comment by Franko Cantona
posted 3 minutes ago
What’s worrying is that for the past few years I’ve convinced myself this was all just some temporary malaise that it was certain one day we would wake from and restore ourselves to the top of the game.

However I’ve seen teams around us grow far stronger like Villa, Spurs, Newcastle, Brighton and others before we even consider City, Arsenal, Pool and Chelsea etc and with the amount of money wasted devastation ETH has been allowed to inflict on the club as we sit 13th in the league for the first time I seriously think we may be actually broken beyond resurrection.
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This is the result of ownership and leadership neglecting the very reason behind what made United great: sporting excellence! Such mismanagement should be considered a crime. By squandering the club’s funds on average players through hiring incompetence, they silenced many fans while giving opposition supporters ammunition to defend the Glazers by asking, "Why complain when they're spending on transfers?" What those fans overlooked, perhaps deliberately, was that over a billion pounds was drawn in dividends without any fresh investment, leaving the club burdened with increasing debt. Thankfully, the club’s self-sufficiency and ability to generate significant revenue has kept us afloat. Imagine how our stadium could have improved, how the squad might have evolved, and how we would be playing today under forward-thinking ownership that prioritised football, fans, and the wider community!

Genuine question.

Has any reputable journalist ever linked us to Southgate?

I hope I’m right but any link to him just seems like clickbait fabrication.

Yes please

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
Genuine question.

Has any reputable journalist ever linked us to Southgate?

I hope I’m right but any link to him just seems like clickbait fabrication.
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It could be BS or it could be genuine; we simply can’t be sure, all depends on which side of the fence we're occupying or choosing to occupy. What we do know is that our fall from grace is newsworthy and generating revenue for online news outlets, whether reputable or not.

comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
Genuine question.

Has any reputable journalist ever linked us to Southgate?

I hope I’m right but any link to him just seems like clickbait fabrication.
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It could be BS or it could be genuine; we simply can’t be sure, all depends on which side of the fence we're occupying or choosing to occupy. What we do know is that our fall from grace is newsworthy and generating revenue for online news outlets, whether reputable or not.
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And linking us to Southgate feeds right into that. I can’t see any reason why we would go for him.

comment by The Process
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
Genuine question.

Has any reputable journalist ever linked us to Southgate?

I hope I’m right but any link to him just seems like clickbait fabrication.
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It could be BS or it could be genuine; we simply can’t be sure, all depends on which side of the fence we're occupying or choosing to occupy. What we do know is that our fall from grace is newsworthy and generating revenue for online news outlets, whether reputable or not.
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And linking us to Southgate feeds right into that. I can’t see any reason why we would go for him.
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- Two finals reached
- Consistent tournament qualifications
- Solid yet inspiring playing style
- Good man-management skills

These credentials suggest a candidate possibly ideal for a club in need of stability and structure amid all the chaos. While he doesn't make my long or short list of candidates, it’s possible the sporting leadership are seeking a particular managerial profile to see us through this transitional phase of the new structure. This phase involves a complete overhaul of the squad over 3/4 windows before appointing a first-choice manager who can align with club's ambitions to deliver "Project 150" by 2028, by winning the league. ETH received full support from Berrada in a recent staff meeting; however, this could change depending on future results.

comment by Clockwork Red: KindUgarten Cop (U4892)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
It's crazy in every way, and yet it feels strangely inevitable.
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Putting a different spin on the story, this could be a deliberate message from the leadership to the fanbase: "if we’re forced to sack ETH, the alternative is Southgate. Back him, suffer a little in pursuit of Hagball, it will get better"

Or maybe not, Southgate is inevitable ☹️

i red Allegri is gonna b the new coach

comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
i red Allegri is gonna b the new coach
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He wouldn't be a bad appointment tbf compared to others being linked. At the very least we'd be better organised.

Running out of viable options really. A lot of managers will be out off coming here. It's not good for your mental health.

put*

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
i red Allegri is gonna b the new coach
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He wouldn't be a bad appointment tbf compared to others being linked. At the very least we'd be better organised.

Running out of viable options really. A lot of managers will be out off coming here. It's not good for your mental health.
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Many of the managers who have done best when moving to a big club over the last 3-4 years have been relatively unproven at other big clubs. I think there's something to be said for a manager with bold new ideas and raw talent as opposed to someone who has had some success at a big club in the past. Which is to say we're probably not running out of options, just we as spectators aren't familiar with those names or we don't realise they are serious contenders.

Sir Lord 3 Lions Gareth Safegate would be hands down the funniest greatest managerial appointment of all time in The Premier League. Almost as funny as his hearing everyone of his biggest fans, from the media/pundits down to every Utd Fan that tries to make a case as to why he's worthy of the job.

Arguably the biggest football brand in the world

Gareth Southgate

Please for all that is sacred let it happen. Hopefully our boys will speed up this process on Sunday before the international break.

Hagball or Safegate

The very definition of "be careful what you wish for"

Its probably speaks volumes that opposition fans want Utd to keep ETH and if they were to chose a replacement for you it would be Safegate

If i were United, i'd bid my time and go large next summer!

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 17 minutes ago
Hagball or Safegate

The very definition of "be careful what you wish for"

Its probably speaks volumes that opposition fans want Utd to keep ETH and if they were to chose a replacement for you it would be Safegate
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It probably does. Banter is one thing, but when push comes to shove, opposition fans tend to be honest about what they feel will strengthen or weaken other teams. Doesn't mean they are always right, of course, but it's hard to realistically say at this point that ten Hag will turn it around, or that Southgate would be a stellar replacement.

Surprised Edin Terzic ex Dortmund manager hasn't been snapped up by anyone yet and surely he is a better and more suitable candidate than Southgate???

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 27 minutes ago
If i were United, i'd bid my time and go large next summer!
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For whom though? And then this season would be as bad as the Rangnick one, either with ten Hag as a dead man walking or Ruud as an interim. We're only six games in - who knows how bad it could get in that scenario?

Being a Spurs fans ups and downs are par for the course.

What i often think and what I think some fans lose sight of sometimes is that the next decision, whether transfer or manager, does not necessarily have to be what you will get you to your ultimate goal, it can sometimes be a decision that gets you to the next stage.

IMO United's next stage is not challenging for titles, it's not necessarily being top 4. You have so many issues what you probably need is a period when you have a manager who can come in, work with much of the same squad, bring some stability, some peace, some structure.

Someone like Southgate may not be the dream signing but as someone who seems to have a lot of goodwill with the media, who was loved by the Eng players, an organiser...he could come in a do a job. Get you through this period, get some of these unwanted players moved on, work with the kids, get you back being solid again, even if it isnt glamorous.

Utd may thrive under him but ultimately he could be a stepping stone to hand over a much better club to a man to take you to the next step, which would be looking towards the top.

Also a bit like Spurs, United fans have been very patient. Utd expect to be challenging for the top honours, and its been 10 years+. So patience is thing and fans want instant improvements. I do not think that is possible especially with the issues your squad has and the inability to change it in an instant due to PSR etc

A lot of Spurs fans starting to lose patience with Ange, which has been very unfair, but it comes from a place of being starved of success for so long they want success now, we've waited long enough, so managers and players are afforded little patience or understanding. United fans would need this is someone new like Southgate comes in. Accept that you are working towards something, the next step, and that step isn't challenging because you are miles off that. Allow the time for that to happen, including absorbing a few bumps along the way.

I've long been against Southgate... But his serving of dross could be no worse than Eric's dross, i guess.

We've tried everything else, let's try a boring english manager!

Handing ETH money to spend on drosses when he should have gone, then replace him with another clueless manager, someone will not do a better job if purposefully try to destroy the club.

I personally think Southgate would have a similar effect at Man U to the one Hodgson had at Liverpool and would be rejected by the supporters in the same fashion and sacked within about 6 months so if the Man U heirarchy just want a temporary but calm transition instead of what I suspect would be more fan discent and all round carnage under Southgate they should give Van Nistelroy the reigns and like Devonshire says reassess in the summer.

If they still decide they want a new man in charge by then more will be known about McKenna's credentials for example and his suitability plus a few other far more suitable candidates than Southgate which I'm just gobsmacked he's even under consideration for what is, and even as a Leeds fan I have to admit, still one of world footballs most prestigious and elite club manager's jobs.

Might not be the worst idea, im not a fan of his at all so don't get me wrong. But credit where its due he sorted Englands togetherness out... Maybe he could sort Utds dressing room out too? At the cost of dire football, lack of tactical prowess etc for a few seasons? He'd build a team around Slabhead.

Pretty much everyone reliable is saying there is nothing in this. Won't happen.

Personally, I would discount any article that links us to a manager because "Brailsford/Ratcliffe are big fans" or some nonsense. I would hope that part of what makes Brailsford/Ratcliffe competent is knowing full well that they are not the people at the club who should be having the biggest influence on these decisions.

My prediction - Ruud takes over as interim at some point this season, and someone like Amorim or Hoeneß takes over permanently in the summer.

comment by Macca & The Rhythm Sticks : aka Lucky Chai... (U8194)
posted 14 minutes ago
I personally think Southgate would have a similar effect at Man U to the one Hodgson had at Liverpool and would be rejected by the supporters in the same fashion and sacked within about 6 months so if the Man U heirarchy just want a temporary but calm transition instead of what I suspect would be more fan discent and all round carnage under Southgate they should give Van Nistelroy the reigns and like Devonshire says reassess in the summer.

If they still decide they want a new man in charge by then more will be known about McKenna's credentials for example and his suitability plus a few other far more suitable candidates than Southgate which I'm just gobsmacked he's even under consideration for what is, and even as a Leeds fan I have to admit, still one of world footballs most prestigious and elite club manager's jobs.
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Yeah but then the fans are part of the problem, if you are not prepared to give a manager a fair crack of the whip.


You cannot just point at the glazers or whoever if you are hounding a manager out after no time at all. You did it with Moyes, gave him too few resources, expected change overnight and were disappointed.

I heard a comment on a podcast the other day with one pundit saying he never thought he'd see the day when a Man Utd manager could lose 14 games, come 8th and keep his job.

The reaction to Moyes was because of the recency of your success.

The reaction to whoever comes in next should also reflect where you have been recently. You need someone right for the next step because if you looked at the likes of Alonso or Amorim, they'd still be stepping in to a cauldron of massive expectations, growing frustration and impatience and handed a pretty meh squad of players

comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 14 minutes ago
Genuine question.

Has any reputable journalist ever linked us to Southgate?

I hope I’m right but any link to him just seems like clickbait fabrication.
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It could be BS or it could be genuine; we simply can’t be sure, all depends on which side of the fence we're occupying or choosing to occupy. What we do know is that our fall from grace is newsworthy and generating revenue for online news outlets, whether reputable or not.
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And linking us to Southgate feeds right into that. I can’t see any reason why we would go for him.
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- Two finals reached
- Consistent tournament qualifications
- Solid yet inspiring playing style
- Good man-management skills

These credentials suggest a candidate possibly ideal for a club in need of stability and structure amid all the chaos. While he doesn't make my long or short list of candidates, it’s possible the sporting leadership are seeking a particular managerial profile to see us through this transitional phase of the new structure. This phase involves a complete overhaul of the squad over 3/4 windows before appointing a first-choice manager who can align with club's ambitions to deliver "Project 150" by 2028, by winning the league. ETH received full support from Berrada in a recent staff meeting; however, this could change depending on future results.
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A complete squad overhaul.

How the feck can we need a complete squad overhaul after all the money we have spent?