posted 17 hours, 9 minutes ago
I didn’t answer your question, Diafol, sorry.
I think the answer is that United aren’t going to play a much more disciplined game, with or without Bruno, until Ineos have done much more work reshaping the squad.
We’re going to continue to see football focussed primarily on the attacking transition, and secondarily (and increasingly) on territorial control via press and counterpress (or, if you like, second and fourth phase football).
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
posted 16 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Ross. How would you line up with Bruno in the side in order to get the best out of him and also the best out of the team overall?
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I think that depends who we’re playing and how we want to set up, but generally speaking, I wouldn’t be playing him much deeper than ETH is.
I want to see a run of games with Bruno and Hojlund together to try to build their understanding, and I’d like to see a bit more of Amad with Rashford and Garnacho rotating in and out (unless one of them hits a real streak of form).
We’re still suffering from gaps in the squad and a degree of unfamiliarity. Left back has completely facked us so far this season, as facking predicted, defensively, in build up play (hugely) and in the attacking transition. We haven’t had a steady CB partnership. We haven’t seen wingers able to build strong relationships with their fullbacks. We haven’t been able to benefit from Shaw or Dalot inverting (with Dalot at LB). The list goes on.
All can be read as excuses or reasons as people choose to read them, but bottom line, we have signings to make, we have relationships to build within the squad, we have fitness and conditioning work to do, and we have tactical work to do.
The problem isn’t really individual players at the moment. It’s this squad being able to become one capable of delivering the kind of football that ETH and ultimately INEOS want to see.
posted 16 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Two clear goals imo.
Ugarte will improve our midfield.
Rasmus our attack.
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Don’t forget that Bruno will be back giving the ball away nine times out of ten.
posted 16 hours, 43 minutes ago
Fair enough Rosso.
Apart from that though all is going swimmingly then!
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
posted 16 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
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Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
posted 16 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
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Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
posted 16 hours, 16 minutes ago
I think it's a tad harsh to judge any individual at United at present due to how we are overall.
What I would like to see more of from Zirkzee though is intent. It could well be his style but he does look quite lazy and disinterested at times. When a player isn't at their best then they need to make up for it in effort IMO. When Hojlund struggled last season, for example, he was always seemingly putting the effort in even if it's a challenge here and there.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
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Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
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The better comment would be, why the f@ck is he comparing Bruno with Zirkzee. They have two completely different positions and roles in the team.
posted 15 hours, 55 minutes ago
Which West Ham will turn up, and what type of poor lineup will Baldie throw out onto the pitch? It's a pure crapshoot.
posted 15 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
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The better comment would be, why the f@ck is he comparing Bruno with Zirkzee. They have two completely different positions and roles in the team.
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Because I believe that we had a chance yesterday to try Zirkzee as number 10 with Hojlund as striker. But our manager, for some mysterious reason, preferred to try a fullback. And because I think that we have written off Zirkzee too quickly.
posted 14 hours, 25 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
posted 14 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
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The better comment would be, why the f@ck is he comparing Bruno with Zirkzee. They have two completely different positions and roles in the team.
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Because I believe that we had a chance yesterday to try Zirkzee as number 10 with Hojlund as striker. But our manager, for some mysterious reason, preferred to try a fullback. And because I think that we have written off Zirkzee too quickly.
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Has anyone written Zirkzee off? He’s been been pretty inconsistent and distinctly average on balance, and he was abominable last night; but he’s a young lad in a new league who has played a handful of games.
Very lacklustre start, but writing any player off before they’ve had 20 plus games is plain daft.
posted 14 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
posted 13 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
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Rosso, you’re a clever poster with a good reading of the game. You can’t fail to see that even when he produces an assist or a goal, a player who gives the ball away more than 30 times in a single game (over 600 times last season) can’t have an overall positive influence on the game or on his other teammates. Not a single player thrived while playing next to Bruno in midfield. Actually, they all look exhausted, even a young and player like Mainoo. In the same sense that a player like Carrick, who didn’t have great statistics, in terms of goals and assists, had an overall positive influence on the game and on those played with him.
posted 13 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
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I’ve no doubt he will but the pros have not outweighed the cons consistently for quite a while with him.
posted 13 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
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I’ve no doubt he will but the pros have not outweighed the cons consistently for quite a while with him.
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Exactly my point. See my reply to Rosso above.
posted 13 hours, 40 minutes ago
It’s the constant wrong decisions and misplacing easy passes that drives me mad.
posted 12 hours, 55 minutes ago
The misplacing passes, which often (obviously not nearly always) happens because he’s trying something, of course, is enough to drive anyone crazy. I get that.
But we’ll have to agree to disagree on the cons outweighing the pros. He’s still our best creator, he’s one of our best strikers of the ball, he’s the best presser in the side bar Mount (which is going to be more and more important this season and going forward), he’s one of our hardest working players, and despite where his stationed, he’s often our most important midfield in terms of defensive output, even outside the final third.
Like Rangnick and Ole before him, I think ETH recognises him as our most important player, certainly offensively, I don’t think he’s going anywhere anytime soon. I think people also need to understand that we aren’t going to become a possession first side any time soon, or that will necessarily become the case under INEOS.
posted 12 hours, 50 minutes ago
It isn’t just when he’s trying something though, he gets so many easy and obvious passes wrong.
posted 11 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
It isn’t just when he’s trying something though, he gets so many easy and obvious passes wrong.
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That’s why I said obviously not nearly always.
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posted 17 hours, 9 minutes ago
I didn’t answer your question, Diafol, sorry.
I think the answer is that United aren’t going to play a much more disciplined game, with or without Bruno, until Ineos have done much more work reshaping the squad.
We’re going to continue to see football focussed primarily on the attacking transition, and secondarily (and increasingly) on territorial control via press and counterpress (or, if you like, second and fourth phase football).
posted 17 hours ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
posted 16 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 1 minute ago
Ross. How would you line up with Bruno in the side in order to get the best out of him and also the best out of the team overall?
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I think that depends who we’re playing and how we want to set up, but generally speaking, I wouldn’t be playing him much deeper than ETH is.
I want to see a run of games with Bruno and Hojlund together to try to build their understanding, and I’d like to see a bit more of Amad with Rashford and Garnacho rotating in and out (unless one of them hits a real streak of form).
We’re still suffering from gaps in the squad and a degree of unfamiliarity. Left back has completely facked us so far this season, as facking predicted, defensively, in build up play (hugely) and in the attacking transition. We haven’t had a steady CB partnership. We haven’t seen wingers able to build strong relationships with their fullbacks. We haven’t been able to benefit from Shaw or Dalot inverting (with Dalot at LB). The list goes on.
All can be read as excuses or reasons as people choose to read them, but bottom line, we have signings to make, we have relationships to build within the squad, we have fitness and conditioning work to do, and we have tactical work to do.
The problem isn’t really individual players at the moment. It’s this squad being able to become one capable of delivering the kind of football that ETH and ultimately INEOS want to see.
posted 16 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Two clear goals imo.
Ugarte will improve our midfield.
Rasmus our attack.
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Don’t forget that Bruno will be back giving the ball away nine times out of ten.
posted 16 hours, 43 minutes ago
Fair enough Rosso.
Apart from that though all is going swimmingly then!
posted 16 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
posted 16 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
posted 16 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
posted 16 hours, 16 minutes ago
I think it's a tad harsh to judge any individual at United at present due to how we are overall.
What I would like to see more of from Zirkzee though is intent. It could well be his style but he does look quite lazy and disinterested at times. When a player isn't at their best then they need to make up for it in effort IMO. When Hojlund struggled last season, for example, he was always seemingly putting the effort in even if it's a challenge here and there.
posted 16 hours ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
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Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
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The better comment would be, why the f@ck is he comparing Bruno with Zirkzee. They have two completely different positions and roles in the team.
posted 15 hours, 55 minutes ago
Which West Ham will turn up, and what type of poor lineup will Baldie throw out onto the pitch? It's a pure crapshoot.
posted 15 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
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So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
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Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
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The better comment would be, why the f@ck is he comparing Bruno with Zirkzee. They have two completely different positions and roles in the team.
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Because I believe that we had a chance yesterday to try Zirkzee as number 10 with Hojlund as striker. But our manager, for some mysterious reason, preferred to try a fullback. And because I think that we have written off Zirkzee too quickly.
posted 14 hours, 25 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
posted 14 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Cesario (U22905)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 15 minutes ago
I'd rather have Bruno playing on one leg than Zirkzee in the team and Bruno isn't even playing that well for us currently.
If Zirkzee was throwing stones at the floor, he'd miss.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So didn’t notice that on the two occasions Bruno was sent off, we started controlling the game better, we even scored with ten men. Having Bruno in your team (in his present form) is like playing against a team of 12 players, one of them wearing your shirt and occupying all the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Zirkzee has scored 1 goal in 11 games and looks like an overweight lump playing in a pub league.
Bruno Fernandes is miles better than he will ever be. That's just a fact my friend. And Bruno isn't in the best form you're right. Zirkzee will never ever hit any kind of form in this league as he's just not good enough. A 1 in 4 strike rate in Serie A isn't the standard we should be recruiting. Ethan Wheatley has more in his locker than Zirkzee does.
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I see Zirkzee is your new Antony
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The better comment would be, why the f@ck is he comparing Bruno with Zirkzee. They have two completely different positions and roles in the team.
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Because I believe that we had a chance yesterday to try Zirkzee as number 10 with Hojlund as striker. But our manager, for some mysterious reason, preferred to try a fullback. And because I think that we have written off Zirkzee too quickly.
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Has anyone written Zirkzee off? He’s been been pretty inconsistent and distinctly average on balance, and he was abominable last night; but he’s a young lad in a new league who has played a handful of games.
Very lacklustre start, but writing any player off before they’ve had 20 plus games is plain daft.
posted 14 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
posted 13 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
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Rosso, you’re a clever poster with a good reading of the game. You can’t fail to see that even when he produces an assist or a goal, a player who gives the ball away more than 30 times in a single game (over 600 times last season) can’t have an overall positive influence on the game or on his other teammates. Not a single player thrived while playing next to Bruno in midfield. Actually, they all look exhausted, even a young and player like Mainoo. In the same sense that a player like Carrick, who didn’t have great statistics, in terms of goals and assists, had an overall positive influence on the game and on those played with him.
posted 13 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
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I’ve no doubt he will but the pros have not outweighed the cons consistently for quite a while with him.
posted 13 hours, 44 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bruno isn't top 3 in our chances created this season.
He's no longer a necessity when playing this way.
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Well he’s also leading us in assists and is third in xA.
Anyone who thinks he won’t be leading us in chance creation, as he has done every season since he joined, by the end of the season is probably kidding themselves.
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I’ve no doubt he will but the pros have not outweighed the cons consistently for quite a while with him.
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Exactly my point. See my reply to Rosso above.
posted 13 hours, 40 minutes ago
It’s the constant wrong decisions and misplacing easy passes that drives me mad.
posted 12 hours, 55 minutes ago
The misplacing passes, which often (obviously not nearly always) happens because he’s trying something, of course, is enough to drive anyone crazy. I get that.
But we’ll have to agree to disagree on the cons outweighing the pros. He’s still our best creator, he’s one of our best strikers of the ball, he’s the best presser in the side bar Mount (which is going to be more and more important this season and going forward), he’s one of our hardest working players, and despite where his stationed, he’s often our most important midfield in terms of defensive output, even outside the final third.
Like Rangnick and Ole before him, I think ETH recognises him as our most important player, certainly offensively, I don’t think he’s going anywhere anytime soon. I think people also need to understand that we aren’t going to become a possession first side any time soon, or that will necessarily become the case under INEOS.
posted 12 hours, 50 minutes ago
It isn’t just when he’s trying something though, he gets so many easy and obvious passes wrong.
posted 11 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
It isn’t just when he’s trying something though, he gets so many easy and obvious passes wrong.
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That’s why I said obviously not nearly always.
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