, achieved and his longevity is mind bending.
CR7 is a top 5 player of all time
FR is a top 15 player of all time
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It’s always those that say ‘you need to watch more football’ who are the ones who need to watch more
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Are you saying he needs to watch more football?
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 48 seconds ago
If you are finding this hard to decide then sorry but you need to watch more football.
Peak fat Ronaldo lasted about 2.5 seasons.
Peak CR7 lasted about 10.
It's not even close. I have FR as an elite level player for sure. He was very scary during those 2 or so seasons but there's been a lot of "very scary" players.
CR7 on the other hand in what he has done, achieved and his longevity is mind bending.
CR7 is a top 5 player of all time
FR is a top 15 player of all time
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It’s always those that say ‘you need to watch more football’ who are the ones who need to watch more
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Are you saying he needs to watch more football?
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He needs to watch more football
posted on 11/6/24
Ronaldo was clearly better than Ronaldo.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by UmaThurmans_BigToe (U22864)
posted 48 seconds ago
If you are finding this hard to decide then sorry but you need to watch more football.
Peak fat Ronaldo lasted about 2.5 seasons.
Peak CR7 lasted about 10.
It's not even close. I have FR as an elite level player for sure. He was very scary during those 2 or so seasons but there's been a lot of "very scary" players.
CR7 on the other hand in what he has done, achieved and his longevity is mind bending.
CR7 is a top 5 player of all time
FR is a top 15 player of all time
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It’s always those that say ‘you need to watch more football’ who are the ones who need to watch more
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Are you saying he needs to watch more football?
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If you're finding it hard to decide if he needs to watch more football then you need to watch more football
posted on 11/6/24
He clearly wasn't the best in any measurable way but Ronaldinho on his day was the best player I've seen play.
Fat Ronaldo is closer to that "best" than CR7 but out the three CR7 was the best player overall
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 43 seconds ago
He clearly wasn't the best in any measurable way but Ronaldinho on his day was the best player I've seen play.
Fat Ronaldo is closer to that "best" than CR7 but out the three CR7 was the best player overall
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I always say the same. In terms of natural ability, he's the best I've seen. He just liked to party and wasn't especially driven or professional.
posted on 11/6/24
R9 got me on the edge of my seat more and had a better tournament record, well certainly in the big one but overall, CR7
posted on 11/6/24
Who would you pay most to go watch - Best, Ronaldinho, R9, JJ, Maradona and R7 is well down that list.
Even when R7 was doing stepovers he was cvnty.
posted on 11/6/24
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?
posted on 11/6/24
CR7 was defo the most effective, professional, dedicated of the two which in turn allows him to post such high stats and trophies, R9 was all about the almost 100% natural talent, I say "almost" as he must have trained and been coached to a certain degree but saying who's "better" is tough and down to how individuals view their choice?
One point I dont think has been made yet is how good would it have been to see them both at their peaks in the same side?
posted on 11/6/24
at their peak R9 was a higher level.
CR7 was able to sustain a higher level over his whole career.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?
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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
posted on 11/6/24
Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider.
———-
Not in this article it’s not.
Also, R9 certainly wasn’t a box player.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider.
———-
Not in this article it’s not.
Also, R9 certainly wasn’t a box player.
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If anything out of the two CR7 was more the box player
posted on 11/6/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Is it obviously R9?
Cristiano won more, scored more, played longer, had all the skill and speed R9 had.
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Ronaldo had skills, but he wasn't as gifted as R9 in that department.
The difference between them is the mentality and injuries.
Both incredible though.
posted on 11/6/24
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?
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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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This screams 'I never watched R9 play'
posted on 11/6/24
"unlike R9 who was more of a box player,"
Jesus Christ
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