comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 minutes ago
Time for Szmodics. Get it done.
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And Whittaker whilst we're at it.
Will probably announce 3 signings Luke Varney, Michael Brown and David Norris, ok not those 3 obviously but of similar standard!
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 minutes ago
Time for Szmodics. Get it done.
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And Whittaker whilst we're at it.
^^^
Sheff United continue to build an 800lb gorilla of
a squad. Added Michael Cooper. Great, young keeper.
They are doing what we should've last season. Eye
on getting out of this division, with players who can
step up thanks to youth and talent being on their side.
We are a fcking joke.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 minutes ago
Time for Szmodics. Get it done.
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And Whittaker whilst we're at it.
^^^
Sheff United continue to build an 800lb gorilla of
a squad. Added Michael Cooper. Great, young keeper.
They are doing what we should've last season. Eye
on getting out of this division, with players who can
step up thanks to youth and talent being on their side.
We are a fcking joke.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cooper is a very good keeper, when I saw he had gone to Sheffield United I thought, chance missed there. The 49ers will just sit on their hands and say, we tried to sign x, y and z but they chose to get elsewhere.
49ers are full of sh 1 te until they prove otherwise.
Fcking clown car.
I'm official boycotting Will Ferrell movies.
I remember getting slated for asking if we were in PSR trouble back in the summer. No, I was told. You're a
fcking idiot. Looks like we were and are. Massively.
Keep asking questions Batty and scythe through the bull"** free pass narrative.
Rob, what a mess this is.
Should have gone for Johansson who joined Stoke for like 2 million.
Absolutely Shaun. We come back to that sentiment issue.
I'll bet his shots on target saved ratio was higher than the best keeper in the championship. Sentiment fc.
What mental and physical state s the side going to be on
Saturday? The whole squad who are left must be totally demoralised and wonder what on earth is going on so it's unlikely we sign a new player or two who's eligible in time to play before we face WBA unless it's a loan deal maybe so the line up with I'm guessing Gnonto announcing he's not available to play will be fodder for our opposition and the best goalie in the Championship I think will be picking the ball out of his net at least 3 times.
Why oh why have the owners sat on their hands twiddling their thumbs while Rome is burning???
There should not only be a club statement but 2 or 3 new signings should have been announced before last night's Rutter news broke.
Offered Georgie a new deal apparently - desperate measures.
comment by Macca & The Metal Hips: fka Wheelchair Dav... (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
What mental and physical state s the side going to be on
Saturday? The whole squad who are left must be totally demoralised and wonder what on earth is going on so it's unlikely we sign a new player or two who's eligible in time to play before we face WBA unless it's a loan deal maybe so the line up with I'm guessing Gnonto announcing he's not available to play will be fodder for our opposition and the best goalie in the Championship I think will be picking the ball out of his net at least 3 times.
Why oh why have the owners sat on their hands twiddling their thumbs while Rome is burning???
There should not only be a club statement but 2 or 3 new signings should have been announced before last night's Rutter news broke.
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I think that was part of the problem last night. The clause was triggered before the game. Everyone must have known apart from the fans.
Morale looked rock bottom before they scored.
No wonder the phone signal is shiiiite at ER!
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
I remember getting slated for asking if we were in PSR trouble back in the summer. No, I was told. You're a
fcking idiot. Looks like we were and are. Massively.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Since Bielsa arrived we are roughly -£92m on player sales without the Rutter fee...that is absolutely nothing considering we were a Premier League club for 3 years. The £190 debt can be paid with the swish of a pen, nothing to do with PSR at this point. The club is awash with money!
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 5 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 15 minutes ago
Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? His advisers will have suggested it for sure and the club had a decision to make I guess.
Contracts aren’t all one way and I guess at times both clubs and players have to compromise.
I think he’s gone even though he knew before the game and tried his best when he came on.
Why wouldn’t he go play in the top tier and double his wages? He owes the club nothing.
The only hope I have is that he loves the fans as much as they love him. Doubtful though.
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"Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? "
So, he would only sign for us for 35 mill if there was a release clause for 40mill.
Come on, stop making excuses for the owners over and over again.
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Are you saying that the club insisted on the clause? Why would they?
Contract negotiations are two way. I’m not defending the club but maybe they had a choice of agreeing or him going elsewhere?
The players seem to have all the powers these days. A bit like the unions under Labour.
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No I’m saying no one puts release clause on for 40 mill on a 35 mill player.
Paraag is an utter idiot.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 5 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 15 minutes ago
Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? His advisers will have suggested it for sure and the club had a decision to make I guess.
Contracts aren’t all one way and I guess at times both clubs and players have to compromise.
I think he’s gone even though he knew before the game and tried his best when he came on.
Why wouldn’t he go play in the top tier and double his wages? He owes the club nothing.
The only hope I have is that he loves the fans as much as they love him. Doubtful though.
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"Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? "
So, he would only sign for us for 35 mill if there was a release clause for 40mill.
Come on, stop making excuses for the owners over and over again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you saying that the club insisted on the clause? Why would they?
Contract negotiations are two way. I’m not defending the club but maybe they had a choice of agreeing or him going elsewhere?
The players seem to have all the powers these days. A bit like the unions under Labour.
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No I’m saying no one puts release clause on for 40 mill on a 35 mill player.
Paraag is an utter idiot.
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But he wasn't a £35m player - he was £25m plus add ons. I suspect the add ons would be Full International and Europe for us. Those won't be paid now and probably never would whilst he played for us - for many years at least.
Plus we don't know that Paraag was involved. I suspect he was but Orta was still around at the time.
First of all unless we were actually a fly on the wall during the original contract negotiations between Rutter's representatives and Orta etc none of us know whether or not the release clause of £40 million was a set in stone condition on Rutter agreeing to sign for
Leeds.
Secondly once Rutter was having an excellent season last season none of us know whether or not a new contract with a higher release clause was offered to Rutter and it was refused which seems quite plausible as a safety net for Rutter if things went pear shaped which they did and he's moving on while his stock is high which is gutting for us as Leeds fans but that's football.
The bottom line now we all recognise is how our owners react and we shall be able to judge how serious they are about wanting Leeds to get promoted by who they replace our 2 most creative players with and whether they add at least a further 2 or 3 quality new signings
before the transfer window closes....Over to you 49ers and let's see what you are made of.
For me, it's less about the 40 mill clause
and more about the fact we've lost Georgie.
He was a freaking joy to watch last 2 seasons.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
For me, it's less about the 40 mill clause
and more about the fact we've lost Georgie.
He was a freaking joy to watch last 2 seasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A joy to watch, like a Lamborghini in Hunslet. It's not going to be there forever.
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
For me, it's less about the 40 mill clause
and more about the fact we've lost Georgie.
He was a freaking joy to watch last 2 seasons.
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Last season for sure but the season before he was struggling to make his mark. Settled well last season though.
Last season for sure but the season before he was struggling to make his mark. Settled well last season though.
^^^
When Orta first signed him - when we clearly needed
a striker/goal scorer - I, like many were hopping mad at
the club once we saw Rutter play. He looked awful.
But, like you say, he settled in last season and looked
great. Infectious, joyful player. I had high hopes for him
this season. We all did. He was clearly Farke's new
plan A (taking over from Cree). Sad he's gone.
I'm definitely following him, Cree, and Archie in the Prem.
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posted on 15/8/24
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 minutes ago
Time for Szmodics. Get it done.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Whittaker whilst we're at it.
posted on 15/8/24
Will probably announce 3 signings Luke Varney, Michael Brown and David Norris, ok not those 3 obviously but of similar standard!
posted on 15/8/24
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 minutes ago
Time for Szmodics. Get it done.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Whittaker whilst we're at it.
^^^
Sheff United continue to build an 800lb gorilla of
a squad. Added Michael Cooper. Great, young keeper.
They are doing what we should've last season. Eye
on getting out of this division, with players who can
step up thanks to youth and talent being on their side.
We are a fcking joke.
posted on 15/8/24
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - supercalifragilisticOrtaisatrocious (U9955)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 minutes ago
Time for Szmodics. Get it done.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Whittaker whilst we're at it.
^^^
Sheff United continue to build an 800lb gorilla of
a squad. Added Michael Cooper. Great, young keeper.
They are doing what we should've last season. Eye
on getting out of this division, with players who can
step up thanks to youth and talent being on their side.
We are a fcking joke.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cooper is a very good keeper, when I saw he had gone to Sheffield United I thought, chance missed there. The 49ers will just sit on their hands and say, we tried to sign x, y and z but they chose to get elsewhere.
posted on 15/8/24
49ers are full of sh 1 te until they prove otherwise.
Fcking clown car.
posted on 15/8/24
I'm official boycotting Will Ferrell movies.
posted on 15/8/24
I remember getting slated for asking if we were in PSR trouble back in the summer. No, I was told. You're a
fcking idiot. Looks like we were and are. Massively.
posted on 15/8/24
Keep asking questions Batty and scythe through the bull"** free pass narrative.
posted on 15/8/24
Rob, what a mess this is.
posted on 15/8/24
Should have gone for Johansson who joined Stoke for like 2 million.
posted on 15/8/24
Absolutely Shaun. We come back to that sentiment issue.
posted on 15/8/24
I'll bet his shots on target saved ratio was higher than the best keeper in the championship. Sentiment fc.
posted on 15/8/24
What mental and physical state s the side going to be on
Saturday? The whole squad who are left must be totally demoralised and wonder what on earth is going on so it's unlikely we sign a new player or two who's eligible in time to play before we face WBA unless it's a loan deal maybe so the line up with I'm guessing Gnonto announcing he's not available to play will be fodder for our opposition and the best goalie in the Championship I think will be picking the ball out of his net at least 3 times.
Why oh why have the owners sat on their hands twiddling their thumbs while Rome is burning???
There should not only be a club statement but 2 or 3 new signings should have been announced before last night's Rutter news broke.
posted on 15/8/24
Offered Georgie a new deal apparently - desperate measures.
posted on 15/8/24
comment by Macca & The Metal Hips: fka Wheelchair Dav... (U8194)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
What mental and physical state s the side going to be on
Saturday? The whole squad who are left must be totally demoralised and wonder what on earth is going on so it's unlikely we sign a new player or two who's eligible in time to play before we face WBA unless it's a loan deal maybe so the line up with I'm guessing Gnonto announcing he's not available to play will be fodder for our opposition and the best goalie in the Championship I think will be picking the ball out of his net at least 3 times.
Why oh why have the owners sat on their hands twiddling their thumbs while Rome is burning???
There should not only be a club statement but 2 or 3 new signings should have been announced before last night's Rutter news broke.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think that was part of the problem last night. The clause was triggered before the game. Everyone must have known apart from the fans.
Morale looked rock bottom before they scored.
No wonder the phone signal is shiiiite at ER!
posted on 15/8/24
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
I remember getting slated for asking if we were in PSR trouble back in the summer. No, I was told. You're a
fcking idiot. Looks like we were and are. Massively.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Since Bielsa arrived we are roughly -£92m on player sales without the Rutter fee...that is absolutely nothing considering we were a Premier League club for 3 years. The £190 debt can be paid with the swish of a pen, nothing to do with PSR at this point. The club is awash with money!
posted on 15/8/24
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 5 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 15 minutes ago
Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? His advisers will have suggested it for sure and the club had a decision to make I guess.
Contracts aren’t all one way and I guess at times both clubs and players have to compromise.
I think he’s gone even though he knew before the game and tried his best when he came on.
Why wouldn’t he go play in the top tier and double his wages? He owes the club nothing.
The only hope I have is that he loves the fans as much as they love him. Doubtful though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? "
So, he would only sign for us for 35 mill if there was a release clause for 40mill.
Come on, stop making excuses for the owners over and over again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you saying that the club insisted on the clause? Why would they?
Contract negotiations are two way. I’m not defending the club but maybe they had a choice of agreeing or him going elsewhere?
The players seem to have all the powers these days. A bit like the unions under Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I’m saying no one puts release clause on for 40 mill on a 35 mill player.
Paraag is an utter idiot.
posted on 15/8/24
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 5 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 15 minutes ago
Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? His advisers will have suggested it for sure and the club had a decision to make I guess.
Contracts aren’t all one way and I guess at times both clubs and players have to compromise.
I think he’s gone even though he knew before the game and tried his best when he came on.
Why wouldn’t he go play in the top tier and double his wages? He owes the club nothing.
The only hope I have is that he loves the fans as much as they love him. Doubtful though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Maybe the only way he would sign for us was if that clause was put in? "
So, he would only sign for us for 35 mill if there was a release clause for 40mill.
Come on, stop making excuses for the owners over and over again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you saying that the club insisted on the clause? Why would they?
Contract negotiations are two way. I’m not defending the club but maybe they had a choice of agreeing or him going elsewhere?
The players seem to have all the powers these days. A bit like the unions under Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I’m saying no one puts release clause on for 40 mill on a 35 mill player.
Paraag is an utter idiot.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But he wasn't a £35m player - he was £25m plus add ons. I suspect the add ons would be Full International and Europe for us. Those won't be paid now and probably never would whilst he played for us - for many years at least.
posted on 15/8/24
Plus we don't know that Paraag was involved. I suspect he was but Orta was still around at the time.
posted on 15/8/24
First of all unless we were actually a fly on the wall during the original contract negotiations between Rutter's representatives and Orta etc none of us know whether or not the release clause of £40 million was a set in stone condition on Rutter agreeing to sign for
Leeds.
Secondly once Rutter was having an excellent season last season none of us know whether or not a new contract with a higher release clause was offered to Rutter and it was refused which seems quite plausible as a safety net for Rutter if things went pear shaped which they did and he's moving on while his stock is high which is gutting for us as Leeds fans but that's football.
The bottom line now we all recognise is how our owners react and we shall be able to judge how serious they are about wanting Leeds to get promoted by who they replace our 2 most creative players with and whether they add at least a further 2 or 3 quality new signings
before the transfer window closes....Over to you 49ers and let's see what you are made of.
posted on 15/8/24
For me, it's less about the 40 mill clause
and more about the fact we've lost Georgie.
He was a freaking joy to watch last 2 seasons.
posted on 16/8/24
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
For me, it's less about the 40 mill clause
and more about the fact we've lost Georgie.
He was a freaking joy to watch last 2 seasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A joy to watch, like a Lamborghini in Hunslet. It's not going to be there forever.
posted on 16/8/24
comment by Batty (U4664)
posted 14 hours, 27 minutes ago
For me, it's less about the 40 mill clause
and more about the fact we've lost Georgie.
He was a freaking joy to watch last 2 seasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Last season for sure but the season before he was struggling to make his mark. Settled well last season though.
posted on 16/8/24
Last season for sure but the season before he was struggling to make his mark. Settled well last season though.
^^^
When Orta first signed him - when we clearly needed
a striker/goal scorer - I, like many were hopping mad at
the club once we saw Rutter play. He looked awful.
But, like you say, he settled in last season and looked
great. Infectious, joyful player. I had high hopes for him
this season. We all did. He was clearly Farke's new
plan A (taking over from Cree). Sad he's gone.
I'm definitely following him, Cree, and Archie in the Prem.
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