Very frustrating when its the other team, of course.
More and more I think football should just go to the same, stop the clock when the ball is not in play, and reduce the game to 35-40 minute halves?
Probably too big a change for the authorities though who take years over even the smallest adjustments.
Apparently they're trialing making the rule 8 seconds, but being stricter on it by giving corners against the offending team. On Monday night club they said its being trialled in the reserves league
Probably a stat that seems worse in isolation. For example, what is the average time for corners being taken in an average match? They usually have enough time to show multiple replays of the keeper save or whatever. They have to get the ball back, take it over to the corner, the centre backs have to come up, set up their corner etc. Probably end up being close to a minute for corners.
Setting up direct freekicks as well. From when the foul was committed to the attacker taking his kick. Probably about a minute.
We need further context to understand these things, rather than clickbait headlines.
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 22 minutes ago
Probably a stat that seems worse in isolation. For example, what is the average time for corners being taken in an average match? They usually have enough time to show multiple replays of the keeper save or whatever. They have to get the ball back, take it over to the corner, the centre backs have to come up, set up their corner etc. Probably end up being close to a minute for corners.
Setting up direct freekicks as well. From when the foul was committed to the attacker taking his kick. Probably about a minute.
We need further context to understand these things, rather than clickbait headlines.
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Also goal celebrations. Not needed. As soon as a goal is achieved, the attacking players should sprint back to their own half, enabling a restart within a minute or less.
Yes and,why not just send these boys to an Army boot camp to learn some discipline ! know what I mean mate !
One thing that is irritating me recently is refs seem to be moving away from advantage, particuarly in the final third.
I saw it last week where there was a 3v3, and the defender fouled the winger - they tried to take it quickly but the ref intervened, stopped it, took 90 seconds to draw his lines and allow the kick to be taken without even yellow carding the defender!
Don't know how that's remotely fair.
Deifnitely need the game to stop the clock when the balls not in play moving. They never get it right with stoppage times, always well off. Its such a simple thing to do too.
And they should take the average time the balls in play and add to it, so if its 32 mins round it up to 35 minute each halves. Fans should be given extra value for money esp the prices they're forced to pay these days.
Its destroy the purpose of a lot of the stuff we dislike in todays game.
Players picking up the ball after a foul and running off with it and not getting the same punishment as kicking the ball away often does is peeing me off.
They should introduce a one pass rule, meaning you can only pass it to a specific teammate once then he has to pass it to another teammate and so on
Then we would not have to sit and watch Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Gundogan
There’s 3-4 minutes wasted, penalise this nonsense and it would improve the sport as a spectacle
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 7 minutes ago
One thing that is irritating me recently is refs seem to be moving away from advantage, particuarly in the final third.
I saw it last week where there was a 3v3, and the defender fouled the winger - they tried to take it quickly but the ref intervened, stopped it, took 90 seconds to draw his lines and allow the kick to be taken without even yellow carding the defender!
Don't know how that's remotely fair.
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They have the new advantage that they play, like when someone is murdered but they can't be sure if it was murder so they let the phase play out and if the team score, then they can always bring it back and check the severity of the murder to see if it should be ruled out. Same for offsides.
My mate works as a doctor and he said they have seen a stark decline in the number of linesmen attending hospital with shoulder issues, suggesting that linesmen hardly ever put their flags up anymore and just allow play to continue and let VAR sort it out.
Yes the City/Arsenal game was an anomaly but Raya ended up taking 9 minutes to take his 12 goal kicks. Was any of that added on? Doubtful.
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Weren't 10 minutes literally added on?
I actually find it more frustrating when a keeper makes a simple catch, then falls forward onto the ground with the ball on their grasp. It happens numerous times in every game. I think Petr Cech introduced it and it's been a real peev for me ever since, as it's been replicated more and more frequently
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 48 seconds ago
Yes the City/Arsenal game was an anomaly but Raya ended up taking 9 minutes to take his 12 goal kicks. Was any of that added on? Doubtful.
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Weren't 10 minutes literally added on?
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what about 8 subs? raya sitting down so arteta could have a 2 minute team talk? and all the other stuff? its never enough or accurate.
Its the fans that lose out, quality is less as stoppages interrupt, wouldnt be surprised if more injuries occur as a result too. They get less actual football but pay more and more each year.
Simple enough solutiton to it all, baffling why theyve not done it.
The fans lost out in this game specifically because trossard was sent for kicking a fecking ball away. Don't let the the media spotlight on our tactics distract from that.
It was a great game up until the red. Real back and forth.
The way they refs / PGMOL flip flop from one hot rule to another.
Last season we were seeing 6, 7 , 8 minutes being added to most games, keepers being booked all the time for time wasting. That's largely stopped.
Also last season, loads of yellows for players contesting decisions. Now its back to being a free fall all most of the time, with the occasional enforcement of the rule.
Now its delaying the restart. Yellow is out in the blink of an eye.
What next?
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yes the City/Arsenal game was an anomaly but Raya ended up taking 9 minutes to take his 12 goal kicks. Was any of that added on? Doubtful.
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Weren't 10 minutes literally added on?
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Most of that was for other Arsenal timewasting stunts like players just sitting down so Arteta can do a team talk
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 31 seconds ago
The fans lost out in this game specifically because trossard was sent for kicking a fecking ball away. Don't let the the media spotlight on our tactics distract from that.
It was a great game up until the red. Real back and forth.
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I was surprised by Arteta's reaction. I thought he sat too early. Le Arsenal defend well but his tactics more or less prevented any possibility of a break way, and allowed City to just camp in your penalty area. Maybe he just doesn't have confidence in any of your forwards to play alone and hold the ball up?
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
I wasn't surprised by Arteta's reaction. 2 of our first choice midfielders were missing, and it nearly got us victory. In the end, city rescued the game from a set piece, which are apparently illegal now arsenal are good at them.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
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I didn’t realise that was in the 2nd half…
…after Rodri had gone off
Reminded me of Newcastle timewasting levels
It was kinda the same against Brighton. Arsenal were on top but once Rice was sent off they panicked and just let Brighton have the ball. You’d think with the possession game Arsenal have they could play their normal game to an extent rather than bin off plan A
Pickford’s usually the worst by a big margin, Raya is after his crown
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
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I didn’t realise that was in the 2nd half…
…after Rodri had gone off
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It's the principle, no? Or, as predicted, are you just moaning because city were largely nullified as a result?
I thought your teams celebrations were quite overzealous considering you'd just drawn at home to ten men.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
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I didn’t realise that was in the 2nd half…
…after Rodri had gone off
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It's the principle, no? Or, as predicted, are you just moaning because city were largely nullified as a result?
I thought your teams celebrations were quite overzealous considering you'd just drawn at home to ten men.
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Unlike the Arsenal players who ran over to the bench to mob Arteta after they equalised which must have wasted 3 minutes
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posted on 24/9/24
Very frustrating when its the other team, of course.
More and more I think football should just go to the same, stop the clock when the ball is not in play, and reduce the game to 35-40 minute halves?
Probably too big a change for the authorities though who take years over even the smallest adjustments.
posted on 24/9/24
Apparently they're trialing making the rule 8 seconds, but being stricter on it by giving corners against the offending team. On Monday night club they said its being trialled in the reserves league
posted on 24/9/24
Probably a stat that seems worse in isolation. For example, what is the average time for corners being taken in an average match? They usually have enough time to show multiple replays of the keeper save or whatever. They have to get the ball back, take it over to the corner, the centre backs have to come up, set up their corner etc. Probably end up being close to a minute for corners.
Setting up direct freekicks as well. From when the foul was committed to the attacker taking his kick. Probably about a minute.
We need further context to understand these things, rather than clickbait headlines.
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 22 minutes ago
Probably a stat that seems worse in isolation. For example, what is the average time for corners being taken in an average match? They usually have enough time to show multiple replays of the keeper save or whatever. They have to get the ball back, take it over to the corner, the centre backs have to come up, set up their corner etc. Probably end up being close to a minute for corners.
Setting up direct freekicks as well. From when the foul was committed to the attacker taking his kick. Probably about a minute.
We need further context to understand these things, rather than clickbait headlines.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also goal celebrations. Not needed. As soon as a goal is achieved, the attacking players should sprint back to their own half, enabling a restart within a minute or less.
posted on 24/9/24
Yes and,why not just send these boys to an Army boot camp to learn some discipline ! know what I mean mate !
posted on 24/9/24
One thing that is irritating me recently is refs seem to be moving away from advantage, particuarly in the final third.
I saw it last week where there was a 3v3, and the defender fouled the winger - they tried to take it quickly but the ref intervened, stopped it, took 90 seconds to draw his lines and allow the kick to be taken without even yellow carding the defender!
Don't know how that's remotely fair.
posted on 24/9/24
Deifnitely need the game to stop the clock when the balls not in play moving. They never get it right with stoppage times, always well off. Its such a simple thing to do too.
And they should take the average time the balls in play and add to it, so if its 32 mins round it up to 35 minute each halves. Fans should be given extra value for money esp the prices they're forced to pay these days.
Its destroy the purpose of a lot of the stuff we dislike in todays game.
posted on 24/9/24
Players picking up the ball after a foul and running off with it and not getting the same punishment as kicking the ball away often does is peeing me off.
posted on 24/9/24
They should introduce a one pass rule, meaning you can only pass it to a specific teammate once then he has to pass it to another teammate and so on
Then we would not have to sit and watch Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Rodri to akanji to Gundogan
There’s 3-4 minutes wasted, penalise this nonsense and it would improve the sport as a spectacle
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Chris H (U15205)
posted 7 minutes ago
One thing that is irritating me recently is refs seem to be moving away from advantage, particuarly in the final third.
I saw it last week where there was a 3v3, and the defender fouled the winger - they tried to take it quickly but the ref intervened, stopped it, took 90 seconds to draw his lines and allow the kick to be taken without even yellow carding the defender!
Don't know how that's remotely fair.
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They have the new advantage that they play, like when someone is murdered but they can't be sure if it was murder so they let the phase play out and if the team score, then they can always bring it back and check the severity of the murder to see if it should be ruled out. Same for offsides.
My mate works as a doctor and he said they have seen a stark decline in the number of linesmen attending hospital with shoulder issues, suggesting that linesmen hardly ever put their flags up anymore and just allow play to continue and let VAR sort it out.
posted on 24/9/24
Yes the City/Arsenal game was an anomaly but Raya ended up taking 9 minutes to take his 12 goal kicks. Was any of that added on? Doubtful.
===
Weren't 10 minutes literally added on?
posted on 24/9/24
I actually find it more frustrating when a keeper makes a simple catch, then falls forward onto the ground with the ball on their grasp. It happens numerous times in every game. I think Petr Cech introduced it and it's been a real peev for me ever since, as it's been replicated more and more frequently
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 48 seconds ago
Yes the City/Arsenal game was an anomaly but Raya ended up taking 9 minutes to take his 12 goal kicks. Was any of that added on? Doubtful.
===
Weren't 10 minutes literally added on?
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what about 8 subs? raya sitting down so arteta could have a 2 minute team talk? and all the other stuff? its never enough or accurate.
Its the fans that lose out, quality is less as stoppages interrupt, wouldnt be surprised if more injuries occur as a result too. They get less actual football but pay more and more each year.
Simple enough solutiton to it all, baffling why theyve not done it.
posted on 24/9/24
The fans lost out in this game specifically because trossard was sent for kicking a fecking ball away. Don't let the the media spotlight on our tactics distract from that.
It was a great game up until the red. Real back and forth.
posted on 24/9/24
The way they refs / PGMOL flip flop from one hot rule to another.
Last season we were seeing 6, 7 , 8 minutes being added to most games, keepers being booked all the time for time wasting. That's largely stopped.
Also last season, loads of yellows for players contesting decisions. Now its back to being a free fall all most of the time, with the occasional enforcement of the rule.
Now its delaying the restart. Yellow is out in the blink of an eye.
What next?
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 9 minutes ago
Yes the City/Arsenal game was an anomaly but Raya ended up taking 9 minutes to take his 12 goal kicks. Was any of that added on? Doubtful.
===
Weren't 10 minutes literally added on?
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Most of that was for other Arsenal timewasting stunts like players just sitting down so Arteta can do a team talk
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 31 seconds ago
The fans lost out in this game specifically because trossard was sent for kicking a fecking ball away. Don't let the the media spotlight on our tactics distract from that.
It was a great game up until the red. Real back and forth.
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I was surprised by Arteta's reaction. I thought he sat too early. Le Arsenal defend well but his tactics more or less prevented any possibility of a break way, and allowed City to just camp in your penalty area. Maybe he just doesn't have confidence in any of your forwards to play alone and hold the ball up?
posted on 24/9/24
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
posted on 24/9/24
I wasn't surprised by Arteta's reaction. 2 of our first choice midfielders were missing, and it nearly got us victory. In the end, city rescued the game from a set piece, which are apparently illegal now arsenal are good at them.
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
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I didn’t realise that was in the 2nd half…
…after Rodri had gone off
posted on 24/9/24
Reminded me of Newcastle timewasting levels
posted on 24/9/24
It was kinda the same against Brighton. Arsenal were on top but once Rice was sent off they panicked and just let Brighton have the ball. You’d think with the possession game Arsenal have they could play their normal game to an extent rather than bin off plan A
posted on 24/9/24
Pickford’s usually the worst by a big margin, Raya is after his crown
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
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I didn’t realise that was in the 2nd half…
…after Rodri had gone off
===
It's the principle, no? Or, as predicted, are you just moaning because city were largely nullified as a result?
I thought your teams celebrations were quite overzealous considering you'd just drawn at home to ten men.
posted on 24/9/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah, or rodri taking a 3 minute break clutching his face after he was merely shoulder barged by havertz.
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I didn’t realise that was in the 2nd half…
…after Rodri had gone off
===
It's the principle, no? Or, as predicted, are you just moaning because city were largely nullified as a result?
I thought your teams celebrations were quite overzealous considering you'd just drawn at home to ten men.
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Unlike the Arsenal players who ran over to the bench to mob Arteta after they equalised which must have wasted 3 minutes
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