comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority
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Okay, ‘most of’
In a 2021 census, 42.8% of people in Northern Ireland identified as British, 33.3% identified as Irish, and 31.5% identified as Northern Irish
When I saw the title of this thread, I knew it was a Robb sharticle
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
In a 2021 census, 42.8% of people in Northern Ireland identified as British, 33.3% identified as Irish, and 31.5% identified as Northern Irish
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“Identified as”. It doesn’t mean they’re correct. By that very metric, there are more people in NI who identify as not British than there are who identify as British.
People also move. A third of the Falklanders identify as British. I am currently in Bradford and I’ll bet there is a strong diversity of cultural identification here. It doesn’t change the fact that they’re in Britain.
As I say, this is not a question of political allegiance or identification, it’s a case of geographic fact. There is Great Britain and, next to it, there is Ireland. The point is pedantic, I accept, but it’s factually accurate
Do you know what facks me off?
American cants calling me British.
I am English through and through buddy.
I do not have a "British" accent you american dumb cant. There is no such thing as a "british" accent.
I see red if someone calls me British.
It's like me saying "he has an Asian accent" or me saying so someone who lives in Mexico "she has an american accent"
Dumb priiicks, don't know their ars e from their elbow.
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
In a 2021 census, 42.8% of people in Northern Ireland identified as British, 33.3% identified as Irish, and 31.5% identified as Northern Irish
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“Identified as”. It doesn’t mean they’re correct. By that very metric, there are more people in NI who identify as not British than there are who identify as British.
People also move. A third of the Falklanders identify as British. I am currently in Bradford and I’ll bet there is a strong diversity of cultural identification here. It doesn’t change the fact that they’re in Britain.
As I say, this is not a question of political allegiance or identification, it’s a case of geographic fact. There is Great Britain and, next to it, there is Ireland. The point is pedantic, I accept, but it’s factually accurate
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Surely the pedantic position would be looking at their individual citizenship as to whether they’re considered British or not?
Or to a Turkish person 'i love your European accent"
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
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You did yourself a disservice by claiming geographical fact, because in geographical terms, Ireland and Great Britain are both part of the same archipelago commonly known as the British Isles. From that geograhical perspective, it's totally correct to refer to the natives of any of those islands as 'British'.
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
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You did yourself a disservice by claiming geographical fact, because in geographical terms, Ireland and Great Britain are both part of the same archipelago commonly known as the British Isles. From that geograhical perspective, it's totally correct to refer to the natives of any of those islands as 'British'.
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This is admittedly a good point, although that would also categorise the ROI as being British, and I don’t think any of us would suggest that?
After some reading, it also appears that the British Isles =/= the British Islands, with the Channel Islands being excluded from the former but included in the latter. So if Matt le Tiss is your answer, we have to move the goalposts again
No, we wouldn't use the term "British" to refer to people from Ireland, but that's due to political rather than geographical considerations.
I don't know if you mean the UK. If so the answer is George Best.
If not there is a group including him.
Bobby Charlton, Denis Law, Kenny Dalgleish, Bryan Robson.
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
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You did yourself a disservice by claiming geographical fact, because in geographical terms, Ireland and Great Britain are both part of the same archipelago commonly known as the British Isles. From that geograhical perspective, it's totally correct to refer to the natives of any of those islands as 'British'.
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This is admittedly a good point, although that would also categorise the ROI as being British, and I don’t think any of us would suggest that?
After some reading, it also appears that the British Isles =/= the British Islands, with the Channel Islands being excluded from the former but included in the latter. So if Matt le Tiss is your answer, we have to move the goalposts again
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If the natives don't understand it, what chance Americans?
The Scottish Census continues to expose interesting insights into who and where we are, our religion, our language our identity (of which more later). One of the standout figures from the survey results showed that 66.5% of people identify themselves as Scottish and only 8.2% identify as British.
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Fvcking brilliant that the Irish are more British than the Scots
I didn’t know any of this!
(SORRY TO TALK ABOTU THE ACTUAL TOPIC IN THE OP)
I always thought Bale was pretty underrated for his impact. Largely he ended up going to one of two teams in the world at the time where he wouldn't be the number 1 star player. As a result he didnt get to pad his stats with pens/set pieces which would have changed a lot of perception of him.
In terms of skillset and capability he pretty much had it all; in terms of big moments a lot of RMs biggest moments he was responsible for the winning goal or key moment; internationally his record was incredible and he managed to really wind up Madrista's like IOAG so win-win-win-win in my opinion.
He also managed to brainwash Spurs fans into thinking he gave an actual fack about us as well which is fair play
I'm from Belfast, and if someone asked me if I was British or Irish, I would quite simply say both and not give it much more thought - there are more important things to worry about.....
The best blind British footballer ever was Gareth Braille.
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
The best blind British footballer ever was Gareth Braille.
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Honestly, you couldn’t write this stuff
comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
The best blind British footballer ever was Gareth Braille.
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Honestly, you couldn’t write this stuff
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Reading of the game was second to none
Think he had a bumpy time at Madrid
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I think you're a little confused. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country in its own right. The people within it are British citizens. Of course due to the nature of Northern Ireland, people can choose to hold an Irish passport instead and call themselves Irish but George Best certainly wasn't of that mindset.
You're getting nationality confused with Geographic location. The citizens of the United Kingdom are British. There is no such country as Britain. Great Britain is an island. Perhaps you'd prefer people call themselves United Kingdomers?
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country in its own right
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I simply refuse to be called Scottish, Irish or Welsh.
We are not the same thanks. I am not from the same country as those scoundrels
I take back what I said about Giggs and John Charles. I just checked Bales Honours on Wikipedia and he won a League Cup with Spurs in 2008.
And no player has done it since.
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Gareth Bale - best British player ever?
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posted on 1/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
posted on 1/10/24
Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority
———-
Okay, ‘most of’
posted on 1/10/24
In a 2021 census, 42.8% of people in Northern Ireland identified as British, 33.3% identified as Irish, and 31.5% identified as Northern Irish
posted on 1/10/24
When I saw the title of this thread, I knew it was a Robb sharticle
posted on 1/10/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
In a 2021 census, 42.8% of people in Northern Ireland identified as British, 33.3% identified as Irish, and 31.5% identified as Northern Irish
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“Identified as”. It doesn’t mean they’re correct. By that very metric, there are more people in NI who identify as not British than there are who identify as British.
People also move. A third of the Falklanders identify as British. I am currently in Bradford and I’ll bet there is a strong diversity of cultural identification here. It doesn’t change the fact that they’re in Britain.
As I say, this is not a question of political allegiance or identification, it’s a case of geographic fact. There is Great Britain and, next to it, there is Ireland. The point is pedantic, I accept, but it’s factually accurate
posted on 1/10/24
Do you know what facks me off?
American cants calling me British.
I am English through and through buddy.
I do not have a "British" accent you american dumb cant. There is no such thing as a "british" accent.
I see red if someone calls me British.
It's like me saying "he has an Asian accent" or me saying so someone who lives in Mexico "she has an american accent"
Dumb priiicks, don't know their ars e from their elbow.
posted on 1/10/24
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
In a 2021 census, 42.8% of people in Northern Ireland identified as British, 33.3% identified as Irish, and 31.5% identified as Northern Irish
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“Identified as”. It doesn’t mean they’re correct. By that very metric, there are more people in NI who identify as not British than there are who identify as British.
People also move. A third of the Falklanders identify as British. I am currently in Bradford and I’ll bet there is a strong diversity of cultural identification here. It doesn’t change the fact that they’re in Britain.
As I say, this is not a question of political allegiance or identification, it’s a case of geographic fact. There is Great Britain and, next to it, there is Ireland. The point is pedantic, I accept, but it’s factually accurate
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Surely the pedantic position would be looking at their individual citizenship as to whether they’re considered British or not?
posted on 1/10/24
Or to a Turkish person 'i love your European accent"
posted on 1/10/24
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
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You did yourself a disservice by claiming geographical fact, because in geographical terms, Ireland and Great Britain are both part of the same archipelago commonly known as the British Isles. From that geograhical perspective, it's totally correct to refer to the natives of any of those islands as 'British'.
posted on 1/10/24
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
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You did yourself a disservice by claiming geographical fact, because in geographical terms, Ireland and Great Britain are both part of the same archipelago commonly known as the British Isles. From that geograhical perspective, it's totally correct to refer to the natives of any of those islands as 'British'.
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This is admittedly a good point, although that would also categorise the ROI as being British, and I don’t think any of us would suggest that?
After some reading, it also appears that the British Isles =/= the British Islands, with the Channel Islands being excluded from the former but included in the latter. So if Matt le Tiss is your answer, we have to move the goalposts again
posted on 1/10/24
No, we wouldn't use the term "British" to refer to people from Ireland, but that's due to political rather than geographical considerations.
posted on 1/10/24
I don't know if you mean the UK. If so the answer is George Best.
If not there is a group including him.
Bobby Charlton, Denis Law, Kenny Dalgleish, Bryan Robson.
posted on 1/10/24
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I’d let google know cos I just put in is N Ireland British?
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The answer Google gives me when I ask that is “yes, Northern Ireland is part of the UK”, which isn’t the question.
This also isn’t a question of political allegiance as it’s geographic fact that Great Britain is the landmass next to Ireland.
A lot of people from Gibraltar, the Channel Islands, IoM would also call themselves British, but it doesn’t mean they’re correct; it’s symptomatic of a lack of education on the specific meanings. Also, it says 42.8%, which isn’t a majority.
It’s like is Scotland became wholly devolved from the UK - it would still be part of Great Britain, though you can bet the folk there wouldn’t call themselves that.
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You did yourself a disservice by claiming geographical fact, because in geographical terms, Ireland and Great Britain are both part of the same archipelago commonly known as the British Isles. From that geograhical perspective, it's totally correct to refer to the natives of any of those islands as 'British'.
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This is admittedly a good point, although that would also categorise the ROI as being British, and I don’t think any of us would suggest that?
After some reading, it also appears that the British Isles =/= the British Islands, with the Channel Islands being excluded from the former but included in the latter. So if Matt le Tiss is your answer, we have to move the goalposts again
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If the natives don't understand it, what chance Americans?
posted on 1/10/24
The Scottish Census continues to expose interesting insights into who and where we are, our religion, our language our identity (of which more later). One of the standout figures from the survey results showed that 66.5% of people identify themselves as Scottish and only 8.2% identify as British.
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Fvcking brilliant that the Irish are more British than the Scots
posted on 1/10/24
I didn’t know any of this!
posted on 1/10/24
(SORRY TO TALK ABOTU THE ACTUAL TOPIC IN THE OP)
I always thought Bale was pretty underrated for his impact. Largely he ended up going to one of two teams in the world at the time where he wouldn't be the number 1 star player. As a result he didnt get to pad his stats with pens/set pieces which would have changed a lot of perception of him.
In terms of skillset and capability he pretty much had it all; in terms of big moments a lot of RMs biggest moments he was responsible for the winning goal or key moment; internationally his record was incredible and he managed to really wind up Madrista's like IOAG so win-win-win-win in my opinion.
posted on 1/10/24
He also managed to brainwash Spurs fans into thinking he gave an actual fack about us as well which is fair play
posted on 1/10/24
I'm from Belfast, and if someone asked me if I was British or Irish, I would quite simply say both and not give it much more thought - there are more important things to worry about.....
posted on 1/10/24
The best blind British footballer ever was Gareth Braille.
posted on 1/10/24
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
The best blind British footballer ever was Gareth Braille.
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Honestly, you couldn’t write this stuff
posted on 1/10/24
comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by it'sonlyagame - in Springfield they're eating the dogs (U6426)
posted 13 minutes ago
The best blind British footballer ever was Gareth Braille.
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Honestly, you couldn’t write this stuff
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Reading of the game was second to none
posted on 1/10/24
Think he had a bumpy time at Madrid
posted on 1/10/24
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 2 hours, 17 minutes ago
It’s absolutely not British and it would be ill-advised to call anyone from NI British.
“Britain” refers to the geographic landmass of Great Britain, which is an island comprising the nations of England, Wales, and Scotland. Annoyingly, there’s no landmass named ‘Little Britain’ or just ‘Britain’, as the addition of “Great” implies.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland refers to England, Wales, Scotland, and NI.
NI is situated on the geographic landmass Ireland, which is an island comprising of both ROI and NI.
In essence, Britain =/= the UK and folk from NI would be (quite rightly) very cheesed off to be referred to as British as it’s both geographically incorrect and very politically/religiously sensitive.
I buy that in colloquial terms, the vast majority of people who say “Britain/British” mean to include NI, but I was feeling quite pedantic and wanted to bring that up.
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I think you're a little confused. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country in its own right. The people within it are British citizens. Of course due to the nature of Northern Ireland, people can choose to hold an Irish passport instead and call themselves Irish but George Best certainly wasn't of that mindset.
You're getting nationality confused with Geographic location. The citizens of the United Kingdom are British. There is no such country as Britain. Great Britain is an island. Perhaps you'd prefer people call themselves United Kingdomers?
posted on 1/10/24
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country in its own right
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I simply refuse to be called Scottish, Irish or Welsh.
We are not the same thanks. I am not from the same country as those scoundrels
posted on 1/10/24
I take back what I said about Giggs and John Charles. I just checked Bales Honours on Wikipedia and he won a League Cup with Spurs in 2008.
And no player has done it since.
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