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posted on 11/6/24

comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider.
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Not in this article it’s not.

Also, R9 certainly wasn’t a box player.
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If anything out of the two CR7 was more the box player
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Certainly after he left Utd, where he also became pretty dull to watch imo

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 11/6/24

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 18 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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I think that there is an argument that he could do everything to a very high level. When he first broke through he was an exciting and tricky winger. He could dribble, beat a man with pace and had a few tricks. He was very entertaining to watch - albeit not Ronaldinho level. As he progressed through his career to developed his game and became more dangerous in front of goal, scoring more and adapting his role/position. He was both a world class winger/wide forward and striker.

When you look at his goals, he was/is extremely dangerous in any situation; long range, tap ins, headers, penalties, freekicks, left or right foot etc. He was pretty much the complete striker. Is there another player in the list of those we are discussing that could do all of that to the level that Ronaldo has/does? I don't think so. Some of them might be better in 1 or 2 areas, but overall I think you can argue that Ronaldo has the higher average skillset/ability across the board.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Is it obviously R9?

Cristiano won more, scored more, played longer, had all the skill and speed R9 had.
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Ronaldo had skills, but he wasn't as gifted as R9 in that department.

The difference between them is the mentality and injuries.

Both incredible though.
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yup, and mentality and having a body that can hold up are equally as important.

In my lifetime however I think for those years we saw R9 at his peak he was the best striker I have ever seen.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider.
———-

Not in this article it’s not.

Also, R9 certainly wasn’t a box player.
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More so than CR7, although the latter later became one. CR7 at Utd was a totally different player to the one at Madrid.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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This screams 'I never watched R9 play'
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I did and he was more of a box player than a young CR7. say the opposite and you may not have seen him play!

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 11/6/24

Let’s be honest CR7 is a massive throbber and that counts more than longevity.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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R9 wasn't a box player at all. One of his main strengths was his dribbling ability. He was both skillful and powerful - and absolutely lethal combination and defenders just couldn't stop him when he was in his peak.

posted on 11/6/24

Fair points. The only reason I'd include longevity as a factor though is that it gives you more chance to develop your game and add strings to your bow, and I'd readily admit that CR7 did actually make the most of that circumstance.

The other points you allude to about being more rounded or versatile are relevant too, although they're probably related to other factors too.

It's pretty safe to say that if we never saw R9 on the wing, it's likely because he was so devastating playing centrally from such an extremely young age that you'd always have chosen to put him in front of goal rather than out wide. I doubt that a young CR7 was put out on the wing as a youngster because he was more devastating there, because that was more a consequence of how the game evolved tactically in the mid-to-late 00s.

I'd also add that R9 didn't just score 'a couple' from mazy runs, he scored loads carrying the ball from outside the box. The way he could sit a 'keeper on his arris just with a little twiddle of his hips was a thing of absolutely beauty.

Anyhow, if I was given the choice of watching peak R9 or peak CR7, I would undoubtably pick R9 every day of the week. For he was just a way more exciting player to watch, and that's mainly what I'd base it on.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 11/6/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Is it obviously R9?

Cristiano won more, scored more, played longer, had all the skill and speed R9 had.
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Ronaldo had skills, but he wasn't as gifted as R9 in that department.

The difference between them is the mentality and injuries.

Both incredible though.
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yup, and mentality and having a body that can hold up are equally as important.

In my lifetime however I think for those years we saw R9 at his peak he was the best striker I have ever seen.
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He came to OT when his body was wrecked and still got a standing ovation.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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This screams 'I never watched R9 play'
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I did and he was more of a box player than a young CR7. say the opposite and you may not have seen him play!
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I’m not sure how but you seem to be forgetting how good R9 was at creating. He was a better crosser of the ball than CR7 ever was for example, and overall his passing was better long and short.

I suspect many just watch his best goals and think, oh yeah, great dribbler, but he was every inch the complete forward in his pomp. Box player he absolutely wasn’t.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 58 seconds ago
Let’s be honest CR7 is a massive throbber and that counts more than longevity.
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something to be said about having a massive LONGevity throbber however , just ask Holloways hamster

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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This screams 'I never watched R9 play'
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I did and he was more of a box player than a young CR7. say the opposite and you may not have seen him play!
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I’m not sure how but you seem to be forgetting how good R9 was at creating. He was a better crosser of the ball than CR7 ever was for example, and overall his passing was better long and short.

I suspect many just watch his best goals and think, oh yeah, great dribbler, but he was every inch the complete forward in his pomp. Box player he absolutely wasn’t.
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How good would you say he was in the air Robbing? My memory is failing me here.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider.
———-

Not in this article it’s not.

Also, R9 certainly wasn’t a box player.
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If anything out of the two CR7 was more the box player
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Certainly after he left Utd, where he also became pretty dull to watch imo
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Yep agreed. Not a player you’d look forward to watch since his early 20s. Effective but dull.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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This screams 'I never watched R9 play'
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I did and he was more of a box player than a young CR7. say the opposite and you may not have seen him play!
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I’m not sure how but you seem to be forgetting how good R9 was at creating. He was a better crosser of the ball than CR7 ever was for example, and overall his passing was better long and short.

I suspect many just watch his best goals and think, oh yeah, great dribbler, but he was every inch the complete forward in his pomp. Box player he absolutely wasn’t.
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How good would you say he was in the air Robbing? My memory is failing me here.
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Not great tbf, and that is something that CR7 absolutely destroys him at, because he is arguably the best header of a ball ever really. Monster spring and impeccable timing.

You’d not find many Brazilians that are great in the air though, certainly the forwards. They’re not built that way.

posted on 11/6/24

The interesting thing from R9 was that perhaps we never actually saw how good he could have been. At his best he was top 5 of all time imo but had he not gotten injured and had he had an inbuilt discipline he may have been #1 of all time.

Despite all his issues, to be in the top 5 convo is great.

On a separate note, the whole concept of longevity is a bit soulless. In other fields you’d judge talent ahead of longevity right? Like in my most recent article about rappers most would have Tupac as one of the greats but we only got a few years out of him. Or in bands we only got 7 years of the Beatles but their talent speaks for itself. Or acting - Marlon Brando peaked pretty early and phoned it in for most of his latter career. Still one of the best to ever do it.

posted on 11/6/24

R9 was a baller, supreme striker

CR7 is a show pony and his name is cristiano not ronaldo....not even close

posted on 11/6/24

comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 1 minute ago
R9 was a baller, supreme striker

CR7 is a show pony and his name is cristiano not ronaldo....not even close


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Another daft comment

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
It’s quite obviously R9.
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certainly not obvious but personally I would have R9

posted on 11/6/24

Glad to see most are saying it's an individual choice Football isn't an exact science and judging a two players of their ilk unless the parameters are specific is impossible, of course, imo only

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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R9 was a box player? ffs

posted on 11/6/24

A box player? R9?

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Longevity and the amount of goals are massive things to consider. CR7 was better in the air, could play on the wing, obviously in his early career and could score different types of goals, unlike R9 who was more of a box player, although did score one or two from mazy runs.
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This screams 'I never watched R9 play'
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I did and he was more of a box player than a young CR7. say the opposite and you may not have seen him play!
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I’m not sure how but you seem to be forgetting how good R9 was at creating. He was a better crosser of the ball than CR7 ever was for example, and overall his passing was better long and short.

I suspect many just watch his best goals and think, oh yeah, great dribbler, but he was every inch the complete forward in his pomp. Box player he absolutely wasn’t.
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How good would you say he was in the air Robbing? My memory is failing me here.
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Not great tbf, and that is something that CR7 absolutely destroys him at, because he is arguably the best header of a ball ever really. Monster spring and impeccable timing.

You’d not find many Brazilians that are great in the air though, certainly the forwards. They’re not built that way.
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That's what I thought, but my weed intake around his prime was pretty high.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Proffesionalism, drive, fitness, speed, skill, anticipation, finishing, strength, heading.

posted on 11/6/24

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 11/6/24

comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Could those saying CR7 was better overall please explain what they mean without alluding to the fact he had a longer and more successful career?

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Proffesionalism, drive, fitness, speed, skill, anticipation, finishing, strength, heading, throbber

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