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posted on 6/10/24

We should give Amad a few starts so that, a few games from now, we can write exactly the same posts about him

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 1 minute ago
We should give Amad a few starts so that, a few games from now, we can write exactly the same posts about him
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He’s been far better than Garnacho overall. The problem is he has to play very well to stay in the team whereas others get back after continuous rubbish.

We haven’t scored in any of Garnacho’s 4 league starts.

posted on 6/10/24

I can’t fathom how he finished the game, was screaming to be subbed from early on

posted on 6/10/24

I've no idea why he keeps mesing around between Garnacho & Amad.

Amad is a better player. The ball sticks to him, he's more creative, a better dribbler and he's a threat. We should be persisting with him whilst Garnacho and Rashford fight it would for the LW role.

I thought Bruno had yet another stinker by the way.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
I've no idea why he keeps mesing around between Garnacho & Amad.

Amad is a better player. The ball sticks to him, he's more creative, a better dribbler and he's a threat. We should be persisting with him whilst Garnacho and Rashford fight it would for the LW role.

I thought Bruno had yet another stinker by the way.
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Yes but Amad has a couple of quiet games and he’s suddenly behind Antony it looks.

The Bruno thing has gone beyond a joke. Sent off 2 games in a row, dreadful all season and still gets picked.

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 6/10/24

He's an almost carbon copy of Hector Bellerin, just a better finish.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 14 minutes ago
I've no idea why he keeps mesing around between Garnacho & Amad.

Amad is a better player. The ball sticks to him, he's more creative, a better dribbler and he's a threat. We should be persisting with him whilst Garnacho and Rashford fight it would for the LW role.

I thought Bruno had yet another stinker by the way.
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Agreed, Amad should be starting but he needs to pull the trigger a little more. Basically he is everything Garnacho isn’t doing and Garnacho does the one thing Amad doesn’t do enough…


Bruno is just a fast scenario at this stage. I don’t know why but I have a feeling that JZ should replace him, I think he needs playtime behind Razzmatazz and Razzmatazz needs playtime with JZ behind him.

Rashford need to supply more and with Amad, I think we could start creating more than we have been for such a long time.

posted on 6/10/24

I saw an interesting opinion a while back, which said that Garnacho tries to play as if he is more physicially explosive than he actually is. As if he's trying to become the next Ronaldo instead of just being Garnacho.

When you watch him with that in mind, i think there's something in it. He just looks a completely different player from the fleet-footed winger who first broke into the team, as if he's tried to completely redefine who he is as a player.

In terms of his output, I actually think he's been a bit unlucky this season. The open goal against Fulham, the disallowed goal against Brighton, the cross bar vs Palace - on another day they all go in. But something has definitely happened in terms of his general game. Hopefully just a dip.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 6/10/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 1 minute ago
We should give Amad a few starts so that, a few games from now, we can write exactly the same posts about him
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He’s been far better than Garnacho overall. The problem is he has to play very well to stay in the team whereas others get back after continuous rubbish.

We haven’t scored in any of Garnacho’s 4 league starts.
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Garnacho looks really good the first few games.

Scored the winner against Fulham, should’ve had a second.

Should’ve scored a goal vs Brighton but for Zirkzee.

He hit the woodwork against Spurs and Palace.

He’s young, inconsistency is to be expected, but we aren’t playing to his strengths and we’re expecting a 19/20 year old to be our star attacker in a system nobody appears comfortable with.

Amad has also had games he’s been quiet.

I’d rather judge the likes of Bruno, Casemiro, Ugarte, Dalot, De Ligt, Martinez, Mount, Antony, you know, the experienced professionals who are supposed to be the leaders in this team.

Young talents like Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad almost get free passes when the team cannot function for me. I’m sure they’d all look a lot better in sides who have set systems.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 6/10/24

“ Basically he is everything Garnacho isn’t doing and Garnacho does the one thing Amad doesn’t do enough…”

Amad is far better technically, however he’s far less of a direct threat, he doesn’t get in behind, he doesn’t have the individual ability to get a shot off Garnacho has.

That’s just on the ball, off it, Garnacho is our hardest working winger and he supports the full back far better.

In another set of games Garnacho scores against Palace, Brighton and Spurs and he’s the shining light in a poor side.

Football fans are fickle though.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 6/10/24

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
I saw an interesting opinion a while back, which said that Garnacho tries to play as if he is more physicially explosive than he actually is. As if he's trying to become the next Ronaldo instead of just being Garnacho.

When you watch him with that in mind, i think there's something in it. He just looks a completely different player from the fleet-footed winger who first broke into the team, as if he's tried to completely redefine who he is as a player.

In terms of his output, I actually think he's been a bit unlucky this season. The open goal against Fulham, the disallowed goal against Brighton, the cross bar vs Palace - on another day they all go in. But something has definitely happened in terms of his general game. Hopefully just a dip.
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Good post. Maybe it’s his coaching?

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 1 minute ago
We should give Amad a few starts so that, a few games from now, we can write exactly the same posts about him
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He’s been far better than Garnacho overall. The problem is he has to play very well to stay in the team whereas others get back after continuous rubbish.

We haven’t scored in any of Garnacho’s 4 league starts.
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Garnacho looks really good the first few games.

Scored the winner against Fulham, should’ve had a second.

Should’ve scored a goal vs Brighton but for Zirkzee.

He hit the woodwork against Spurs and Palace.

He’s young, inconsistency is to be expected, but we aren’t playing to his strengths and we’re expecting a 19/20 year old to be our star attacker in a system nobody appears comfortable with.

Amad has also had games he’s been quiet.

I’d rather judge the likes of Bruno, Casemiro, Ugarte, Dalot, De Ligt, Martinez, Mount, Antony, you know, the experienced professionals who are supposed to be the leaders in this team.

Young talents like Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad almost get free passes when the team cannot function for me. I’m sure they’d all look a lot better in sides who have set systems.
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But you’ve mentioned moments that were a small part of mainly very poor displays.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
He's an almost carbon copy of Hector Bellerin, just a better finish.
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Sorry, what. Who is?

posted on 6/10/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
I've no idea why he keeps mesing around between Garnacho & Amad.

Amad is a better player. The ball sticks to him, he's more creative, a better dribbler and he's a threat. We should be persisting with him whilst Garnacho and Rashford fight it would for the LW role.

I thought Bruno had yet another stinker by the way.
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Yes but Amad has a couple of quiet games and he’s suddenly behind Antony it looks.

The Bruno thing has gone beyond a joke. Sent off 2 games in a row, dreadful all season and still gets picked.
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Even in a quiet game, Amad creates scoring chances and doesn’t give the ball away.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 6/10/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 1 minute ago
We should give Amad a few starts so that, a few games from now, we can write exactly the same posts about him
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He’s been far better than Garnacho overall. The problem is he has to play very well to stay in the team whereas others get back after continuous rubbish.

We haven’t scored in any of Garnacho’s 4 league starts.
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Garnacho looks really good the first few games.

Scored the winner against Fulham, should’ve had a second.

Should’ve scored a goal vs Brighton but for Zirkzee.

He hit the woodwork against Spurs and Palace.

He’s young, inconsistency is to be expected, but we aren’t playing to his strengths and we’re expecting a 19/20 year old to be our star attacker in a system nobody appears comfortable with.

Amad has also had games he’s been quiet.

I’d rather judge the likes of Bruno, Casemiro, Ugarte, Dalot, De Ligt, Martinez, Mount, Antony, you know, the experienced professionals who are supposed to be the leaders in this team.

Young talents like Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad almost get free passes when the team cannot function for me. I’m sure they’d all look a lot better in sides who have set systems.
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But you’ve mentioned moments that were a small part of mainly very poor displays.
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Yes but you can say that about a lot of wingers, even world class ones.

posted on 6/10/24

Don't think Garnacho is a bad player but he will never be a great one. Similar to Rashford in a way. They can be a scary good at times and also scary bad.

We don't really have any 'great' players though anymore. We've got a few good ones, quite a lot that are just average and then a few who just aren't good enough. It's a poor squad that's nowhere near the level it should be given what it cost to assemble.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
Don't think Garnacho is a bad player but he will never be a great one. Similar to Rashford in a way. They can be a scary good at times and also scary bad.

We don't really have any 'great' players though anymore. We've got a few good ones, quite a lot that are just average and then a few who just aren't good enough. It's a poor squad that's nowhere near the level it should be given what it cost to assemble.
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He’s certainly not a bad player but yes I agree there is lots of similarities with Rashford.

Playing both simply does not work or at least it rarely does but Rashford is the better player currently so Garnacho should be a sub.

posted on 6/10/24

I'd probably go with Rashford and Amad right now too.....but it's really not going to change anything. We will still have an incompetent manager whose ideas just aren't working no matter what he does.

We need a new manager with new ideas and tactics. It's been abundantly clear for a while now. The only reason why I think he might end up staying as we can't afford to sack him or nobody who is any good wants the job.

posted on 6/10/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 1 minute ago
We should give Amad a few starts so that, a few games from now, we can write exactly the same posts about him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He’s been far better than Garnacho overall. The problem is he has to play very well to stay in the team whereas others get back after continuous rubbish.

We haven’t scored in any of Garnacho’s 4 league starts.
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Garnacho looks really good the first few games.

Scored the winner against Fulham, should’ve had a second.

Should’ve scored a goal vs Brighton but for Zirkzee.

He hit the woodwork against Spurs and Palace.

He’s young, inconsistency is to be expected, but we aren’t playing to his strengths and we’re expecting a 19/20 year old to be our star attacker in a system nobody appears comfortable with.

Amad has also had games he’s been quiet.

I’d rather judge the likes of Bruno, Casemiro, Ugarte, Dalot, De Ligt, Martinez, Mount, Antony, you know, the experienced professionals who are supposed to be the leaders in this team.

Young talents like Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad almost get free passes when the team cannot function for me. I’m sure they’d all look a lot better in sides who have set systems.
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But you’ve mentioned moments that were a small part of mainly very poor displays.
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My greatest pet pieve. It's like using highlights to decide performance. It's the specialty of robb.

posted on 7/10/24

Good player that would be better if he stayed on his feet more.

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