We just have to make sure we're the new Leicester.

kin el....

impossible to compare... we're in October, a few coincidences and we've got Farkness dancing round a cauldron...

do me a favour

I was thinking same thing last night, but this type of luck, never lasts.

We will walk the league

Yeah was calling them that a couple of weeks back. Leeds, Burnley and Sheff Utd are the heavily fancied 3, woth Sunderland turning up as a special guest. They got a lot of luck v us, Hull and were second best last night but won.

As the above said, we need to be the new Leicester, not coming 4th in a 3 horse race or 3rd in a 2.

Did Ipswich really have alot of Luck, or did they just play well alot of the time 🤷🏻‍♂️

Burnley and Sheffield wont finish top two. Mayve not even play offs

For me the goal was rightly ruled offside.

But other than that they are definitely benefiting from a fair chunk of good luck at the moment. Very rarely continues through a full season and these things even themselves out. We have been on the opposite end of luck and I expect that to change too. Although I did think Ipswich would run out of luck last season and that didn't seem to happen.

Don't think it matters this season though, I don't think either Burnley or Sheff Utd will finish above us anyway. Last season we had 2 sides in Leicester and Southampton more than competing with us as well as Ipswich. I just don't see the same level of threat at all this season.

92 points could see us win the league by 10 points whereas last season we would still have finished third.

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 1 minute ago
Did Ipswich really have alot of Luck, or did they just play well alot of the time 🤷🏻‍♂️

Burnley and Sheffield wont finish top two. Mayve not even play offs
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They definitely had a lot of luck in that run in, mostly with deflections.

Maybe they earned it by playing well, but they had a lot of luck.

Isn't it much more a case of us being the Anti-Ipswich rather than Sunderland being the New Ipswich, last season what ever it took they found a way to win, this season what ever takes we're finding a way to balls it up.
Game 1, cruising it and Meslier lets in a couple of goals any schoolboy keeper should make.
WBA, Farke plays so negatively in a game we could have won easily.
Sheffield Wed, Hull, Coventry we win but how our goal difference isn't out of sight is anyone's guess.
Burnley, the Solomon slip up
On and on to Meslier jumping out of the way of the ball against Norwich and the Sunderland debacle.
Add in all the injuries to key personnel, no we're doing to hand it to them on a plate at the moment.

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 26 minutes ago

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 1 minute ago
Did Ipswich really have alot of Luck, or did they just play well alot of the time 🤷🏻‍♂️

Burnley and Sheffield wont finish top two. Mayve not even play offs
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They definitely had a lot of luck in that run in, mostly with deflections.

Maybe they earned it by playing well, but they had a lot of luck.

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at the end of the season the league table does lie... you can't finish 2nd in the league and not deserve it.

fully appreciate we bottled it, but not luck on their part they still have to win the games - otherwise we'd have gotten away with it.

doesn't lie I mean, sorry

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 26 minutes ago

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Undefeated (U8453)
posted 1 minute ago
Did Ipswich really have alot of Luck, or did they just play well alot of the time 🤷🏻‍♂️

Burnley and Sheffield wont finish top two. Mayve not even play offs
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They definitely had a lot of luck in that run in, mostly with deflections.

Maybe they earned it by playing well, but they had a lot of luck.

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at the end of the season the league table does lie... you can't finish 2nd in the league and not deserve it.

fully appreciate we bottled it, but not luck on their part they still have to win the games - otherwise we'd have gotten away with it.
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Whilst I do believe you finish roughly where you deserve to be, there are far too many variables in a season, to say sometimes the table does lie.

comment by Dennis. (U23086)
posted 14 minutes ago
Isn't it much more a case of us being the Anti-Ipswich rather than Sunderland being the New Ipswich, last season what ever it took they found a way to win, this season what ever takes we're finding a way to balls it up.
Game 1, cruising it and Meslier lets in a couple of goals any schoolboy keeper should make.
WBA, Farke plays so negatively in a game we could have won easily.
Sheffield Wed, Hull, Coventry we win but how our goal difference isn't out of sight is anyone's guess.
Burnley, the Solomon slip up
On and on to Meslier jumping out of the way of the ball against Norwich and the Sunderland debacle.
Add in all the injuries to key personnel, no we're doing to hand it to them on a plate at the moment.
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We are in a miles better position than last season.


And whats all these injuries to key players about 🤷🏻‍♂️


We have maybe one who would be a starter

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 4 minutes ago
doesn't lie I mean, sorry
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Don't buy this. The vast majority of the time it's true. Just based on laws of probability. A 46 game season is going to even out most decisions and moments. That's why I am very confident we will win the league this season despite us underachieving points wise so far.

But every now and again a side will just have the vast majority of 50/50 moments go their way throughout the whole season and finish higher than they deserve. It obviously has to happen on rare occasions. Despite it being a heavily used cliche, it is impossible that the league table has never lied.

However I don't begrudge Ipswich getting promoted at all, they did deserve it. Had we not bottled it and Ipswich nicked it on goal difference I would feel different, but we were awful at the end of the season.

Maybe Farke has got lucky. The injuries to Ampadu and Gruev have given an opportunity to Tanaka and Rothwell, and to my mind we've looked a more balanced and steady footballing side - performance against Sheffield United was the best seen in this division so far this season.

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 15 minutes ago

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 4 minutes ago
doesn't lie I mean, sorry
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Don't buy this. The vast majority of the time it's true. Just based on laws of probability. A 46 game season is going to even out most decisions and moments. That's why I am very confident we will win the league this season despite us underachieving points wise so far.

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I'm saying tables don;t lie at the end of the season faith.. is that what you mean too?.. I missed a word out in first post which may have led to the confusion

Ipswich for me deserved second place, I agree... not sure what you don;t buy mate?

Whilst I do believe you finish roughly where you deserve to be, there are far too many variables in a season, to say sometimes the table does lie.

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not over 46 games and what 9 months mate I don't think..

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 6 minutes ago
Whilst I do believe you finish roughly where you deserve to be, there are far too many variables in a season, to say sometimes the table does lie.

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not over 46 games and what 9 months mate I don't think..
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But it does.


Anyone who played us in first six games, had a huge advantage over anyone who played us later.

Or what about when a team plays a team ravaged with injuries, whilst a rival plays them at full strenght later.

Or someone scores a worldy against you but is dogsh8te against your rivals.

Or a ref makes a huge mistake, in a game.

You play against a team that has new manager bounce whilet rival plays same club but have lost 10 games on bounce and club is in turmoil.

Were humans, not robots, every minute of every game is slightly different.

It doesnt take much for a six points swing if these variables go for and against you.

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 15 minutes ago
Whilst I do believe you finish roughly where you deserve to be, there are far too many variables in a season, to say sometimes the table does lie.

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not over 46 games and what 9 months mate I don't think..
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So in the history of football across the world no side has ever finished in a league position that they didn’t deserve? Fortune has never had an impact on the league position of any club?

oh yeah there are countless things like that...

but I do think it averages out in the end.. its a long season, any team could point to a game where they dropped say two points and say 'had we won that we'd have been champions, or whatever.

Pool fans still crying they got over a hundred points that season and City were lucky in this game that game', no City just deserved it in the end

comment by HaveFaithInLeeds (U8688)
posted 1 minute ago

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 15 minutes ago
Whilst I do believe you finish roughly where you deserve to be, there are far too many variables in a season, to say sometimes the table does lie.

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not over 46 games and what 9 months mate I don't think..
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So in the history of football across the world no side has ever finished in a league position that they didn’t deserve? Fortune has never had an impact on the league position of any club?

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I'm sure you dig something up somewhere mate, be my guest

am just saying over 46 games, 99.9 % of the time, you finish where you deserve

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 43 seconds ago
oh yeah there are countless things like that...

but I do think it averages out in the end.. its a long season, any team could point to a game where they dropped say two points and say 'had we won that we'd have been champions, or whatever.

Pool fans still crying they got over a hundred points that season and City were lucky in this game that game', no City just deserved it in the end
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The vast majority of seasons for the vast majority of clubs this is definitely the case. There has to be exceptions though, just impossible for their not to be given the number of teams and number of seasons played.

The vast majority of seasons for the vast majority of clubs this is definitely the case. There has to be exceptions though, just impossible for their not to be given the number of teams and number of seasons played.

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yeah faith thats what I said... I'm not sure I'm understanding your point?

Unfairness is more commmon at the other end of the table for relegation where clubs don’t win many points. The variables have a bigger impact down there and I would say it’s not that irregular someone survives that doesn’t deserve to.

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 2 minutes ago

The vast majority of seasons for the vast majority of clubs this is definitely the case. There has to be exceptions though, just impossible for their not to be given the number of teams and number of seasons played.

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yeah faith thats what I said... I'm not sure I'm understanding your point?
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The point is Man Utd didn’t deserve any of their titles alright! Fergie got lucky and that’s all he had.