I think it is pretty similar to the China situation. Majority of talent stays in Europe, but a couple of high calibre players make it over there. Would you agree?
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
I think that will happen when the inevitable happens and Sauid teams can join the CL (or whatever Super League it is)
There will be a small percentage of peak players that will go to Saudi, but the vast majority will stay in mainland Europe, where the money is still great, where most of them will prefer to live etc and where the prestige of playing in the club competitions and leagues is still a major pull. Maybe if you don't think you will get to one of the top clubs, or if you have won some stuff and content with that, you will go to Saudi, but most still won't for the other reasons mentioned.
I think you need a local base of a decent amount of home grown talent to really threaten, and that doesn't seem likely.
Club world cup expansion thing first. But even without a super league or such I still reckon similar levels of players to top 4 chasing PL sides in just a couple of years. At the top Saudi clubs anyway.
Let's try and predict who in two years will be there! Then we can look back and see if we were right.
Name three players that are in their mid twenties that will still be at their peak in a couple of seasons. Naming ageing ones is too easy.
Richarlison, Nkunku, Nunez
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
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It might also depend to an extent of how much of a success the revamped FIFA Club World Cup is, and how much of an impact the Saudi clubs manage to make there.
It could provide a huge platform for non-European clubs, and if someone like Al-Hilal were capable of going far, they'd be sure to capture the attention of many fans and footballers worldwide and raise the profile of the Saudi league even further.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
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It might also depend to an extent of how much of a success the revamped FIFA Club World Cup is, and how much of an impact the Saudi clubs manage to make there.
It could provide a huge platform for non-European clubs, and if someone like Al-Hilal were capable of going far, they'd be sure to capture the attention of many fans and footballers worldwide and raise the profile of the Saudi league even further.
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Yeah it's sad. I want the opposite. Proper big South American clubs with mental fans doing well. Managing to hold on to their talented, world class young players.
But they are prime candidates for Saudi. Young Brazilians and the like.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
Richarlison, Nkunku, Nunez
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Antony, Fati, Paqueta
England barely beat any sides in the euros, despite being stronger than the Saudi 11, they'd find a way to not win it.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Seems pointless to ask first to compare a limited English only xi to an all star xi from Saudi money league and then turn around and ask where thst all star xi might finish in the full prem.
It's not apples and apples comparison.
England would probably beat that all star team for the record as England are a team that's played before and would have a certain team.work.
If you gave pep guardiola that xi from Saudi maybe it'd get top 6 but probably not as half of them are retirees
Again just a pointless kind of question
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
That's fair, Barry. You should have named an all-Saudi team.
People would probably scoff at such a comparison, but Saudi Arabia have, in all fairness, beaten a World Champion side in a major tournament more recently than England.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
It was more to determine the standard of players that went to Saudi compared to the English players playing in the PL.
If it gets to the point where the English players playing in the PL aren't as good as the foreign players playing in Saudi then that's one hell of a fall from grace for the PL. Or a jump from ungrace for Saudi.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
i thin Barry has unequivercabubbly proove his point.
goodnite
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
It was more to determine the standard of players that went to Saudi compared to the English players playing in the PL.
If it gets to the point where the English players playing in the PL aren't as good as the foreign players playing in Saudi then that's one hell of a fall from grace for the PL. Or a jump from ungrace for Saudi.
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To follow that thread through, I’d assume you feel similar about Spanish players in Spain, Italian players in Italy and French players in France?
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posted 2 weeks ago
I think it is pretty similar to the China situation. Majority of talent stays in Europe, but a couple of high calibre players make it over there. Would you agree?
posted 2 weeks ago
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
posted 2 weeks ago
I think that will happen when the inevitable happens and Sauid teams can join the CL (or whatever Super League it is)
posted 2 weeks ago
There will be a small percentage of peak players that will go to Saudi, but the vast majority will stay in mainland Europe, where the money is still great, where most of them will prefer to live etc and where the prestige of playing in the club competitions and leagues is still a major pull. Maybe if you don't think you will get to one of the top clubs, or if you have won some stuff and content with that, you will go to Saudi, but most still won't for the other reasons mentioned.
I think you need a local base of a decent amount of home grown talent to really threaten, and that doesn't seem likely.
posted 2 weeks ago
Club world cup expansion thing first. But even without a super league or such I still reckon similar levels of players to top 4 chasing PL sides in just a couple of years. At the top Saudi clubs anyway.
Let's try and predict who in two years will be there! Then we can look back and see if we were right.
Name three players that are in their mid twenties that will still be at their peak in a couple of seasons. Naming ageing ones is too easy.
posted 2 weeks ago
Richarlison, Nkunku, Nunez
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
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It might also depend to an extent of how much of a success the revamped FIFA Club World Cup is, and how much of an impact the Saudi clubs manage to make there.
It could provide a huge platform for non-European clubs, and if someone like Al-Hilal were capable of going far, they'd be sure to capture the attention of many fans and footballers worldwide and raise the profile of the Saudi league even further.
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would be interesting to see if it can progress beyond that though as the China thing died pretty quickly. Could it become normalised for players to go there and still continue a normal international career etc? If it keeps going and they keep injecting all this money into it then it will keep growing.
I reckon in just a couple of years the top teams will have the same calibre of player as say Chelsea and Spurs. Doesn't mean they'll be great teams.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It might also depend to an extent of how much of a success the revamped FIFA Club World Cup is, and how much of an impact the Saudi clubs manage to make there.
It could provide a huge platform for non-European clubs, and if someone like Al-Hilal were capable of going far, they'd be sure to capture the attention of many fans and footballers worldwide and raise the profile of the Saudi league even further.
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Yeah it's sad. I want the opposite. Proper big South American clubs with mental fans doing well. Managing to hold on to their talented, world class young players.
But they are prime candidates for Saudi. Young Brazilians and the like.
posted 2 weeks ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
Richarlison, Nkunku, Nunez
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Antony, Fati, Paqueta
posted 2 weeks ago
England barely beat any sides in the euros, despite being stronger than the Saudi 11, they'd find a way to not win it.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
Seems pointless to ask first to compare a limited English only xi to an all star xi from Saudi money league and then turn around and ask where thst all star xi might finish in the full prem.
It's not apples and apples comparison.
England would probably beat that all star team for the record as England are a team that's played before and would have a certain team.work.
If you gave pep guardiola that xi from Saudi maybe it'd get top 6 but probably not as half of them are retirees
Again just a pointless kind of question
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
That's fair, Barry. You should have named an all-Saudi team.
People would probably scoff at such a comparison, but Saudi Arabia have, in all fairness, beaten a World Champion side in a major tournament more recently than England.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
It was more to determine the standard of players that went to Saudi compared to the English players playing in the PL.
If it gets to the point where the English players playing in the PL aren't as good as the foreign players playing in Saudi then that's one hell of a fall from grace for the PL. Or a jump from ungrace for Saudi.
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
i thin Barry has unequivercabubbly proove his point.
goodnite
posted 1 week, 6 days ago
comment by Michel Pageaud (U1734)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
It was more to determine the standard of players that went to Saudi compared to the English players playing in the PL.
If it gets to the point where the English players playing in the PL aren't as good as the foreign players playing in Saudi then that's one hell of a fall from grace for the PL. Or a jump from ungrace for Saudi.
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To follow that thread through, I’d assume you feel similar about Spanish players in Spain, Italian players in Italy and French players in France?
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