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The obvious issue is the lack of consistency. We literally saw a Liverpool player smash the ball away after fouling an opponent while on a yellow and there was no chance the ref was ever going to send him off. We even see cases in the games Arsenal players got sent off.
What doesn't help is the PGMOL head becoming a TV personality and saying the ref didn't give City a very obvious red because he didn't want a negative impact on the game, then a year later the same ref cannot wait to get the red out for an Arsenal player.
The laws of the game should be applied to all teams the same, it simply isn't at the moment. The refs had yet another shocking weekend, big errors across the board.
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What about your first goal yesterday? Any issues with that, or just the ones that go against you?
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Nothing wrong with the first goal. Walker was back in position and too bust shouting across at his team mates. The ball was about 2 yards further forward, but Bernardo had dribbled the ball 15 yards down the pitch so blame him for that (no yellow for that either...)
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Was this your reasoned response?
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 38 minutes ago
No point even debating or discussing with you. You clearly believe everyone decision goes against Arsenal and there is an agenda. And any decision you get in your favour or correct.
Honestly, no point. You crack on.
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Or this one?
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 41 minutes ago
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comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
The obvious issue is the lack of consistency. We literally saw a Liverpool player smash the ball away after fouling an opponent while on a yellow and there was no chance the ref was ever going to send him off. We even see cases in the games Arsenal players got sent off.
What doesn't help is the PGMOL head becoming a TV personality and saying the ref didn't give City a very obvious red because he didn't want a negative impact on the game, then a year later the same ref cannot wait to get the red out for an Arsenal player.
The laws of the game should be applied to all teams the same, it simply isn't at the moment. The refs had yet another shocking weekend, big errors across the board.
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What about your first goal yesterday? Any issues with that, or just the ones that go against you?
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Nothing wrong with the first goal. Walker was back in position and too bust shouting across at his team mates. The ball was about 2 yards further forward, but Bernardo had dribbled the ball 15 yards down the pitch so blame him for that (no yellow for that either...)
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Was this your reasoned response?
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Keep looking
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
OK, the ref called Walker over and then let Arsenal take the free kick quickly. You could argue that Walker was in position, but my thoughts (and alot of other people's) is that Walker was back literally within a tenth of a second and wasn't "set". The ref shouldn't have played until he was happy Walker was back in position AND SET as he was the reason Walker wasn't set for the free kick.
The free kick was also taken about 6 yards further forward, which I wouldn't have a huge issue with but taking the above into account I think this has an impact on Walker being set and in position.
Arsenal gained an unfair advantage IMO as a direct result of those 2 things.
P. S. for transparency, I know a few say the 2nd goal could have been a free kick but I disagree and thought it was a perfectly legitimate goal.
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Il help you out then
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
City crying about dark arts is quite hypocritical. They should get a dose of their own medicine.
Walker was in line with his defensive line and in the right back position. He was not moving further right, he was set in line with his fellow defenders, and shouting instructions. He was showing no intention of going anywhere other than where he was?
Given the debate is about delaying the restart, how long is the ref meant to give Walker once he is clearly in position?
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
City crying about dark arts is quite hypocritical. They should get a dose of their own medicine.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 seconds ago
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
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You asked for my reply and accused me of not responding to it. You may not agree with my view on it, but are you going to apologise for missing it and trying to be clever by replying to other comments of mine to try and make it look like I was dismissive.
We just have different views on the situation that's all. Thats OK.
I think we both know that you think there is an agenda against your team. You will argue every decision for and against on your favour.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Walker was in line with his defensive line and in the right back position. He was not moving further right, he was set in line with his fellow defenders, and shouting instructions. He was showing no intention of going anywhere other than where he was?
Given the debate is about delaying the restart, how long is the ref meant to give Walker once he is clearly in position?
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That's your view. Unfortunately not shared by every pundit after the game (including Merson). But he probably has an agenda against Arsenal.
Finally a voice of reason from the Op in the midst of all the post match carnage, meltdowns and conspiracy theories.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 seconds ago
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
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You asked for my reply and accused me of not responding to it. You may not agree with my view on it, but are you going to apologise for missing it and trying to be clever by replying to other comments of mine to try and make it look like I was dismissive.
We just have different views on the situation that's all. Thats OK.
I think we both know that you think there is an agenda against your team. You will argue every decision for and against on your favour.
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Noones argued every decision, the prevailing opinion form arsenal fans has been
Delaying the restart is no applied consistently
Walker had enough time to get back
I think you've come on here with your mind made up about what arsenal fans think and then are trying to straw man that onto people
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 seconds ago
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
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You asked for my reply and accused me of not responding to it. You may not agree with my view on it, but are you going to apologise for missing it and trying to be clever by replying to other comments of mine to try and make it look like I was dismissive.
We just have different views on the situation that's all. Thats OK.
I think we both know that you think there is an agenda against your team. You will argue every decision for and against on your favour.
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Noones argued every decision, the prevailing opinion form arsenal fans has been
Delaying the restart is no applied consistently
Walker had enough time to get back
I think you've come on here with your mind made up about what arsenal fans think and then are trying to straw man that onto people
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You think wrong then.
Noones argued every decision, the prevailing opinion form arsenal fans has been
That´s the main point, exactly Crouch. But we really need talking about the main points that influcenced the outcome of the game.
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posted 17 minutes ago
To be fair, this works for you. The low block when leading, going down, keeper dropping on the ball when catching it, kicking the ball away and various other dark arts. Problem is there's a clamp down on this behaviour this season which Arsenal are suffering from.
Arteta has you playing with a a lot of similarities to Atletico Madrid. Although to be fair, there are not many, if any, teams who could have got a draw against City when down to ten. Without these tactics you likely wouldn't have either.
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They may very well be clamping down on it but they are not treating everyone the same. I believe recently one of your own players Szoboszlai who was on a yellow card kicked the ball away no second yellow. Doku yesterday kicks the ball away no card. The game against Brighton before Rice gets a second yellow Pedro kicks the ball away thirty yards up the field no card. I want Arsenal players to be smart but there is a double standard going on here.
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Don't remember the Szoboszlai one. Perhaps it was not as obvious as when Rice kicks it as the opposition were about to take a freekick, ie. delaying the restart. In real time I thought Trossard got a second yellow for his foul, which for me would have been warranted and to then boot the ball away he can't have any complaints.
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It was against Forest and guess who the referee was.
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Ah. I missed the Forest game so can't comment on that.
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posted on 23/9/24
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
The obvious issue is the lack of consistency. We literally saw a Liverpool player smash the ball away after fouling an opponent while on a yellow and there was no chance the ref was ever going to send him off. We even see cases in the games Arsenal players got sent off.
What doesn't help is the PGMOL head becoming a TV personality and saying the ref didn't give City a very obvious red because he didn't want a negative impact on the game, then a year later the same ref cannot wait to get the red out for an Arsenal player.
The laws of the game should be applied to all teams the same, it simply isn't at the moment. The refs had yet another shocking weekend, big errors across the board.
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What about your first goal yesterday? Any issues with that, or just the ones that go against you?
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Nothing wrong with the first goal. Walker was back in position and too bust shouting across at his team mates. The ball was about 2 yards further forward, but Bernardo had dribbled the ball 15 yards down the pitch so blame him for that (no yellow for that either...)
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Was this your reasoned response?
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 38 minutes ago
No point even debating or discussing with you. You clearly believe everyone decision goes against Arsenal and there is an agenda. And any decision you get in your favour or correct.
Honestly, no point. You crack on.
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Or this one?
posted on 23/9/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
The obvious issue is the lack of consistency. We literally saw a Liverpool player smash the ball away after fouling an opponent while on a yellow and there was no chance the ref was ever going to send him off. We even see cases in the games Arsenal players got sent off.
What doesn't help is the PGMOL head becoming a TV personality and saying the ref didn't give City a very obvious red because he didn't want a negative impact on the game, then a year later the same ref cannot wait to get the red out for an Arsenal player.
The laws of the game should be applied to all teams the same, it simply isn't at the moment. The refs had yet another shocking weekend, big errors across the board.
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What about your first goal yesterday? Any issues with that, or just the ones that go against you?
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Nothing wrong with the first goal. Walker was back in position and too bust shouting across at his team mates. The ball was about 2 yards further forward, but Bernardo had dribbled the ball 15 yards down the pitch so blame him for that (no yellow for that either...)
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Was this your reasoned response?
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Keep looking
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 32 minutes ago
OK, the ref called Walker over and then let Arsenal take the free kick quickly. You could argue that Walker was in position, but my thoughts (and alot of other people's) is that Walker was back literally within a tenth of a second and wasn't "set". The ref shouldn't have played until he was happy Walker was back in position AND SET as he was the reason Walker wasn't set for the free kick.
The free kick was also taken about 6 yards further forward, which I wouldn't have a huge issue with but taking the above into account I think this has an impact on Walker being set and in position.
Arsenal gained an unfair advantage IMO as a direct result of those 2 things.
P. S. for transparency, I know a few say the 2nd goal could have been a free kick but I disagree and thought it was a perfectly legitimate goal.
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Il help you out then
posted on 23/9/24
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
posted on 23/9/24
City crying about dark arts is quite hypocritical. They should get a dose of their own medicine.
posted on 23/9/24
Walker was in line with his defensive line and in the right back position. He was not moving further right, he was set in line with his fellow defenders, and shouting instructions. He was showing no intention of going anywhere other than where he was?
Given the debate is about delaying the restart, how long is the ref meant to give Walker once he is clearly in position?
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
City crying about dark arts is quite hypocritical. They should get a dose of their own medicine.
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posted on 23/9/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 seconds ago
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
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You asked for my reply and accused me of not responding to it. You may not agree with my view on it, but are you going to apologise for missing it and trying to be clever by replying to other comments of mine to try and make it look like I was dismissive.
We just have different views on the situation that's all. Thats OK.
I think we both know that you think there is an agenda against your team. You will argue every decision for and against on your favour.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
Walker was in line with his defensive line and in the right back position. He was not moving further right, he was set in line with his fellow defenders, and shouting instructions. He was showing no intention of going anywhere other than where he was?
Given the debate is about delaying the restart, how long is the ref meant to give Walker once he is clearly in position?
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That's your view. Unfortunately not shared by every pundit after the game (including Merson). But he probably has an agenda against Arsenal.
posted on 23/9/24
Finally a voice of reason from the Op in the midst of all the post match carnage, meltdowns and conspiracy theories.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 seconds ago
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
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You asked for my reply and accused me of not responding to it. You may not agree with my view on it, but are you going to apologise for missing it and trying to be clever by replying to other comments of mine to try and make it look like I was dismissive.
We just have different views on the situation that's all. Thats OK.
I think we both know that you think there is an agenda against your team. You will argue every decision for and against on your favour.
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Noones argued every decision, the prevailing opinion form arsenal fans has been
Delaying the restart is no applied consistently
Walker had enough time to get back
I think you've come on here with your mind made up about what arsenal fans think and then are trying to straw man that onto people
posted on 23/9/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 seconds ago
This has already been responded to
Free kick was further forward largely because Silva picks the ball up and takes it into his half (delaying the restart)
And the ref & arsenal are under no obligation to wait for walker to do a little team talk, he was in position
----------------------------------------------------------------------..
You asked for my reply and accused me of not responding to it. You may not agree with my view on it, but are you going to apologise for missing it and trying to be clever by replying to other comments of mine to try and make it look like I was dismissive.
We just have different views on the situation that's all. Thats OK.
I think we both know that you think there is an agenda against your team. You will argue every decision for and against on your favour.
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Noones argued every decision, the prevailing opinion form arsenal fans has been
Delaying the restart is no applied consistently
Walker had enough time to get back
I think you've come on here with your mind made up about what arsenal fans think and then are trying to straw man that onto people
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think wrong then.
posted on 23/9/24
Noones argued every decision, the prevailing opinion form arsenal fans has been
That´s the main point, exactly Crouch. But we really need talking about the main points that influcenced the outcome of the game.
posted on 23/9/24
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comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 17 minutes ago
To be fair, this works for you. The low block when leading, going down, keeper dropping on the ball when catching it, kicking the ball away and various other dark arts. Problem is there's a clamp down on this behaviour this season which Arsenal are suffering from.
Arteta has you playing with a a lot of similarities to Atletico Madrid. Although to be fair, there are not many, if any, teams who could have got a draw against City when down to ten. Without these tactics you likely wouldn't have either.
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They may very well be clamping down on it but they are not treating everyone the same. I believe recently one of your own players Szoboszlai who was on a yellow card kicked the ball away no second yellow. Doku yesterday kicks the ball away no card. The game against Brighton before Rice gets a second yellow Pedro kicks the ball away thirty yards up the field no card. I want Arsenal players to be smart but there is a double standard going on here.
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Don't remember the Szoboszlai one. Perhaps it was not as obvious as when Rice kicks it as the opposition were about to take a freekick, ie. delaying the restart. In real time I thought Trossard got a second yellow for his foul, which for me would have been warranted and to then boot the ball away he can't have any complaints.
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It was against Forest and guess who the referee was.
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Ah. I missed the Forest game so can't comment on that.
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