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Gareth Bale - best British player ever?

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posted on 1/10/24

Stand by what i said, Bales the far better athlete and footballer and if they faces eachother theres only one winner. Bale was extremely skillful and a wonderful left foot, wasn't all just pace and power.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 21 minutes ago
I went on a few dates with Bale's kid's teacher in Madrid. She had to do parents evenings with him lol


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And do his ears need pinned anaw?

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Scott Fraser (U1734)
posted 33 minutes ago
1. Rooney
2. Charlton
3. Scholes
4. Giggs
5. Best
6. Carrick (underrated)
7. Ferdinand
8. Neville
9. Beckham
10. Bale
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Blatant wum. The fact Neville gets in there is the biggest tell, plus I hate to break it to you, Beckham is not in the equation. Not even close. The only ones that qualify on this list are Rooney, Charlton, Scholes, Giggs, Best and Bale.
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Do you think that Carriack should be higher? People often underrate him which is maybe why I put him so low on the list. Doing him an injustice and should be higher. Very underrated player.
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Was gonna say this. You've done him a disservice by placing him in sixth. Very underrated player
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I don't even need to take your word for it. It actually says as much in the list itself.

posted on 1/10/24

It’s a very good debate really, not managed to read the replies.

On pure footballing technical ability, I’d go Dalglish I reckon. May be biased but he really was exceptional at pretty much everything.

On moments, Bale. Absolutely fantastic career.

On longevity, Giggs.

I’d probably put them in that order too, tbh.

posted on 1/10/24

Actually I’m going to swap Giggs with Rooney. I’d have Rooney above Bale but the latter had some amazing achievements for both club and country.

Dalglish
Rooney
Bale

Too many honourable mentions to mention.

posted on 1/10/24

Haha just noticed I’d still put Rooney in second. Sticking with that three in order now though.

Dalglish
Rooney
Bale

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 7 seconds ago
Actually I’m going to swap Giggs with Rooney. I’d have Rooney above Bale but the latter had some amazing achievements for both club and country.

Dalglish
Rooney
Bale

Too many honourable mentions to mention.
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Yeah Rooney is up there.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 10 minutes ago
Stand by what i said, Bales the far better athlete and footballer and if they faces eachother theres only one winner. Bale was extremely skillful and a wonderful left foot, wasn't all just pace and power.
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Depends when you were born I guess, a lot of people forget Giggs played first team football for 22 years and there was a period in the 90's he was the Premier Leagues hottest property.

I would agree Bale, at his peak, was a better player than Giggs, but there's a debate to be had.

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 10 minutes ago
Stand by what i said, Bales the far better athlete and footballer and if they faces eachother theres only one winner. Bale was extremely skillful and a wonderful left foot, wasn't all just pace and power.
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Depends when you were born I guess, a lot of people forget Giggs played first team football for 22 years and there was a period in the 90's he was the Premier Leagues hottest property.

I would agree Bale, at his peak, was a better player than Giggs, but there's a debate to be had.
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I don’t think there’s a right or wrong with these ones.

Giggs should get props for managing to change his position as he got older too, something Bale wouldn’t have been able to do imo.

If you’re as old as me Busby you’ll remember Giggs getting pelters for not being able to cross in his early career.

The game was less about numbers then too.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 1/10/24

If you take clutch moments and big trophies out of it and look at consistency and stats, then no. Arguably those are things that help sway it in a player's favour but when you've had one very good season at Spurs and some scattered good seasons at Real, it doesn't amount to too much.

Surely the likes of Greaves and others who have been consistent season after season over a long period, would be ahead?

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 1/10/24

"If you’re as old as me Busby you’ll remember Giggs getting pelters for not being able to cross in his early career."

In fairness that stuck with him throughout his career, he could never beat the first man on a corner. He created chances through the volume of his deliveries, he could beat his full back multiple times a game.

Watching back on highlights just now, he had a very unique dribbling style, quite unpredictable.

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 seconds ago
If you take clutch moments and big trophies out of it and look at consistency and stats, then no. Arguably those are things that help sway it in a player's favour but when you've had one very good season at Spurs and some scattered good seasons at Real, it doesn't amount to too much.

Surely the likes of Greaves and others who have been consistent season after season over a long period, would be ahead?
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Yeah, always depends what the barometers are. Why i like to look at just the player as an athlete and footballer... the basics. If you start factoring in team accolades etc it gets messy, and theres always counter arguments like well he was in a better team etc.

posted on 1/10/24

Yeah he could go either way, but it was his pace of dribbling and amount of touches he had that was crazy.

Only similar style I can think of is McManaman

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 10 minutes ago
Stand by what i said, Bales the far better athlete and footballer and if they faces eachother theres only one winner. Bale was extremely skillful and a wonderful left foot, wasn't all just pace and power.
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Depends when you were born I guess, a lot of people forget Giggs played first team football for 22 years and there was a period in the 90's he was the Premier Leagues hottest property.

I would agree Bale, at his peak, was a better player than Giggs, but there's a debate to be had.
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I don’t think there’s a right or wrong with these ones.

Giggs should get props for managing to change his position as he got older too, something Bale wouldn’t have been able to do imo.

If you’re as old as me Busby you’ll remember Giggs getting pelters for not being able to cross in his early career.

The game was less about numbers then too.
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Bale started off as a left back. Changed as he matured and became a winger for Spurs and wide forward for Real Madrid. Then in his latter years for Wales he changed his position to essentially the whole of Wales. Essentially Wales played in a position for Bale, not the other way around.

If you want to compare Bale and Giggs, just look at each of their impacts on the Wales team.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 10 minutes ago
Stand by what i said, Bales the far better athlete and footballer and if they faces eachother theres only one winner. Bale was extremely skillful and a wonderful left foot, wasn't all just pace and power.
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Depends when you were born I guess, a lot of people forget Giggs played first team football for 22 years and there was a period in the 90's he was the Premier Leagues hottest property.

I would agree Bale, at his peak, was a better player than Giggs, but there's a debate to be had.
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I don’t think there’s a right or wrong with these ones.

Giggs should get props for managing to change his position as he got older too, something Bale wouldn’t have been able to do imo.

If you’re as old as me Busby you’ll remember Giggs getting pelters for not being able to cross in his early career.

The game was less about numbers then too.
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I'd say that Giggs was a better defender than Bale too and more willing to do that side of the game. Bale I suspect will have the better output over the course of his career, but probably played in a more attacking role than Giggs for the majority of his career. Giggs was expected to attack and defend.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 42 minutes ago
Stand by what i said, Bales the far better athlete and footballer and if they faces eachother theres only one winner. Bale was extremely skillful and a wonderful left foot, wasn't all just pace and power.
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Bale is certainly the better athlete, but I don't think that he would actually be able to get the ball of Giggs.

When you look at Bale's best moments, a lot of them are kicking the ball past the defender and powering past them. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, but he didn't have the same skill level as Giggs when it came to carrying the ball. Watching Giggs run with the ball in his prime was a joy to behold. Beats a sprinter for me every time.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 seconds ago
If you take clutch moments and big trophies out of it and look at consistency and stats, then no. Arguably those are things that help sway it in a player's favour but when you've had one very good season at Spurs and some scattered good seasons at Real, it doesn't amount to too much.

Surely the likes of Greaves and others who have been consistent season after season over a long period, would be ahead?
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Yeah, always depends what the barometers are. Why i like to look at just the player as an athlete and footballer... the basics. If you start factoring in team accolades etc it gets messy, and theres always counter arguments like well he was in a better team etc.
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Or that he was a bit part player for large parts of his Real Madrid time. He had some great moments though. You would arguably say he was more of a moments player. I'd also say that we (Spurs) had the best of him though it really didn't last long enough.

I'd be tempted to put someone like Kane above him just on the basis of consistency, despite Kane's lack of silverware....so far.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 21 minutes ago
"If you’re as old as me Busby you’ll remember Giggs getting pelters for not being able to cross in his early career."

In fairness that stuck with him throughout his career, he could never beat the first man on a corner. He created chances through the volume of his deliveries, he could beat his full back multiple times a game.

Watching back on highlights just now, he had a very unique dribbling style, quite unpredictable.

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Twisted blood.....

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 15 minutes ago
Yeah he could go either way, but it was his pace of dribbling and amount of touches he had that was crazy.

Only similar style I can think of is McManaman
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Yeh, he would constantly chop the ball from side to side and the defender didn't have a clue which way he was going to go.

posted on 1/10/24

Yeah I'd have Giggs over Bale also. I'd says Giggs has become underrated due to his off the field antics. Bale was a good dribbler but it was more kick it past the player and then run really fast. Giggs ran at pace with the ball glued to his feet and turned inside and out. I'd imagine as a wide player in today's systems he'd have a much larger output but he was a near perfect wide player, especially in the 90s when he got up and down. I think due to this United fans overrated Irwin, who I thought was a good player but not as good as they make him out to be. He got a lot of support from Giggs.

posted on 1/10/24

Is there any non-United fan that would pick Giggs over Bale?

There's the longevity argument but on quality at their peak, Bale was clearly better.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 14 minutes ago
Yeah I'd have Giggs over Bale also. I'd says Giggs has become underrated due to his off the field antics. Bale was a good dribbler but it was more kick it past the player and then run really fast. Giggs ran at pace with the ball glued to his feet and turned inside and out. I'd imagine as a wide player in today's systems he'd have a much larger output but he was a near perfect wide player, especially in the 90s when he got up and down. I think due to this United fans overrated Irwin, who I thought was a good player but not as good as they make him out to be. He got a lot of support from Giggs.
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Fecks sake TOOR, you can't get through a single post without a wum these days.

posted on 1/10/24

Bale was more Kanchelskis than Giggs

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bale was more Kanchelskis than Giggs
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Yeh, both decent dribblers, but not on Giggs' level.

I always felt it was a shame that the mafia forced the sale of Kanchelskis.

posted on 1/10/24

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 seconds ago
If you take clutch moments and big trophies out of it and look at consistency and stats, then no. Arguably those are things that help sway it in a player's favour but when you've had one very good season at Spurs and some scattered good seasons at Real, it doesn't amount to too much.

Surely the likes of Greaves and others who have been consistent season after season over a long period, would be ahead?
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Yeah, always depends what the barometers are. Why i like to look at just the player as an athlete and footballer... the basics. If you start factoring in team accolades etc it gets messy, and theres always counter arguments like well he was in a better team etc.
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Or that he was a bit part player for large parts of his Real Madrid time. He had some great moments though. You would arguably say he was more of a moments player. I'd also say that we (Spurs) had the best of him though it really didn't last long enough.

I'd be tempted to put someone like Kane above him just on the basis of consistency, despite Kane's lack of silverware....so far.
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Bale in a big game or Kane in a big game?

For example, would you want Bale in your team in the final of the Euros, or Kane?

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