comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 10 minutes ago
is anyone here voting for lib dems?
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I have but I’m now in a safe Labour seat
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Lets hope you all dont vote LD, then?

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 10 minutes ago
is anyone here voting for lib dems?
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I have but I’m now in a safe Labour seat
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Lets hope you all dont vote LD, then?
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No chance

My own personal protest vote even though I like the Labour MP

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 3 minutes ago
My vote is in - even looking at a landslide to Labour, I’m sticking to the Tories.
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Just for banter… why?

Not saying you shouldn’t, I just don’t understand working class Tories, it’s insane to me.
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Well I’m sure for any party to be voted into power they have to rely on the “.working class” to vote for them!

comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 3 minutes ago
My vote is in - even looking at a landslide to Labour, I’m sticking to the Tories.
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Just for banter… why?

Not saying you shouldn’t, I just don’t understand working class Tories, it’s insane to me.
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Well I’m sure for any party to be voted into power they have to rely on the “.working class” to vote for them!
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Which is fine, but not the question.

We never learn as a country do we? Every single time there’s a change in government we convince ourselves it can’t be any worse than the previous lot and that this new bunch are going to change Britain. Every single time we’re left disappointed

Blair - ended up practically committing war crimes based on false information and becoming Bush’s poodle.

Brown -Simply awful - announced he’d eradicated boom and bust before the financial crisis and sold off UKs gold reserves at historic lows.

Tory/Lib - Used the nations finances as an excuse to roll out a damaging programme of austerity we’ve never recovered from

Cameron - Gave the UK a Brexit vote to win power

Johnson - lied about everything


It doesn’t matter. UK politics is fundamentally broken and those anti-tories ready to celebrate tomorrow are in for an almighty shock in 2 years

Guess where we will back to then? The rise of the far right

No one has anything to celebrate

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 3 minutes ago
My vote is in - even looking at a landslide to Labour, I’m sticking to the Tories.
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Just for banter… why?

Not saying you shouldn’t, I just don’t understand working class Tories, it’s insane to me.
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Well I’m sure for any party to be voted into power they have to rely on the “.working class” to vote for them!
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Which is fine, but not the question.
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On a personal level I’ve done alright from the Tories, I always voted Tory, even though I haven’t always agreed with everything they’ve done, I also voted to remain.

There has to be something mentally wrong with a person to vote for the Tories after the last 14 years.

And after all this millions will still vote for them today, mental.

Pure scuuuum

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 seconds ago
There has to be something mentally wrong with a person to vote for the Tories after the last 14 years.
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There seem to be a few in the old Red Wall seats who are sticking with the Tories because they won’t admit they dropped a bollok in 2019

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 13 minutes ago
Excellent summary, Rosso. Two comments:

- It's quite extraordinary that most of this, including the top three, hasn't featured in the election, and isn't even being mentioned by Labour. One of the reasons I worry that they can come back. Everyone hates them now, but I don't think it's particularly deeply understood why they deserve it.
- In the context of the popularity of Reform nationally and, apparently, in this forum, worth noting that Farage has no significant differences with the Tories when it comes to pretty much all of these things. He lavishly praised Truss's budget. He has the authoritarian streak, the populist dishonesty. The libertarianism that lay behind keeping business open rather than saving lives.
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I think both of those points can be covered to a not insignificant extent by the fact that strong media narratives and various dubiously-funded social media campaigns had between them (and still have, I’m quite sure) very many people believing that austerity was necessary, that there is at least one of an infinite number of timelines in which Brexit might have been (and even might yet be) a success, and that lockdowns were an WEF conspiracy designed to enact total control of our movements.

comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
We never learn as a country do we? Every single time there’s a change in government we convince ourselves it can’t be any worse than the previous lot and that this new bunch are going to change Britain. Every single time we’re left disappointed

Blair - ended up practically committing war crimes based on false information and becoming Bush’s poodle.

Brown -Simply awful - announced he’d eradicated boom and bust before the financial crisis and sold off UKs gold reserves at historic lows.

Tory/Lib - Used the nations finances as an excuse to roll out a damaging programme of austerity we’ve never recovered from

Cameron - Gave the UK a Brexit vote to win power

Johnson - lied about everything


It doesn’t matter. UK politics is fundamentally broken and those anti-tories ready to celebrate tomorrow are in for an almighty shock in 2 years

Guess where we will back to then? The rise of the far right

No one has anything to celebrate
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This is how I think.
It's why I can't understand why people are so quick to vote for labour as well. Every politician is a piece of sh!t and they will all lie to get in to power for their own gain.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
And after all this millions will still vote for them today, mental.

Pure scuuuum
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🤣🤣.. They we have it! “Prue scuuuum”! should I follow mentally challenged people this guy and vote as he does!
I think not!!!

‘I’m voting Tory because I’ve always voted Tory’ is actually probably the best reason to vote for them as there is literally nothing else.

They, and their voters, are absolutely vile.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 3 seconds ago
There has to be something mentally wrong with a person to vote for the Tories after the last 14 years.
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There seem to be a few in the old Red Wall seats who are sticking with the Tories because they won’t admit they dropped a bollok in 2019
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Ego is a hell of a thing.

Reading some of the excuses on here as to why people vote in a certain way, you really begin to understand why we're all fooked.

“Prue scuuuum”

I’m not a fan of bake off but that’s a bit harsh.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
‘I’m voting Tory because I’ve always voted Tory’ is actually probably the best reason to vote for them as there is literally nothing else.

They, and their voters, are absolutely vile.
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So who are you voting for and tell me why?

comment by Ali - (U1192)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 3 minutes ago
We never learn as a country do we? Every single time there’s a change in government we convince ourselves it can’t be any worse than the previous lot and that this new bunch are going to change Britain. Every single time we’re left disappointed

Blair - ended up practically committing war crimes based on false information and becoming Bush’s poodle.

Brown -Simply awful - announced he’d eradicated boom and bust before the financial crisis and sold off UKs gold reserves at historic lows.

Tory/Lib - Used the nations finances as an excuse to roll out a damaging programme of austerity we’ve never recovered from

Cameron - Gave the UK a Brexit vote to win power

Johnson - lied about everything


It doesn’t matter. UK politics is fundamentally broken and those anti-tories ready to celebrate tomorrow are in for an almighty shock in 2 years

Guess where we will back to then? The rise of the far right

No one has anything to celebrate
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This is how I think.
It's why I can't understand why people are so quick to vote for labour as well. Every politician is a piece of sh!t and they will all lie to get in to power for their own gain.

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Exactly this.

However as someone who Fosters and works with social services I've seen there resources really stripped back over the last 5 years.

Labour typically put more resources in to community care for all people so that is a good enough reason for me to vote for them.

comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
‘I’m voting Tory because I’ve always voted Tory’ is actually probably the best reason to vote for them as there is literally nothing else.

They, and their voters, are absolutely vile.
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So who are you voting for and tell me why?
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I’ll go Labour this time simply because I want the Tories gone. I suspect the main difference between you and I, is that I’ll vote for what I think is best for the country and it’s citizens and you’ll vote for what’s best for you.

Which is fine of course, even if I don’t have one iota of respect for it.

And everything mentioned in this article combined is not as bad as the Labour government war crimes 😳

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 13 minutes ago
Excellent summary, Rosso. Two comments:

- It's quite extraordinary that most of this, including the top three, hasn't featured in the election, and isn't even being mentioned by Labour. One of the reasons I worry that they can come back. Everyone hates them now, but I don't think it's particularly deeply understood why they deserve it.
- In the context of the popularity of Reform nationally and, apparently, in this forum, worth noting that Farage has no significant differences with the Tories when it comes to pretty much all of these things. He lavishly praised Truss's budget. He has the authoritarian streak, the populist dishonesty. The libertarianism that lay behind keeping business open rather than saving lives.
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I think both of those points can be covered to a not insignificant extent by the fact that strong media narratives and various dubiously-funded social media campaigns had between them (and still have, I’m quite sure) very many people believing that austerity was necessary, that there is at least one of an infinite number of timelines in which Brexit might have been (and even might yet be) a success, and that lockdowns were an WEF conspiracy designed to enact total control of our movements.
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Led up the garden path. I wouldn't have a problem with these if so many people didn't fall for them.

comment by Whang King (U3245)
posted 52 seconds ago
And everything mentioned in this article combined is not as bad as the Labour government war crimes 😳
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You mean the action which all the Tories voted for of course.

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 14 minutes ago
There has to be something mentally wrong with a person to vote for the Tories after the last 14 years.
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He already stated that he just votes for them for personal gain, at the expense of others. Not sure where the personal gain is coming from just now but tories tend to get stuck in their ways, on purpose.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RED666…Out on the “Right Wing”! (U6562)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
‘I’m voting Tory because I’ve always voted Tory’ is actually probably the best reason to vote for them as there is literally nothing else.

They, and their voters, are absolutely vile.
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So who are you voting for and tell me why?
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I’ll go Labour this time simply because I want the Tories gone. I suspect the main difference between you and I, is that I’ll vote for what I think is best for the country and it’s citizens and you’ll vote for what’s best for you.

Which is fine of course, even if I don’t have one iota of respect for it.
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So have you voted for the Tories in the past?

comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Whang King (U3245)
posted 52 seconds ago
And everything mentioned in this article combined is not as bad as the Labour government war crimes 😳
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You mean the action which all the Tories voted for of course.
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So why vote for either. Both scu mmm