Great article apart from it wasn't identical as covering defender was much much closer so clearly not a red but other than that great article

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
Great article apart from it wasn't identical as covering defender was much much closer so clearly not a red but other than that great article
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He was still behind Jota and we know if Jota gets on a run he is direct so is going to goal

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
Great article apart from it wasn't identical as covering defender was much much closer so clearly not a red but other than that great article
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My issue is not with if he was last man or not but with the fact that VAR didn’t appear to look at it

comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
Great article apart from it wasn't identical as covering defender was much much closer so clearly not a red but other than that great article
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He was still behind Jota and we know if Jota gets on a run he is direct so is going to goal
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Yes he was but I think it wasn't enough distance to say he's denied a goalscoring opportunity

Also haven't seen the goalkeeper position because yesterday the keeper was running away from the ball

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Great article apart from it wasn't identical as covering defender was much much closer so clearly not a red but other than that great article
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nah it was a red he was clearly last man, the chelsea guy was 5 yards behind salah and 3 yards behind chelsea last man who rugby tackled him.

Joke inconsistency imo.

Colwill was across and good chance he’d get back to make the tackle, yellow correct decision.

Saliba yesterday was a clear red.

Identical apart from the fact there were several Chelsea defenders between Jota and the goal.

If not fouled, Jota has a clear and direct run at goal. Colwill is behind and we cannot take into account things like pace of the players. Contrary to what the refs voice-piece Dean said, the ball was not heading wide, it was directly in front of Jota. There were mitigating factors that mean a yellow is justifiable as would a red - same with Saliba.

But, for me, the big issue with the Saliba red was the ref gave a yellow and the stance of the PGMOL is that refs call is "critical", and VAR should not intervene as the bar is set high for interventions. They did not apply that yesterday. Webb has preached numerous times this season that VAR won't re-ref games but that went out the window for an objective call.

With regards to Ben White / Saliba yesterday...

Seems like everyone is forgetting how much quicker a player runs without the ball and that the trajectory of the ball was actually curving towards White...

https://imgur.com/a/cH1sW8C i assume hes on about this? clearly last man should be a sending off.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
If not fouled, Jota has a clear and direct run at goal. Colwill is behind and we cannot take into account things like pace of the players. Contrary to what the refs voice-piece Dean said, the ball was not heading wide, it was directly in front of Jota. There were mitigating factors that mean a yellow is justifiable as would a red - same with Saliba.

But, for me, the big issue with the Saliba red was the ref gave a yellow and the stance of the PGMOL is that refs call is "critical", and VAR should not intervene as the bar is set high for interventions. They did not apply that yesterday. Webb has preached numerous times this season that VAR won't re-ref games but that went out the window for an objective call.


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Nah, there were no mitigating factors on the Saliba one.

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
If not fouled, Jota has a clear and direct run at goal. Colwill is behind and we cannot take into account things like pace of the players. Contrary to what the refs voice-piece Dean said, the ball was not heading wide, it was directly in front of Jota. There were mitigating factors that mean a yellow is justifiable as would a red - same with Saliba.

But, for me, the big issue with the Saliba red was the ref gave a yellow and the stance of the PGMOL is that refs call is "critical", and VAR should not intervene as the bar is set high for interventions. They did not apply that yesterday. Webb has preached numerous times this season that VAR won't re-ref games but that went out the window for an objective call.


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Nah, there were no mitigating factors on the Saliba one.
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Distance towards goal is a mitigating factor. It's actually in the rules.

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
If not fouled, Jota has a clear and direct run at goal. Colwill is behind and we cannot take into account things like pace of the players. Contrary to what the refs voice-piece Dean said, the ball was not heading wide, it was directly in front of Jota. There were mitigating factors that mean a yellow is justifiable as would a red - same with Saliba.

But, for me, the big issue with the Saliba red was the ref gave a yellow and the stance of the PGMOL is that refs call is "critical", and VAR should not intervene as the bar is set high for interventions. They did not apply that yesterday. Webb has preached numerous times this season that VAR won't re-ref games but that went out the window for an objective call.


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Nah, there were no mitigating factors on the Saliba one.
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Of course there were, hence the ref giving a yellow. Distance, White had a great chance of getting to the ball first, the striker was not in control. Very similar has often seen a yellow.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
Identical apart from the fact there were several Chelsea defenders between Jota and the goal.
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https://imgur.com/a/cH1sW8C

several defenders theres 2 defenders behind jota by a yard and 5 yards. one fouls him.

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
Identical apart from the fact there were several Chelsea defenders between Jota and the goal.
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https://imgur.com/a/cH1sW8C

several defenderstheres 2 defenders behind jota by a yard and 5 yards. one fouls him.
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Some people just lie. Neo and Boris absolutely clueless, did either of them see the incidents they are talking about?

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 5 minutes ago
https://imgur.com/a/cH1sW8C i assume hes on about this? clearly last man should be a sending off.
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Jota scores if not fouled. Should have been a red.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
Identical apart from the fact there were several Chelsea defenders between Jota and the goal.
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https://imgur.com/a/cH1sW8C

several defenderstheres 2 defenders behind jota by a yard and 5 yards. one fouls him.
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Some people just lie. Neo and Boris absolutely clueless, did either of them see the incidents they are talking about?
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u dont get much more last man than that hes literally the last defender

comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
Identical apart from the fact there were several Chelsea defenders between Jota and the goal.
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https://imgur.com/a/cH1sW8C

several defenderstheres 2 defenders behind jota by a yard and 5 yards. one fouls him.
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Honestly this is why the standard will never get any better- rather than admitting inconsistencies people would rather score points against other teams.

I'd have loved Liverpool to drop points today, but i don't see how one is a red and one isn't. Sure, the Chelsea defender was closer than White was, but from the position he was in he was equally ineffective in being able to cover.

There’s a conspiracy against arteta afoot. He’s such a whining twaaat the FA have got fed up of him and his cheaty tactics and have instructed the refs to fack arsenal over.

We'll get done over now we look to be city's main rivals

City own the refs

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 seconds ago
We'll get done over now we look to be city's main rivals

City own the refs
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Changed your tune a lot in half an hour

Meant to switch accounts?

comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 seconds ago
We'll get done over now we look to be city's main rivals

City own the refs
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Changed your tune a lot in half an hour

Meant to switch accounts?
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Not really

City seem to be the only team that gets all the debatable decisions go there way. Yesterday was a red but VAR shouldn't have overturned the original decision. Just like Raya pen when he clears the defender out today wasn't a clear and obvious error for me to be overturned

comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 seconds ago
We'll get done over now we look to be city's main rivals

City own the refs
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Changed your tune a lot in half an hour

Meant to switch accounts?
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Not really

City seem to be the only team that gets all the debatable decisions go there way. Yesterday was a red but VAR shouldn't have overturned the original decision. Just like Raya pen when he clears the defender out today wasn't a clear and obvious error for me to be overturned
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Sorry meant Sanchez pen

He wasn't playing for Arsenal
That is your explanation

There is a conspiracy against Arsenal
Yet more evidence yesterday to add to the BS sendings off if Rice and Trossard.
FACT

I imagine the more we talk about a conspiracy the more bias does creep in whether conscious or not