Here we go again
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We're on the road again,
We're on the road again,
We're on the way to paradise
Good of you to start the singing, Stevie!
I know you lot love my bold predictions, so here it is:
Celtic to win the league
Dundee derby to kick off the season
comment by Striketeam7 - haters gonna hate (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
I know you lot love my bold predictions, so here it is:
Celtic to win the league
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Champions Elect?
there clement signed a new deal...
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 6 minutes ago
there clement signed a new deal...
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🎉😃
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 5 minutes ago
there clement signed a new deal...
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Buying his continuation under the current shiitshow. He's been in the building only a year for goodness sake, so it smacks of keeping him from walking and also not being able to pay him off and start over again..
I'm not and never have been convinced of him as a manager but as ever time will tell. Long may his "project" last. Whether the bears maintain patience if things start going awry remains to be seen.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 5 minutes ago
there clement signed a new deal...
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Buying his continuation under the current shiitshow. He's been in the building only a year for goodness sake, so it smacks of keeping him from walking and also not being able to pay him off and start over again..
I'm not and never have been convinced of him as a manager but as ever time will tell. Long may his "project" last. Whether the bears maintain patience if things start going awry remains to be seen.
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Agreed. Insanity other than what you say and likely raising the payoff unless the contract has performance clauses. No Rangers or Celtic manager will survive underperformance, contract or otherwise.
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
Didn't see that coming. Personally I believe he's been told one thing when he started and the reality is quite different in terms of finances. He's dealt with it well so far. I thought he might become disillusioned. He's rolling his sleeves up and is up for the fight. Course sacking him is going to cost more now.
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 16 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Decent credentials though with 5 different Belgian champions and 8 teams being first or second in the last 10 years it is a different playground to the first or last here.
comment by Izzy... The Rat returns....fvck off back to Sp... (U3410)
posted 1 minute ago
Didn't see that coming. Personally I believe he's been told one thing when he started and the reality is quite different in terms of finances. He's dealt with it well so far. I thought he might become disillusioned. He's rolling his sleeves up and is up for the fight. Course sacking him is going to cost more now.
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Or has he just earned himself a bit more wedge and built in release clauses?
We'll never know as clubs always polish tuurds when it comes to things like this. It's like giving your star player a bigger and loner lasting contract when you know clubs are sniffing around. Ups the fees.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
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So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
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So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
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Quite simply leave him on the contract he was on and review it in a years time having set kpi's for him to meet as a minimum.
Surely that's sensible time for his to show some progress that doesn't depend on player trading at a loss, set out a style of play and build his own squad to demonstrate it's on the right tracks?
What's he being rewarded with a new contract for? Keep the gullibles onside? Because it sure as hell isn't about making any progress.
Rangers best chance is Brenny schitting the bed - can’t see it though
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
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So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
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Quite simply leave him on the contract he was on and review it in a years time having set kpi's for him to meet as a minimum.
Surely that's sensible time for his to show some progress that doesn't depend on player trading at a loss, set out a style of play and build his own squad to demonstrate it's on the right tracks?
What's he being rewarded with a new contract for? Keep the gullibles onside? Because it sure as hell isn't about making any progress.
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So imagine you are Clement.....disillusioned given what you'd been told and now seeing what the reality is........your board have made an absolute khunt of things getting the stadium reopened on time......why the fck would you stay?
As said the board is the issue here...pretty obvious why Clement has been offered a new deal...and to be quite frank, I feel the club needs a bit of stability for a while, and if we actually see progress under Clement, he will be given more time than you think
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
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So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
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Quite simply leave him on the contract he was on and review it in a years time having set kpi's for him to meet as a minimum.
Surely that's sensible time for his to show some progress that doesn't depend on player trading at a loss, set out a style of play and build his own squad to demonstrate it's on the right tracks?
What's he being rewarded with a new contract for? Keep the gullibles onside? Because it sure as hell isn't about making any progress.
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So imagine you are Clement.....disillusioned given what you'd been told and now seeing what the reality is........your board have made an absolute khunt of things getting the stadium reopened on time......why the fck would you stay?
As said the board is the issue here...pretty obvious why Clement has been offered a new deal...and to be quite frank, I feel the club needs a bit of stability for a while, and if we actually see progress under Clement, he will be given more time than you think
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That's exactly what I've said.
The longer contract was going to be coming to when the chairman made his statement, we don't want to be sacking managers and restarting again and again.
This contract is a statement from the board he's here for the long haul to build a side capable of winning the league but also an indication they don't think it will be this season.
Bar a calamitous season he gets this year and next to build a team and I think that's fair considering the backing or lack thereof he's been getting.
We all know how paying off disgruntled employees ends and barring a small minority of cases it is invariably the wrong course of action for both parties but I get that in this case if speculation is correct that it might be the least worse course.
That's exactly it
The impression I'm getting from you Ginger is that the board are wrong to be offering Clement a new contract
You are saying that he hasn't beaten Celtic, so it's folly to put more faith in him...while at the same time saying he has no chance of overhauling the financial advantages that Celtic have etc...
I get your argument that they perhaps should not have offered him a better or extended deal...but in the circumstances, holding onto Clement is a better idea than letting him go and having to then go and find yet another new manager
So for me, I don't think it's a bad thing to show some faith in a guy, that did reasonably well with a team he largely inherited and has only marginally added to
More importantly for me this season...is seeing the spine of the team and most of the senior figures within it, that have won next to nothing for years, finally being moved on, and I'll genuinely be gutted is Tav is not only still here come the end of August, but also still captain
If Clement changes that, he has my full backing, and whether he beats Celtic or not in the first game, I will give him time...and I think he will be given a lot more time than some people are suggesting
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 seconds ago
That's exactly it
The impression I'm getting from you Ginger is that the board are wrong to be offering Clement a new contract
You are saying that he hasn't beaten Celtic, so it's folly to put more faith in him...while at the same time saying he has no chance of overhauling the financial advantages that Celtic have etc...
I get your argument that they perhaps should not have offered him a better or extended deal...but in the circumstances, holding onto Clement is a better idea than letting him go and having to then go and find yet another new manager
So for me, I don't think it's a bad thing to show some faith in a guy, that did reasonably well with a team he largely inherited and has only marginally added to
More importantly for me this season...is seeing the spine of the team and most of the senior figures within it, that have won next to nothing for years, finally being moved on, and I'll genuinely be gutted is Tav is not only still here come the end of August, but also still captain
If Clement changes that, he has my full backing, and whether he beats Celtic or not in the first game, I will give him time...and I think he will be given a lot more time than some people are suggesting
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Correct. I think they are wrong, but I understand why I think they had little choice and I believe Clement is the one who forced the issue.
So if it was up to you, you would not have caved in if Clement was forcing this?
comment by Striketeam7 - haters gonna hate (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
Rangers best chance is Brenny schitting the bed - can’t see it though
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I see they wisely chose to ignore you the first time StrikeMug? Yet here you are back again desperate for attention with your Mystic Mug predictions.
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - haters gonna hate (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
Rangers best chance is Brenny schitting the bed - can’t see it though
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I see they wisely chose to ignore you the first time StrikeMug? Yet here you are back again desperate for attention with your Mystic Mug predictions.
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posted on 2/8/24
Here we go again
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We're on the road again,
We're on the road again,
We're on the way to paradise
Good of you to start the singing, Stevie!
posted on 2/8/24
I know you lot love my bold predictions, so here it is:
Celtic to win the league
posted on 2/8/24
Dundee derby to kick off the season
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Striketeam7 - haters gonna hate (U18109)
posted 7 minutes ago
I know you lot love my bold predictions, so here it is:
Celtic to win the league
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Champions Elect?
posted on 2/8/24
there clement signed a new deal...
posted on 2/8/24
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 6 minutes ago
there clement signed a new deal...
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🎉😃
posted on 2/8/24
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 5 minutes ago
there clement signed a new deal...
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Buying his continuation under the current shiitshow. He's been in the building only a year for goodness sake, so it smacks of keeping him from walking and also not being able to pay him off and start over again..
I'm not and never have been convinced of him as a manager but as ever time will tell. Long may his "project" last. Whether the bears maintain patience if things start going awry remains to be seen.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted 5 minutes ago
there clement signed a new deal...
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Buying his continuation under the current shiitshow. He's been in the building only a year for goodness sake, so it smacks of keeping him from walking and also not being able to pay him off and start over again..
I'm not and never have been convinced of him as a manager but as ever time will tell. Long may his "project" last. Whether the bears maintain patience if things start going awry remains to be seen.
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Agreed. Insanity other than what you say and likely raising the payoff unless the contract has performance clauses. No Rangers or Celtic manager will survive underperformance, contract or otherwise.
posted on 2/8/24
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
posted on 2/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
posted on 2/8/24
Didn't see that coming. Personally I believe he's been told one thing when he started and the reality is quite different in terms of finances. He's dealt with it well so far. I thought he might become disillusioned. He's rolling his sleeves up and is up for the fight. Course sacking him is going to cost more now.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 16 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Decent credentials though with 5 different Belgian champions and 8 teams being first or second in the last 10 years it is a different playground to the first or last here.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Izzy... The Rat returns....fvck off back to Sp... (U3410)
posted 1 minute ago
Didn't see that coming. Personally I believe he's been told one thing when he started and the reality is quite different in terms of finances. He's dealt with it well so far. I thought he might become disillusioned. He's rolling his sleeves up and is up for the fight. Course sacking him is going to cost more now.
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Or has he just earned himself a bit more wedge and built in release clauses?
We'll never know as clubs always polish tuurds when it comes to things like this. It's like giving your star player a bigger and loner lasting contract when you know clubs are sniffing around. Ups the fees.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
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So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
posted on 2/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
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Quite simply leave him on the contract he was on and review it in a years time having set kpi's for him to meet as a minimum.
Surely that's sensible time for his to show some progress that doesn't depend on player trading at a loss, set out a style of play and build his own squad to demonstrate it's on the right tracks?
What's he being rewarded with a new contract for? Keep the gullibles onside? Because it sure as hell isn't about making any progress.
posted on 2/8/24
Rangers best chance is Brenny schitting the bed - can’t see it though
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
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Quite simply leave him on the contract he was on and review it in a years time having set kpi's for him to meet as a minimum.
Surely that's sensible time for his to show some progress that doesn't depend on player trading at a loss, set out a style of play and build his own squad to demonstrate it's on the right tracks?
What's he being rewarded with a new contract for? Keep the gullibles onside? Because it sure as hell isn't about making any progress.
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So imagine you are Clement.....disillusioned given what you'd been told and now seeing what the reality is........your board have made an absolute khunt of things getting the stadium reopened on time......why the fck would you stay?
As said the board is the issue here...pretty obvious why Clement has been offered a new deal...and to be quite frank, I feel the club needs a bit of stability for a while, and if we actually see progress under Clement, he will be given more time than you think
posted on 2/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 12 minutes ago
Think the guy has proven he can build teams that can win league titles
He won the Belgian league, left that club to join another, and then won it with them
Only question mark is whether he can overhaul the advantage that Celtic currently have in terms of finance etc.......something any manager would do well to do
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Not a chance he can overhaul the advantages we have in finance etc, and if that's his goal he might as well pack his bags now.
He's been in the door 9 months, won something like 6 out of his last 16 games (so I've read), appears to have no structure or plan and still had 3 years of his contract to run.
So after stating publicly he'd been dealt a shiete hand from the club regarding available funds and Bennett coming out and saying practically the same; he's been offered and signed a new contract.
Does this not seem bizarre to you? Because anywhere else it smacks of incompetence from the board. That, or sheer desperation with having the proverbial gun held to their heads.
Something is far from right in all of this because as has been said, no OF manager remains in post without beating their rivals over a fairly short period of time, regardless of what contracts are signed. And fwiw, he's already on borrowed time if you leave CP with another defeat.
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So what's the other option like?
We are already having to do our third rebuild in 3 summers......if we sack Clement it'll be our third manager in 3 years too
Is that a better option than putting faith in the guy and giving him time?
The board is the issue, but I'd be slating the board even more if they decided to just ditch Clement now
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Quite simply leave him on the contract he was on and review it in a years time having set kpi's for him to meet as a minimum.
Surely that's sensible time for his to show some progress that doesn't depend on player trading at a loss, set out a style of play and build his own squad to demonstrate it's on the right tracks?
What's he being rewarded with a new contract for? Keep the gullibles onside? Because it sure as hell isn't about making any progress.
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So imagine you are Clement.....disillusioned given what you'd been told and now seeing what the reality is........your board have made an absolute khunt of things getting the stadium reopened on time......why the fck would you stay?
As said the board is the issue here...pretty obvious why Clement has been offered a new deal...and to be quite frank, I feel the club needs a bit of stability for a while, and if we actually see progress under Clement, he will be given more time than you think
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That's exactly what I've said.
posted on 2/8/24
The longer contract was going to be coming to when the chairman made his statement, we don't want to be sacking managers and restarting again and again.
This contract is a statement from the board he's here for the long haul to build a side capable of winning the league but also an indication they don't think it will be this season.
Bar a calamitous season he gets this year and next to build a team and I think that's fair considering the backing or lack thereof he's been getting.
posted on 2/8/24
We all know how paying off disgruntled employees ends and barring a small minority of cases it is invariably the wrong course of action for both parties but I get that in this case if speculation is correct that it might be the least worse course.
posted on 2/8/24
That's exactly it
The impression I'm getting from you Ginger is that the board are wrong to be offering Clement a new contract
You are saying that he hasn't beaten Celtic, so it's folly to put more faith in him...while at the same time saying he has no chance of overhauling the financial advantages that Celtic have etc...
I get your argument that they perhaps should not have offered him a better or extended deal...but in the circumstances, holding onto Clement is a better idea than letting him go and having to then go and find yet another new manager
So for me, I don't think it's a bad thing to show some faith in a guy, that did reasonably well with a team he largely inherited and has only marginally added to
More importantly for me this season...is seeing the spine of the team and most of the senior figures within it, that have won next to nothing for years, finally being moved on, and I'll genuinely be gutted is Tav is not only still here come the end of August, but also still captain
If Clement changes that, he has my full backing, and whether he beats Celtic or not in the first game, I will give him time...and I think he will be given a lot more time than some people are suggesting
posted on 2/8/24
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 53 seconds ago
That's exactly it
The impression I'm getting from you Ginger is that the board are wrong to be offering Clement a new contract
You are saying that he hasn't beaten Celtic, so it's folly to put more faith in him...while at the same time saying he has no chance of overhauling the financial advantages that Celtic have etc...
I get your argument that they perhaps should not have offered him a better or extended deal...but in the circumstances, holding onto Clement is a better idea than letting him go and having to then go and find yet another new manager
So for me, I don't think it's a bad thing to show some faith in a guy, that did reasonably well with a team he largely inherited and has only marginally added to
More importantly for me this season...is seeing the spine of the team and most of the senior figures within it, that have won next to nothing for years, finally being moved on, and I'll genuinely be gutted is Tav is not only still here come the end of August, but also still captain
If Clement changes that, he has my full backing, and whether he beats Celtic or not in the first game, I will give him time...and I think he will be given a lot more time than some people are suggesting
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Correct. I think they are wrong, but I understand why I think they had little choice and I believe Clement is the one who forced the issue.
posted on 2/8/24
So if it was up to you, you would not have caved in if Clement was forcing this?
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Striketeam7 - haters gonna hate (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
Rangers best chance is Brenny schitting the bed - can’t see it though
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I see they wisely chose to ignore you the first time StrikeMug? Yet here you are back again desperate for attention with your Mystic Mug predictions.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - haters gonna hate (U18109)
posted 40 minutes ago
Rangers best chance is Brenny schitting the bed - can’t see it though
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I see they wisely chose to ignore you the first time StrikeMug? Yet here you are back again desperate for attention with your Mystic Mug predictions.
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We're well known for our tolerance up here.
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