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Tories’ Top Ten Crimes Against Britain

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posted on 4/7/24

comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why are the Tories and their voters “scvm” exactly?
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Have you read the OP?

Imagine voting for that and then pretending that you’re in any way a decent human being. I wish Tory voters would just own it and say ‘I want children in poverty, I want the NHS dismantled, I want poor people to miss out on University, I want poor infrastructure’, but they don’t because they’re weasels.

They will invest more in public services. Again, it’s quite simple.
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Have I read the Op? Ahhhh so you are one of the little sheep just following others and not being able to add your own opinion, you’ve shown your a sheep by jumping around who you vote for!

How will they fund it all?

Why did you vote Lib dem instead of Labour?
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None if the OP is opinion based, they’re just facts. Reading facts doesn’t make me a sheep. Jumping around and choosing Lib Dem’s once makes me a sheep? It really doesn’t, quite the opposite.

You’re welcome to vote for the Tories, but you’ve not been able to give a single credible reason as to why, which speaks volumes.

posted on 4/7/24

Have I read the Op? Ahhhh so you are one of the little sheep just following others and not being able to add your own opinion, you’ve shown your a sheep by jumping around who you vote for!
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I love it when this guy uses words and analogies that make no sense.

A sheep is someone who changes their vote rather than someone who votes Tory, despite mountains of evidence of what cuuuuunts they are, because they’ve always voted Tory.

posted on 4/7/24

You guys always just end up arguing with the stupidest person on the article and never learn.

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Jim Duffy (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
You guys always just end up arguing with the stupidest person on the article and never learn.
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Haha this is so true, I’m fvcking terrible for it.

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Jim Duffy (U1734)
posted 1 minute ago
You guys always just end up arguing with the stupidest person on the article and never learn.
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It happens a lot on here doesnt it Barry.

posted on 4/7/24

But the majority of people in this country are stupid, so I guess it's them you need to convince. You don't do that with intelligent arguments though. Study them, learn what evokes them the most. Then use your intelligence to trick them. Be less direct.

posted on 4/7/24

Ten Hag signs extension, this really could be a great day.

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why are the Tories and their voters “scvm” exactly?
——————

Have you read the OP?

Imagine voting for that and then pretending that you’re in any way a decent human being. I wish Tory voters would just own it and say ‘I want children in poverty, I want the NHS dismantled, I want poor people to miss out on University, I want poor infrastructure’, but they don’t because they’re weasels.

They will invest more in public services. Again, it’s quite simple.
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Have I read the Op? Ahhhh so you are one of the little sheep just following others and not being able to add your own opinion, you’ve shown your a sheep by jumping around who you vote for!

How will they fund it all?

Why did you vote Lib dem instead of Labour?
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None if the OP is opinion based, they’re just facts. Reading facts doesn’t make me a sheep. Jumping around and choosing Lib Dem’s once makes me a sheep? It really doesn’t, quite the opposite.

You’re welcome to vote for the Tories, but you’ve not been able to give a single credible reason as to why, which speaks volumes.
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So why did you vote lib dems?

posted on 4/7/24

Because I wasn’t happy with Labour, their leadership or their foreign policy.

I will literally donate money to a charity of your choice if you can explain how that makes me a sheep.

posted on 4/7/24

Good morning fellow JA606'ers.

I have read through some of the comments and there is some incredible mental gymnastics and vileness from both sides of the coin on display.

If I was back in the UK, I would be voting Labour, not because they are offering anything drastically different but because the Tories have been so bad.

Let us hope Starmer can unite the country for the good and benefit of us all. And I say us because I will be back living in the UK by the end of next year.

Tolerance for other people's views would be a good start for some of you on here instead of displaying any lack of empathy by just grouping all Tory voters as $ cuum. That alone makes you no better than them.

posted on 4/7/24

I really, really mean it if that helps.

posted on 4/7/24

Robbing Hoody? More like Ramming Herdy! 🐏

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 4/7/24

It's been a tough 4/5 years for the whole world to be honest. The pandemic was unprecedented and we weren't prepared, nobody was. Furlough was always going to be a burden on the nation, it will for some time.

Then as we come out of covid, Vlad decided to wage a war in Europe, causing an energy crisis we were again, unprepared for, you can blame that on the government but Labour aren't fixing it either.

No doubt, since Cameron left, Conservatives have been an absolute disaster.

Hopefully Labour can do better, people think it can't get any worse, but it certainly can. Life's never been so good as it has the past 25 years.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Dennis - Always Leeds - Always Loyal. (U23086)
posted 3 hours, 31 minutes ago
Wouldn't disagree with any of this.

The single thing that amazes me is the architect of all this sh!t, came back as our foreign minister, he's not in prison, where he should be, for causing all of the mayhem that has led to so many of our children dead.

Austerity, Cameron, knife crime, it makes me so angry.
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Fair to say Blair cost hundreds of thousands more lives though. He got away with it.

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
We never learn as a country do we? Every single time there’s a change in government we convince ourselves it can’t be any worse than the previous lot and that this new bunch are going to change Britain. Every single time we’re left disappointed

Blair - ended up practically committing war crimes based on false information and becoming Bush’s poodle.

Brown -Simply awful - announced he’d eradicated boom and bust before the financial crisis and sold off UKs gold reserves at historic lows.

Tory/Lib - Used the nations finances as an excuse to roll out a damaging programme of austerity we’ve never recovered from

Cameron - Gave the UK a Brexit vote to win power

Johnson - lied about everything


It doesn’t matter. UK politics is fundamentally broken and those anti-tories ready to celebrate tomorrow are in for an almighty shock in 2 years

Guess where we will back to then? The rise of the far right

No one has anything to celebrate
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This is how I think.
It's why I can't understand why people are so quick to vote for labour as well. Every politician is a piece of sh!t and they will all lie to get in to power for their own gain.

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Exactly the kind of apathetic cynicism that has authoritarians licking their lips.

The Blair-Brown government had plenty of faults, but it did lift a million children and a million pensioners out of poverty, and significantly improved the NHS and education. The international financial crash drastically hit all mature economies and those that took a Keynesian pathway of investing rather than the Tory approach of drastic cut-backs generally recovered better and faster. There are genuine choices to be made, and better choices will lead to better outcomes.
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I’m not saying that the Labour Party didn’t achieve some good things. They did. But it’s really too simplistic to cast one political party as pure evil and another as pure as the driven snow.

In reality we’ve been living under the same kind of Thatcher influenced government of one form or another since 1979. Blair got into power by becoming a Tory - he even had Thatcher into Downing Street ffs.

The disappointing reality for most Labour supporters is that Starmer is going to win power by sweeping up some Tory votes. And he’ll keep power by balancing his policies to keep in the centre ground.

For that reason you’ll never see real change - just versions of the same thing. Yep this government has been a shocker. Yep Starmer will be better - but if you think things are going to really significantly change under his leadership I think you’ll be very disappointed

Other than maybe nationalising rail - there’s not much to see here

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
Because I wasn’t happy with Labour, their leadership or their foreign policy.

I will literally donate money to a charity of your choice if you can explain how that makes me a sheep.
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So are you telling me you voted lib dem off your own back or were you swayed?

You’ve been repeating the things people call the Tory party and voters… baaaa

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 4/7/24

My eldest came downstairs wearing a Conservative Party t-shirt earlier this morning and said he was off out to do some last minute local campaigning. So far, he's been verbally abused, spat at and physically pushed around.
I wonder what will happen to him when he leaves the house?

posted on 4/7/24

comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
Because I wasn’t happy with Labour, their leadership or their foreign policy.

I will literally donate money to a charity of your choice if you can explain how that makes me a sheep.
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So are you telling me you voted lib dem off your own back or were you swayed?

You’ve been repeating the things people call the Tory party and voters… baaaa
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Yes, on a local level Labour we’re also awful but I’ve not got time to go into that.

Most people say grass is green, because it is, that doesn’t make them sheep. In the same way, Tories are fvcking scvm.

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 15 minutes ago
It's been a tough 4/5 years for the whole world to be honest. The pandemic was unprecedented and we weren't prepared, nobody was. Furlough was always going to be a burden on the nation, it will for some time.

Then as we come out of covid, Vlad decided to wage a war in Europe, causing an energy crisis we were again, unprepared for, you can blame that on the government but Labour aren't fixing it either.

No doubt, since Cameron left, Conservatives have been an absolute disaster.

Hopefully Labour can do better, people think it can't get any worse, but it certainly can. Life's never been so good as it has the past 25 years.
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Of the five consecutive Tory PMs we’ve had, Cameron was entirely responsible for austerity, and primarily responsible for Brexit.

He’s arguably done more damage to the country than the four who followed him combined.

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 28 minutes ago
Tolerance for other people's views would be a good start for some of you on here instead of displaying any lack of empathy by just grouping all Tory voters as $ cuum. That alone makes you no better than them.
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Unfortunately certain posters can’t help themselves, one starts with the scuuuum talk and the others follow! 🐑

posted on 4/7/24

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 2 minutes ago
My eldest came downstairs wearing a Conservative Party t-shirt earlier this morning and said he was off out to do some last minute local campaigning. So far, he's been verbally abused, spat at and physically pushed around.
I wonder what will happen to him when he leaves the house?
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posted on 4/7/24

In the same way, Tories are fvcking scvm.

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What an odious individual.

posted on 4/7/24

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 15 minutes ago
It's been a tough 4/5 years for the whole world to be honest. The pandemic was unprecedented and we weren't prepared, nobody was. Furlough was always going to be a burden on the nation, it will for some time.

Then as we come out of covid, Vlad decided to wage a war in Europe, causing an energy crisis we were again, unprepared for, you can blame that on the government but Labour aren't fixing it either.

No doubt, since Cameron left, Conservatives have been an absolute disaster.

Hopefully Labour can do better, people think it can't get any worse, but it certainly can. Life's never been so good as it has the past 25 years.
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Of the five consecutive Tory PMs we’ve had, Cameron was entirely responsible for austerity, and primarily responsible for Brexit.

He’s arguably done more damage to the country than the four who followed him combined.
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History will remember Cameron as the architect of this shiiiiitshow.

posted on 4/7/24

98 Problems

Would I like Labour to be more radical? - Definitely.

But I think those of us on the Left need to zoom into the detail more when it comes to our assessments. Blair-Brown were certainly on the right of the Labour party and very open to 'market solutions'. However, if we think about the material impacts, the difference between Blair-Brown and the Tory governments that came before and even more afterwards are pretty radical. Labour proactively and successfully drove millions of people out of poverty, created Sure Start to bring about more equal outcomes in educational achievement, made a huge difference to the NHS. They didn't attack supply-side economics, but they didn't promote it explicitly at the expense of human and societal wellbeing. I don't think these are trivial distinctions.

Similarly, while I'm disappointed that Starmer's Labour isn't much more ambitious in its investment plans, as I see it there are radical differences with the Tories in terms of actually recognising that public services are underfunded, in promoting much more state involvement in the economy (national energy company, emphasis on industrial strategy, etc.) and of course not actively pushing us down the road of post-truth populist authoritarianism.

posted on 4/7/24

My constituency is predicted to be 34.9% Labour, 34.3% SNP. Talk about votes mattering eh lads?

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