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'I was making a point about what triggered these events, and how it’s widened the conflict, which I’d say there’s a very good chance played a big part in the motives behind the original attack. I thought that was pretty obvious"
The continual settlement of Palestinian land, the oppression of Palestinians in both Gaza and the WB, the emboldening and positive reinforcement by western allies and the ignorance of what's happening to Palestinians on the world stage is what triggered these events. All this since 1948.
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Sigh. I’m talking about recent events. Which again, should be blatantly obvious.
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All of the above triggered recent events including the Oct 7th attack.
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So you think the Hamas attack was all for the good of the Palestinians?
How naive.
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Where have I said this?
You don't think the actions of Israel over 5 decades has any bearing on what's happening in Gaza before and after Oct 7th?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-hands-smotrich-full-authority-to-expand-existing-settlements/
I suppose this had nothing to do with escalating tensions in both Gaza and the WB.
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Yes, I’m saying that Hamas carried out the attack for their own purposes and without a single thought for the people they purport to represent. I’ve always said this.
People like you can use history to justify it if it makes you feel better, but I’m saying g it’s false justification. And this is what Hamas are feeding on.
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Well if you know that for sure you crack on with speculation.
Dismiss it as history all you want bit Israels actions have been going on since 48 until present day. Israel illegally settling land, locking up Palestinians without trail, oppressing people in Gaza and the WB is false justification. This is all factual.
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It’s no different to what you’re doing. Difference is that subsequent events back me up more than you. Hamas knew that Israel would retaliate but they went into hiding and left the Palestinian’s to fend for themselves, which they knew they wouldn’t be able to do.
You just cant win when you argue with a thick arrogant angry cuuuunt who thinks this all started on 7th Oct ffs.
Despite all the information out there these cuunts can't even get their heads around that.
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'I was making a point about what triggered these events, and how it’s widened the conflict, which I’d say there’s a very good chance played a big part in the motives behind the original attack. I thought that was pretty obvious"
The continual settlement of Palestinian land, the oppression of Palestinians in both Gaza and the WB, the emboldening and positive reinforcement by western allies and the ignorance of what's happening to Palestinians on the world stage is what triggered these events. All this since 1948.
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Sigh. I’m talking about recent events. Which again, should be blatantly obvious.
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All of the above triggered recent events including the Oct 7th attack.
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So you think the Hamas attack was all for the good of the Palestinians?
How naive.
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Where have I said this?
You don't think the actions of Israel over 5 decades has any bearing on what's happening in Gaza before and after Oct 7th?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-hands-smotrich-full-authority-to-expand-existing-settlements/
I suppose this had nothing to do with escalating tensions in both Gaza and the WB.
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Yes, I’m saying that Hamas carried out the attack for their own purposes and without a single thought for the people they purport to represent. I’ve always said this.
People like you can use history to justify it if it makes you feel better, but I’m saying g it’s false justification. And this is what Hamas are feeding on.
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Well if you know that for sure you crack on with speculation.
Dismiss it as history all you want bit Israels actions have been going on since 48 until present day. Israel illegally settling land, locking up Palestinians without trail, oppressing people in Gaza and the WB is false justification. This is all factual.
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It’s no different to what you’re doing. Difference is that subsequent events back me up more than you. Hamas knew that Israel would retaliate but they went into hiding and left the Palestinian’s to fend for themselves, which they knew they wouldn’t be able to do.
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Ah right your speculation backs you up more than unequivocal facts posted by me back me up.
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
This is a common RW trait, say or do what ever you want, from outright racism to oppressing other people based on.their religion, then act aggrieved or shocked when there are consequences or criticism. You see it with Trump and his fanboys, Putin justifying his actions in Ukraine, Netanyahu trying to rationalise his actions in Gaza and the WB.
They really have serious problem, the lad was talking about football and was nice to them but look and judge for yourself.
https://x.com/DrLoupis/status/1817469667625054244?t=RJRr5hMmpm1WuFzxO99KEw&s=08
How it all started. It didn't start on 7 Oct 2023 as the pro Israel media is trying to tell you
https://youtu.be/UfcwqmWND3Y?si=ZCHf3kMr9Ptsl4QC
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'I was making a point about what triggered these events, and how it’s widened the conflict, which I’d say there’s a very good chance played a big part in the motives behind the original attack. I thought that was pretty obvious"
The continual settlement of Palestinian land, the oppression of Palestinians in both Gaza and the WB, the emboldening and positive reinforcement by western allies and the ignorance of what's happening to Palestinians on the world stage is what triggered these events. All this since 1948.
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Sigh. I’m talking about recent events. Which again, should be blatantly obvious.
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All of the above triggered recent events including the Oct 7th attack.
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So you think the Hamas attack was all for the good of the Palestinians?
How naive.
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Where have I said this?
You don't think the actions of Israel over 5 decades has any bearing on what's happening in Gaza before and after Oct 7th?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-hands-smotrich-full-authority-to-expand-existing-settlements/
I suppose this had nothing to do with escalating tensions in both Gaza and the WB.
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Yes, I’m saying that Hamas carried out the attack for their own purposes and without a single thought for the people they purport to represent. I’ve always said this.
People like you can use history to justify it if it makes you feel better, but I’m saying g it’s false justification. And this is what Hamas are feeding on.
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Well if you know that for sure you crack on with speculation.
Dismiss it as history all you want bit Israels actions have been going on since 48 until present day. Israel illegally settling land, locking up Palestinians without trail, oppressing people in Gaza and the WB is false justification. This is all factual.
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It’s no different to what you’re doing. Difference is that subsequent events back me up more than you. Hamas knew that Israel would retaliate but they went into hiding and left the Palestinian’s to fend for themselves, which they knew they wouldn’t be able to do.
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Ah right your speculation backs you up more than unequivocal facts posted by me back me up.
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
This is a common RW trait, say or do what ever you want, from outright racism to oppressing other people based on.their religion, then act aggrieved or shocked when there are consequences or criticism. You see it with Trump and his fanboys, Putin justifying his actions in Ukraine, Netanyahu trying to rationalise his actions in Gaza and the WB.
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How can you say unequivocally that Hamas’s actions are as a result of historical events preceding it, when they disappeared after their smash and grab and didn’t at least try to protect the Palestinians?
I’m no right winger, that’s just you venting because you can’t accept that it’s not as straightforward as you claim. It’s just as easy for me to say you’re just falling for the Hamas propaganda.
All this historical stuff is relevant if you’re talking about the actual citizens, but don’t use it to justify or explain the actions of Hamas and the events that it triggered.
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 37 minutes ago
You just cant win when you argue with a thick arrogant angry cuuuunt who thinks this all started on 7th Oct ffs.
Despite all the information out there these cuunts can't even get their heads around that.
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Sorry, you’re actually calling someone else angry?
Of course this current round of conflict started with the July attack. It’s feckin obvious you lunatic.
I’m busy for the rest of the day, so I will say this.
Israel is a problem for the Jews and Muslims.
This is Britain, a Christian nation for over 1500 years, you guys, who I’m guessing are British, really would be better served putting your energy into addressing our problems, such as homelessness, poverty, immigration, terrorism.
"How can you say unequivocally that Hamas’s actions are as a result of historical events preceding it, when they disappeared after their smash and grab and didn’t at least try to protect the Palestinians?"
Who can Palestinians turn to for help to stop Israeli settlers taking their land by force, locking them up without trial etc? National authorities, allies in the region, international authorities?
"All this historical stuff is relevant if you’re talking about the actual citizens, but don’t use it to justify or explain the actions of Hamas and the events that it triggered."
I haven't justified anything, I even made a point of stating 'not justifying' clearly in a previous comment. This was conveniently ignored or seems.
That was a general observation about this RW habit of acting shocked or aggrieved at criticism of their abhorrent actions. It's this consensus of do or say what I want matter how objectionable then play the victim when called out on it. I named Trump, Putin and Netanyahu as examples not you, unless you've confused yourself with one or all of them I didn't accuse you of being RW
BBC, Sky et al regularly publish Hamas propaganda do they?
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
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I’m busy for the rest of the day, so I will say this.
Israel is a problem for the Jews and Muslims.
This is Britain, a Christian nation for over 1500 years, you guys, who I’m guessing are British, really would be better served putting your energy into addressing our problems, such as homelessness, poverty, immigration, terrorism
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I wish your British government didn't care about it in 1940s but they along the Rothschild family started all this and helped with the establishment of Israel .
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
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Pretty twisted if you think rape is the consequences of anyone's else's actions and not motivated by self gratification. Do you hate women or something?
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comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
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Pretty twisted if you think rape is the consequences of anyone's else's actions and not motivated by self gratification. Do you hate women or something?
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Again this is not what I've said.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_against_Palestinians_during_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war
Anything to say about this?
Why are you asking questions instead of answering the question?
You have said you think the actions of Hamas are a consequence of Israels actions. If you don't believe they are just say so.
Given that Hamas raped women on 7th October then obviously you believe that's a consequence of Israel's actions. I ask again, do you hate Women?
comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why are you asking questions instead of answering the question?
You have said you think the actions of Hamas are a consequence of Israels actions. If you don't believe they are just say so.
Given that Hamas raped women on 7th October then obviously you believe that's a consequence of Israel's actions. I ask again, do you hate Women?
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You keep posting things I haven't said then asking me to respond to something I haven't said
Thoughts on sexual abuse of Palestinians in Israeli prisons?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
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comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why are you asking questions instead of answering the question?
You have said you think the actions of Hamas are a consequence of Israels actions. If you don't believe they are just say so.
Given that Hamas raped women on 7th October then obviously you believe that's a consequence of Israel's actions. I ask again, do you hate Women?
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You keep posting things I haven't said then asking me to respond to something I haven't said
Thoughts on sexual abuse of Palestinians in Israeli prisons?
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Feckin hell, the pair of you are shameless.
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Yeah that's exactly what I've said isn't it
Funny how me pointing out that the actions of Israel & the lack of recourse at every level for Palestinians lead to extremist groups like Hamas has turned into whatever the fook you think you've read
If that's what you've taken from my posts on Israel & Palestine you must be a bit dim.
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Exactly 👍
Ferdinand & Isabella had the right idea about these desert people 😂
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Yeah that's exactly what I've said isn't it
Funny how me pointing out that the actions of Israel & the lack of recourse at every level for Palestinians lead to extremist groups like Hamas has turned into whatever the fook you think you've read
If that's what you've taken from my posts on Israel & Palestine you must be a bit dim.
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Feck off, all you do is backtrack. Every time you’re called out it’s ‘that’s not what I meant’ or words to that effect.
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Yeah that's exactly what I've said isn't it
Funny how me pointing out that the actions of Israel & the lack of recourse at every level for Palestinians lead to extremist groups like Hamas has turned into whatever the fook you think you've read
If that's what you've taken from my posts on Israel & Palestine you must be a bit dim.
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Feck off, all you do is backtrack. Every time you’re called out it’s ‘that’s not what I meant’ or words to that effect.
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You're going to tell me what I meant now
Yeah do one you mef
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
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I don’t think I’ve had that one yet. Both of these sides have committed horrific acts of violence against each other. Personally it doesn’t affect me so I’m just a casual bystander with no dog in this fight.
However the levels of delusion from both sides as mentioned are just laughable.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
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When has this happened?
Funny how you're ignoring Peks comment, Fernando y Isabella, whilst being angry at what you.think I meant.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
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comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
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comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
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This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
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When has this happened?
Funny how you're ignoring Peks comment, Fernando y Isabella, whilst being angry at what you.think I meant.
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I generally skip past most of Peks comments what’s your point?
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'I was making a point about what triggered these events, and how it’s widened the conflict, which I’d say there’s a very good chance played a big part in the motives behind the original attack. I thought that was pretty obvious"
The continual settlement of Palestinian land, the oppression of Palestinians in both Gaza and the WB, the emboldening and positive reinforcement by western allies and the ignorance of what's happening to Palestinians on the world stage is what triggered these events. All this since 1948.
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Sigh. I’m talking about recent events. Which again, should be blatantly obvious.
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All of the above triggered recent events including the Oct 7th attack.
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So you think the Hamas attack was all for the good of the Palestinians?
How naive.
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Where have I said this?
You don't think the actions of Israel over 5 decades has any bearing on what's happening in Gaza before and after Oct 7th?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-hands-smotrich-full-authority-to-expand-existing-settlements/
I suppose this had nothing to do with escalating tensions in both Gaza and the WB.
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Yes, I’m saying that Hamas carried out the attack for their own purposes and without a single thought for the people they purport to represent. I’ve always said this.
People like you can use history to justify it if it makes you feel better, but I’m saying g it’s false justification. And this is what Hamas are feeding on.
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Well if you know that for sure you crack on with speculation.
Dismiss it as history all you want bit Israels actions have been going on since 48 until present day. Israel illegally settling land, locking up Palestinians without trail, oppressing people in Gaza and the WB is false justification. This is all factual.
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It’s no different to what you’re doing. Difference is that subsequent events back me up more than you. Hamas knew that Israel would retaliate but they went into hiding and left the Palestinian’s to fend for themselves, which they knew they wouldn’t be able to do.
posted on 28/7/24
You just cant win when you argue with a thick arrogant angry cuuuunt who thinks this all started on 7th Oct ffs.
Despite all the information out there these cuunts can't even get their heads around that.
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'I was making a point about what triggered these events, and how it’s widened the conflict, which I’d say there’s a very good chance played a big part in the motives behind the original attack. I thought that was pretty obvious"
The continual settlement of Palestinian land, the oppression of Palestinians in both Gaza and the WB, the emboldening and positive reinforcement by western allies and the ignorance of what's happening to Palestinians on the world stage is what triggered these events. All this since 1948.
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Sigh. I’m talking about recent events. Which again, should be blatantly obvious.
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All of the above triggered recent events including the Oct 7th attack.
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So you think the Hamas attack was all for the good of the Palestinians?
How naive.
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Where have I said this?
You don't think the actions of Israel over 5 decades has any bearing on what's happening in Gaza before and after Oct 7th?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-hands-smotrich-full-authority-to-expand-existing-settlements/
I suppose this had nothing to do with escalating tensions in both Gaza and the WB.
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Yes, I’m saying that Hamas carried out the attack for their own purposes and without a single thought for the people they purport to represent. I’ve always said this.
People like you can use history to justify it if it makes you feel better, but I’m saying g it’s false justification. And this is what Hamas are feeding on.
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Well if you know that for sure you crack on with speculation.
Dismiss it as history all you want bit Israels actions have been going on since 48 until present day. Israel illegally settling land, locking up Palestinians without trail, oppressing people in Gaza and the WB is false justification. This is all factual.
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It’s no different to what you’re doing. Difference is that subsequent events back me up more than you. Hamas knew that Israel would retaliate but they went into hiding and left the Palestinian’s to fend for themselves, which they knew they wouldn’t be able to do.
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Ah right your speculation backs you up more than unequivocal facts posted by me back me up.
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
This is a common RW trait, say or do what ever you want, from outright racism to oppressing other people based on.their religion, then act aggrieved or shocked when there are consequences or criticism. You see it with Trump and his fanboys, Putin justifying his actions in Ukraine, Netanyahu trying to rationalise his actions in Gaza and the WB.
posted on 28/7/24
They really have serious problem, the lad was talking about football and was nice to them but look and judge for yourself.
https://x.com/DrLoupis/status/1817469667625054244?t=RJRr5hMmpm1WuFzxO99KEw&s=08
posted on 28/7/24
How it all started. It didn't start on 7 Oct 2023 as the pro Israel media is trying to tell you
https://youtu.be/UfcwqmWND3Y?si=ZCHf3kMr9Ptsl4QC
posted on 28/7/24
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'I was making a point about what triggered these events, and how it’s widened the conflict, which I’d say there’s a very good chance played a big part in the motives behind the original attack. I thought that was pretty obvious"
The continual settlement of Palestinian land, the oppression of Palestinians in both Gaza and the WB, the emboldening and positive reinforcement by western allies and the ignorance of what's happening to Palestinians on the world stage is what triggered these events. All this since 1948.
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Sigh. I’m talking about recent events. Which again, should be blatantly obvious.
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All of the above triggered recent events including the Oct 7th attack.
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So you think the Hamas attack was all for the good of the Palestinians?
How naive.
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Where have I said this?
You don't think the actions of Israel over 5 decades has any bearing on what's happening in Gaza before and after Oct 7th?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-hands-smotrich-full-authority-to-expand-existing-settlements/
I suppose this had nothing to do with escalating tensions in both Gaza and the WB.
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Yes, I’m saying that Hamas carried out the attack for their own purposes and without a single thought for the people they purport to represent. I’ve always said this.
People like you can use history to justify it if it makes you feel better, but I’m saying g it’s false justification. And this is what Hamas are feeding on.
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Well if you know that for sure you crack on with speculation.
Dismiss it as history all you want bit Israels actions have been going on since 48 until present day. Israel illegally settling land, locking up Palestinians without trail, oppressing people in Gaza and the WB is false justification. This is all factual.
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It’s no different to what you’re doing. Difference is that subsequent events back me up more than you. Hamas knew that Israel would retaliate but they went into hiding and left the Palestinian’s to fend for themselves, which they knew they wouldn’t be able to do.
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Ah right your speculation backs you up more than unequivocal facts posted by me back me up.
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
This is a common RW trait, say or do what ever you want, from outright racism to oppressing other people based on.their religion, then act aggrieved or shocked when there are consequences or criticism. You see it with Trump and his fanboys, Putin justifying his actions in Ukraine, Netanyahu trying to rationalise his actions in Gaza and the WB.
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How can you say unequivocally that Hamas’s actions are as a result of historical events preceding it, when they disappeared after their smash and grab and didn’t at least try to protect the Palestinians?
I’m no right winger, that’s just you venting because you can’t accept that it’s not as straightforward as you claim. It’s just as easy for me to say you’re just falling for the Hamas propaganda.
All this historical stuff is relevant if you’re talking about the actual citizens, but don’t use it to justify or explain the actions of Hamas and the events that it triggered.
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 37 minutes ago
You just cant win when you argue with a thick arrogant angry cuuuunt who thinks this all started on 7th Oct ffs.
Despite all the information out there these cuunts can't even get their heads around that.
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Sorry, you’re actually calling someone else angry?
Of course this current round of conflict started with the July attack. It’s feckin obvious you lunatic.
posted on 28/7/24
I’m busy for the rest of the day, so I will say this.
Israel is a problem for the Jews and Muslims.
This is Britain, a Christian nation for over 1500 years, you guys, who I’m guessing are British, really would be better served putting your energy into addressing our problems, such as homelessness, poverty, immigration, terrorism.
posted on 28/7/24
"How can you say unequivocally that Hamas’s actions are as a result of historical events preceding it, when they disappeared after their smash and grab and didn’t at least try to protect the Palestinians?"
Who can Palestinians turn to for help to stop Israeli settlers taking their land by force, locking them up without trial etc? National authorities, allies in the region, international authorities?
"All this historical stuff is relevant if you’re talking about the actual citizens, but don’t use it to justify or explain the actions of Hamas and the events that it triggered."
I haven't justified anything, I even made a point of stating 'not justifying' clearly in a previous comment. This was conveniently ignored or seems.
That was a general observation about this RW habit of acting shocked or aggrieved at criticism of their abhorrent actions. It's this consensus of do or say what I want matter how objectionable then play the victim when called out on it. I named Trump, Putin and Netanyahu as examples not you, unless you've confused yourself with one or all of them I didn't accuse you of being RW
BBC, Sky et al regularly publish Hamas propaganda do they?
posted on 28/7/24
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 10 minutes ago
I’m busy for the rest of the day, so I will say this.
Israel is a problem for the Jews and Muslims.
This is Britain, a Christian nation for over 1500 years, you guys, who I’m guessing are British, really would be better served putting your energy into addressing our problems, such as homelessness, poverty, immigration, terrorism
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I wish your British government didn't care about it in 1940s but they along the Rothschild family started all this and helped with the establishment of Israel .
posted on 28/7/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
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Pretty twisted if you think rape is the consequences of anyone's else's actions and not motivated by self gratification. Do you hate women or something?
posted on 28/7/24
comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
You don't think the actions of Hamas are a consequence (not justification) of Israel's actions since 48 up until present day.
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Pretty twisted if you think rape is the consequences of anyone's else's actions and not motivated by self gratification. Do you hate women or something?
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Again this is not what I've said.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_against_Palestinians_during_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war
Anything to say about this?
posted on 28/7/24
Why are you asking questions instead of answering the question?
You have said you think the actions of Hamas are a consequence of Israels actions. If you don't believe they are just say so.
Given that Hamas raped women on 7th October then obviously you believe that's a consequence of Israel's actions. I ask again, do you hate Women?
posted on 28/7/24
comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why are you asking questions instead of answering the question?
You have said you think the actions of Hamas are a consequence of Israels actions. If you don't believe they are just say so.
Given that Hamas raped women on 7th October then obviously you believe that's a consequence of Israel's actions. I ask again, do you hate Women?
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You keep posting things I haven't said then asking me to respond to something I haven't said
Thoughts on sexual abuse of Palestinians in Israeli prisons?
posted on 28/7/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 14 minutes ago
Why are you asking questions instead of answering the question?
You have said you think the actions of Hamas are a consequence of Israels actions. If you don't believe they are just say so.
Given that Hamas raped women on 7th October then obviously you believe that's a consequence of Israel's actions. I ask again, do you hate Women?
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You keep posting things I haven't said then asking me to respond to something I haven't said
Thoughts on sexual abuse of Palestinians in Israeli prisons?
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Feckin hell, the pair of you are shameless.
posted on 28/7/24
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Yeah that's exactly what I've said isn't it
Funny how me pointing out that the actions of Israel & the lack of recourse at every level for Palestinians lead to extremist groups like Hamas has turned into whatever the fook you think you've read
If that's what you've taken from my posts on Israel & Palestine you must be a bit dim.
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Exactly 👍
Ferdinand & Isabella had the right idea about these desert people 😂
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
posted on 28/7/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Yeah that's exactly what I've said isn't it
Funny how me pointing out that the actions of Israel & the lack of recourse at every level for Palestinians lead to extremist groups like Hamas has turned into whatever the fook you think you've read
If that's what you've taken from my posts on Israel & Palestine you must be a bit dim.
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Feck off, all you do is backtrack. Every time you’re called out it’s ‘that’s not what I meant’ or words to that effect.
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Yeah that's exactly what I've said isn't it
Funny how me pointing out that the actions of Israel & the lack of recourse at every level for Palestinians lead to extremist groups like Hamas has turned into whatever the fook you think you've read
If that's what you've taken from my posts on Israel & Palestine you must be a bit dim.
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Feck off, all you do is backtrack. Every time you’re called out it’s ‘that’s not what I meant’ or words to that effect.
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You're going to tell me what I meant now
Yeah do one you mef
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
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I don’t think I’ve had that one yet. Both of these sides have committed horrific acts of violence against each other. Personally it doesn’t affect me so I’m just a casual bystander with no dog in this fight.
However the levels of delusion from both sides as mentioned are just laughable.
posted on 28/7/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
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When has this happened?
Funny how you're ignoring Peks comment, Fernando y Isabella, whilst being angry at what you.think I meant.
posted on 28/7/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf-----JA606 NFL fantasy champ 2023 (U11551)
posted 15 minutes ago
This thread is mental
Literally got folks trying to make a case for one bunch of cants over another bunch of cants based on which side raped a little less.
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Cinci talking sense here, anyone on either of these 2 sides trying to take the moral high ground is just laughable
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What’s really odd is if you do take a balanced view then you’re labelled a Zionist. Place is bonkers.
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When has this happened?
Funny how you're ignoring Peks comment, Fernando y Isabella, whilst being angry at what you.think I meant.
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I generally skip past most of Peks comments what’s your point?
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