Whatever the calls, I thought we look far from out of place in this division. A few cases of cases half a yard behind players and some under hit, but we will get up to pace. No point in pondering the what-if's - we are doing better than expected and onwards and upwards.

Obviously it was not handball and would not have been given as a penalty. It should have been a goal kick. But we have no idea how the game would have evolved subsequently if the correct decision had been made. Maybe we would have won ten-nil, maybe we would have lost ten-nil, who knows. The only time a decision can definitely have been said to have affected the outcome is if it is at the very end of the game. The rest is just guesswork and conjecture. That’s why, aggravating though it is, there is no point gnashing our teeth about it over much.

And to ease the gnashings, a frost and first stags roaring on the hill this evening. Atavistic stuff.

comment by 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 HebridesRam (U2909)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
And to ease the gnashings, a frost and first stags roaring on the hill this evening. Atavistic stuff.
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Yes...and I'm laid in bed at 7.30am looking out at the Mediterranean Sea...and all is well in the world ...UTR

Dcfc highlights dont include Norwich's 2nd goal.
2-2 it is then, quite rightly

comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 still 'Rockin' ... (U17428)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Dcfc highlights dont include Norwich's 2nd goal.
2-2 it is then, quite rightly
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Wasn't that the legit one!

comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 still 'Rockin' ... (U17428)
posted about 3 hours ago
Dcfc highlights dont include Norwich's 2nd goal.
2-2 it is then, quite rightly
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They do now

comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 still 'Rockin' ... (U17428)
posted about 3 hours ago
Dcfc highlights dont include Norwich's 2nd goal.
2-2 it is then, quite rightly
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They do now
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Not sure I want to see it

Vidal is, as ever measured and wise. That said, a game in which 3 of the goals should not have counted is a nonsense. Just have a penalty shoot-out if that is to be the standard of officiating.

comment by 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 HebridesRam (U2909)
posted about 2 hours ago
Vidal is, as ever measured and wise. That said, a game in which 3 of the goals should not have counted is a nonsense. Just have a penalty shoot-out if that is to be the standard of officiating.
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Hopefully not with that linesman deciding whether they cross the line

comment by 🏁 AnglianRam 🏁 still 'Rockin' On' (U17428)
posted about an hour ago
comment by 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 HebridesRam (U2909)
posted about 2 hours ago
Vidal is, as ever measured and wise. That said, a game in which 3 of the goals should not have counted is a nonsense. Just have a penalty shoot-out if that is to be the standard of officiating.
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Hopefully not with that linesman deciding whether they cross the line
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He'd only give a goal if the ball ended-up in Alvo Park.

I must admit I've not watched any VAR matches. Do we think it would be an advantage or disadvantage over a season ?

The thing with Var Terry is that if it works in your favour it's fine but if it does not then it's an absolute pain. I suppose the good and bad results should even out over a season but then that is said about non-VAR matches.

I dislike it because if a "goal" is scored then everyone wants to know almost immediately if it will be allowed to stand. There's nothing like an immediate goal celebration. But when you watch a Prem game and often have to wait several minutes before the Var makes his decision, what an anticlimax when it finally arrives! At present the technology is not good enough for any situations other than whether or not the ball has crossed the line for a goal (or not) and of course the sort of thing leading to Norwich's first "goal". So much still depends on the opinion of the VAR so are we really any better off? Prior to VAR anyone could be left gnashing teeth over decisions but that was accepted as part and parcel of the game. At least excitement levels were not interrupted. VAR is to a large extent taking responsibility away from the usual officials so maybe that leads to less on-field competence. But when offside is given by the VAR (after several minutes) for a fraction of a centimeter what a farce!

I would prefer to remain VARless unless the technology is substantially improved and meanwhile officials need to improve. On the other hand villifying them for errors is counter-productive.

We had a dose of VAR against us very early on. Bryson scored a beauty in an FA Cup game away at Southampton, but it was adjudged to be offside by a toenail.

Im guessing 2019 or early 2020 (before Covid).

Dont think we'll ever reach a concensus about the value of var.
I dont think that the ball being in or out of play should be considered as a subjective decision, its black or white.
We have goal line technology in the Championship, which is transmitted almost instantly to the ref. Surely we can extend this to cover the whole of the line from corner flag to corner flag ?
Tennis & cricket have used hawkeye for years, so the technology exists and with the advent of AI, further improvements will emerge.
Regarding var, I seem to remember that it was used pretty rapidly in the Euros (apart from when a certain UK arbiter was in charge).
I just know that, for the sake of my health, I need to avoid episodes of extreme & obvious injustice like we saw on Sat.

PS Excellent debate on the Moan In with Malcolm C this eve. Worth listening on catch-up.

Hmmmm...
I think that "was it a foul" is a subjective decision...if the ball is out of play it's simply NOT subjective is it.
I agree if we have the technology for a ball crossing the goal line then surely it can be extended.
But from what I've heard about VAR it takes the spontaneity out of the game....so it's a no from me.

'I think that "was it a foul" is a subjective decision...if the ball is out of play it's simply NOT subjective is it.'

Thought that was what I implied 🤔
In any case, I agree.