comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Bentacur Ugarte Fernandes
Kulu Hojlund Garnacho
I’d normally have Son over Garnacho but feel Son is very much on the wane, whilst Garnacho is on the way up. Fernandez and Maddison is up for debate too.
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How can you put Ugarte in there? He's barely played a game. That's ridiculous. As is putting Hojlund in ahead of someone who scored 20 Prem goals last year. Then there's no Maddison.
That's delusional, it really is.
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Because I’ve watch Ugarte play football before. Could put Bissouma in I guess, that would be peak Spurs to do that after three half decent games.
I don’t think you’ll find a fan outside of Tottenham that would have Maddison over Fernandes. I can’t think of a single metric available that gets Maddison in ahead of him really. Could be up for debate on bit of form, which is why I wrote that, but over a career? Let’s not be silly today, eh?
I’ve watched Solanke since he was a teenager, and I’m going for Hojlund thanks. His all round game shiiiiiiiiiits all over Dominic’s and you know what, I’m allowed to think that.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
United have the two best young centre backs in Europe in Martinez and De Ligt. With the best young centre back in the world still to come in and make his debut.
Shaw is the best left back in the world at the moment.
Ugarte is the best defensive mid in the world, only Rodri comes close.
Best attacking mid in the world in Fernandes.
Best young wide forward in the world in Garnacho.
Best young striker in the world in Hojland when he's back. World class back up in Zirkzee.
One of the best forwards of his generation in Rashford. From is temporary.
Only Son from 5 years ago would get in this United side.
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FFS, Barry!
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He’s right though, from is temporary
Combined 11's are the most ridiculous and pointless things in modern day football.
What's even the point of them? We will never see them in use.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Bentacur Ugarte Fernandes
Kulu Hojlund Garnacho
I’d normally have Son over Garnacho but feel Son is very much on the wane, whilst Garnacho is on the way up. Fernandez and Maddison is up for debate too.
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How can you put Ugarte in there? He's barely played a game. That's ridiculous. As is putting Hojlund in ahead of someone who scored 20 Prem goals last year. Then there's no Maddison.
That's delusional, it really is.
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Because I’ve watch Ugarte play football before. Could put Bissouma in I guess, that would be peak Spurs to do that after three half decent games.
I don’t think you’ll find a fan outside of Tottenham that would have Maddison over Fernandes. I can’t think of a single metric available that gets Maddison in ahead of him really. Could be up for debate on bit of form, which is why I wrote that, but over a career? Let’s not be silly today, eh?
I’ve watched Solanke since he was a teenager, and I’m going for Hojlund thanks. His all round game shiiiiiiiiiits all over Dominic’s and you know what, I’m allowed to think that.
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Urgate was awesome on PSGs bench last season.
Yeah he only played 37 times last season tbf.
Bissouma played 28.
Onana
Porro, Romero, VDV, Shaw
Maddison, Mainoo, Fernandes
Kulusewski, Solanke, Son
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah he only played 37 times last season tbf.
Bissouma played 28.
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Bissouma injured(2), suspended (5) and on international duty (5) last season. Otherwise started all but 1 PL game, missed 2 FA Cup games in int. duty, and benched for our our League Cup game.
Urgate just dropped, a squad player. Bit like Hojberg for us.
over their entire pl careers - with 2/3 of maddison's being at leicester - and per transfermarkt:
maddison - 89 npg+a, one every 170 minutes
fernandes - 76 npg+a, one very 188 minutes
fernandes has racked his numbers up in fewer seasons, because he doesn't get injured - which is great - but it is certainly arguable that, if both players are fit, as they are now, maddison is the better player (he is certainly more productive, and most people who rave about fernandes seem to do so based on his perceived incredible productivity, which has been a myth for at least the last 3 seasons).
Right, I guess we’re just forgetting that Bissouma was shiiiiiiiiit then? Okay.
Ugarte also got in the Copa team of the Tournament. There’s a reason the elite clubs didn’t want Bissouma, and personally I think Ugarte is a better player. It’s not exactly crazy.
This reminds me of when you said loads of Spurs players should get in the signings of the season on my thread last season. Or when you say Spurs conceding dozens of goals isn’t a system error
I’ll leave you to it.
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 29 minutes ago
Combined 11's are the most ridiculous and pointless things in modern day football.
What's even the point of them? We will never see them in use.
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They can be an effective way of monitoring levels of bias and delusion in the community.
There’s a reason the elite clubs didn’t want Bissouma,
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Same reason elite clubs didn't want Ugarte?
There's not much in it. I think I agree with people saying that United have more squad depth, but I think Spurs have a first 11 that is much clearer about the style of play they want to play.
Its been so long with Ten Hag as manager and still nobody really has a clue how he's trying to set up most weeks, he's a poor manager.
That being said I think United will win this, Spurs will go all Spursy on us again.
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
We’ve probably got more depth, but their squad isn’t as injury prone as ours.
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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Who are the better finishers? Solanke?
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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That's all you need really.
We can't save any shot or score any goal, doesn't bode well for football games
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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Who are the better finishers? Solanke?
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Son is probably the best finisher in football.
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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That's all you need really.
We can't save any shot or score any goal, doesn't bode well for football games
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Indeed. Spurs have been pretty crap for a long time but had Lloris making worldies and Kane and Son finishing everything for years. Dragged them up the table.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Bentacur Ugarte Fernandes
Kulu Hojlund Garnacho
I’d normally have Son over Garnacho but feel Son is very much on the wane, whilst Garnacho is on the way up. Fernandez and Maddison is up for debate too.
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How can you put Ugarte in there? He's barely played a game. That's ridiculous. As is putting Hojlund in ahead of someone who scored 20 Prem goals last year. Then there's no Maddison.
That's delusional, it really is.
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Because I’ve watch Ugarte play football before. Could put Bissouma in I guess, that would be peak Spurs to do that after three half decent games.
I don’t think you’ll find a fan outside of Tottenham that would have Maddison over Fernandes. I can’t think of a single metric available that gets Maddison in ahead of him really. Could be up for debate on bit of form, which is why I wrote that, but over a career? Let’s not be silly today, eh?
I’ve watched Solanke since he was a teenager, and I’m going for Hojlund thanks. His all round game shiiiiiiiiiits all over Dominic’s and you know what, I’m allowed to think that.
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And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 15 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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Not sure about that.
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
United have the two best young centre backs in Europe in Martinez and De Ligt. With the best young centre back in the world still to come in and make his debut.
Shaw is the best left back in the world at the moment.
Ugarte is the best defensive mid in the world, only Rodri comes close.
Best attacking mid in the world in Fernandes.
Best young wide forward in the world in Garnacho.
Best young striker in the world in Hojland when he's back. World class back up in Zirkzee.
One of the best forwards of his generation in Rashford. From is temporary.
Only Son from 5 years ago would get in this United side.
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From IS Temporary!
And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
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Good grief
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 25 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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I would take the United goalie over Vicario right now.
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
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Good grief
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What’s wrong with that? My point is that you can’t, in all seriousness, put a player in who’s completely untested in this league, however much you might rate him. You’d have probably put Casemiro in over Bissouma based on reputation but you absolutely wouldn’t now. Says everything.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
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Good grief
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What’s wrong with that? My point is that you can’t, in all seriousness, put a player in who’s completely untested in this league, however much you might rate him. You’d have probably put Casemiro in over Bissouma based on reputation but you absolutely wouldn’t now. Says everything.
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Really? Well first Casimero is and was approaching the twilight of his career. He also had a very good first season, but regardless Ugarte is approaching his prime having just made the copa team of tournament.
To compare the two is weak and desperate. Look, if you want to put Bissouma in there instead, that’s up to you, but I’m not.
Sorry about that and hope you’ll be okay.
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posted on 23/9/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Bentacur Ugarte Fernandes
Kulu Hojlund Garnacho
I’d normally have Son over Garnacho but feel Son is very much on the wane, whilst Garnacho is on the way up. Fernandez and Maddison is up for debate too.
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How can you put Ugarte in there? He's barely played a game. That's ridiculous. As is putting Hojlund in ahead of someone who scored 20 Prem goals last year. Then there's no Maddison.
That's delusional, it really is.
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Because I’ve watch Ugarte play football before. Could put Bissouma in I guess, that would be peak Spurs to do that after three half decent games.
I don’t think you’ll find a fan outside of Tottenham that would have Maddison over Fernandes. I can’t think of a single metric available that gets Maddison in ahead of him really. Could be up for debate on bit of form, which is why I wrote that, but over a career? Let’s not be silly today, eh?
I’ve watched Solanke since he was a teenager, and I’m going for Hojlund thanks. His all round game shiiiiiiiiiits all over Dominic’s and you know what, I’m allowed to think that.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 8 minutes ago
United have the two best young centre backs in Europe in Martinez and De Ligt. With the best young centre back in the world still to come in and make his debut.
Shaw is the best left back in the world at the moment.
Ugarte is the best defensive mid in the world, only Rodri comes close.
Best attacking mid in the world in Fernandes.
Best young wide forward in the world in Garnacho.
Best young striker in the world in Hojland when he's back. World class back up in Zirkzee.
One of the best forwards of his generation in Rashford. From is temporary.
Only Son from 5 years ago would get in this United side.
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FFS, Barry!
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He’s right though, from is temporary
posted on 23/9/24
Combined 11's are the most ridiculous and pointless things in modern day football.
What's even the point of them? We will never see them in use.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Bentacur Ugarte Fernandes
Kulu Hojlund Garnacho
I’d normally have Son over Garnacho but feel Son is very much on the wane, whilst Garnacho is on the way up. Fernandez and Maddison is up for debate too.
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How can you put Ugarte in there? He's barely played a game. That's ridiculous. As is putting Hojlund in ahead of someone who scored 20 Prem goals last year. Then there's no Maddison.
That's delusional, it really is.
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Because I’ve watch Ugarte play football before. Could put Bissouma in I guess, that would be peak Spurs to do that after three half decent games.
I don’t think you’ll find a fan outside of Tottenham that would have Maddison over Fernandes. I can’t think of a single metric available that gets Maddison in ahead of him really. Could be up for debate on bit of form, which is why I wrote that, but over a career? Let’s not be silly today, eh?
I’ve watched Solanke since he was a teenager, and I’m going for Hojlund thanks. His all round game shiiiiiiiiiits all over Dominic’s and you know what, I’m allowed to think that.
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Urgate was awesome on PSGs bench last season.
posted on 23/9/24
Yeah he only played 37 times last season tbf.
Bissouma played 28.
posted on 23/9/24
Onana
Porro, Romero, VDV, Shaw
Maddison, Mainoo, Fernandes
Kulusewski, Solanke, Son
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t ... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah he only played 37 times last season tbf.
Bissouma played 28.
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Bissouma injured(2), suspended (5) and on international duty (5) last season. Otherwise started all but 1 PL game, missed 2 FA Cup games in int. duty, and benched for our our League Cup game.
Urgate just dropped, a squad player. Bit like Hojberg for us.
posted on 23/9/24
over their entire pl careers - with 2/3 of maddison's being at leicester - and per transfermarkt:
maddison - 89 npg+a, one every 170 minutes
fernandes - 76 npg+a, one very 188 minutes
fernandes has racked his numbers up in fewer seasons, because he doesn't get injured - which is great - but it is certainly arguable that, if both players are fit, as they are now, maddison is the better player (he is certainly more productive, and most people who rave about fernandes seem to do so based on his perceived incredible productivity, which has been a myth for at least the last 3 seasons).
posted on 23/9/24
Right, I guess we’re just forgetting that Bissouma was shiiiiiiiiit then? Okay.
Ugarte also got in the Copa team of the Tournament. There’s a reason the elite clubs didn’t want Bissouma, and personally I think Ugarte is a better player. It’s not exactly crazy.
This reminds me of when you said loads of Spurs players should get in the signings of the season on my thread last season. Or when you say Spurs conceding dozens of goals isn’t a system error
I’ll leave you to it.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 29 minutes ago
Combined 11's are the most ridiculous and pointless things in modern day football.
What's even the point of them? We will never see them in use.
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They can be an effective way of monitoring levels of bias and delusion in the community.
posted on 23/9/24
There’s a reason the elite clubs didn’t want Bissouma,
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Same reason elite clubs didn't want Ugarte?
posted on 23/9/24
There's not much in it. I think I agree with people saying that United have more squad depth, but I think Spurs have a first 11 that is much clearer about the style of play they want to play.
Its been so long with Ten Hag as manager and still nobody really has a clue how he's trying to set up most weeks, he's a poor manager.
That being said I think United will win this, Spurs will go all Spursy on us again.
posted on 23/9/24
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
posted on 23/9/24
We’ve probably got more depth, but their squad isn’t as injury prone as ours.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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Who are the better finishers? Solanke?
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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That's all you need really.
We can't save any shot or score any goal, doesn't bode well for football games
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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Who are the better finishers? Solanke?
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Son is probably the best finisher in football.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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That's all you need really.
We can't save any shot or score any goal, doesn't bode well for football games
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Indeed. Spurs have been pretty crap for a long time but had Lloris making worldies and Kane and Son finishing everything for years. Dragged them up the table.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana
Porro Romero VDV Udogie
Bentacur Ugarte Fernandes
Kulu Hojlund Garnacho
I’d normally have Son over Garnacho but feel Son is very much on the wane, whilst Garnacho is on the way up. Fernandez and Maddison is up for debate too.
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How can you put Ugarte in there? He's barely played a game. That's ridiculous. As is putting Hojlund in ahead of someone who scored 20 Prem goals last year. Then there's no Maddison.
That's delusional, it really is.
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Because I’ve watch Ugarte play football before. Could put Bissouma in I guess, that would be peak Spurs to do that after three half decent games.
I don’t think you’ll find a fan outside of Tottenham that would have Maddison over Fernandes. I can’t think of a single metric available that gets Maddison in ahead of him really. Could be up for debate on bit of form, which is why I wrote that, but over a career? Let’s not be silly today, eh?
I’ve watched Solanke since he was a teenager, and I’m going for Hojlund thanks. His all round game shiiiiiiiiiits all over Dominic’s and you know what, I’m allowed to think that.
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And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 15 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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Not sure about that.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
United have the two best young centre backs in Europe in Martinez and De Ligt. With the best young centre back in the world still to come in and make his debut.
Shaw is the best left back in the world at the moment.
Ugarte is the best defensive mid in the world, only Rodri comes close.
Best attacking mid in the world in Fernandes.
Best young wide forward in the world in Garnacho.
Best young striker in the world in Hojland when he's back. World class back up in Zirkzee.
One of the best forwards of his generation in Rashford. From is temporary.
Only Son from 5 years ago would get in this United side.
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From IS Temporary!
posted on 23/9/24
And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
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Good grief
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 25 minutes ago
Spurs have better finishers and a better keeper, that’s about it really.
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I would take the United goalie over Vicario right now.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
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Good grief
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What’s wrong with that? My point is that you can’t, in all seriousness, put a player in who’s completely untested in this league, however much you might rate him. You’d have probably put Casemiro in over Bissouma based on reputation but you absolutely wouldn’t now. Says everything.
posted on 23/9/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
And I’d seen Casemiro play before he joined the Premier League. Nuff said.
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Good grief
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What’s wrong with that? My point is that you can’t, in all seriousness, put a player in who’s completely untested in this league, however much you might rate him. You’d have probably put Casemiro in over Bissouma based on reputation but you absolutely wouldn’t now. Says everything.
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Really? Well first Casimero is and was approaching the twilight of his career. He also had a very good first season, but regardless Ugarte is approaching his prime having just made the copa team of tournament.
To compare the two is weak and desperate. Look, if you want to put Bissouma in there instead, that’s up to you, but I’m not.
Sorry about that and hope you’ll be okay.
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