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posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

I wouldn’t say everyone wants him from what I’ve seen or heard. Seems like a lot of people can admit they don’t really know enough about him to say they ‘don’t’ want him.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

What we need is someone with a modern tactical approach, but also someone who has passion and can inspire the players.

Ten Hag lacked the latter, but seems Amorim possesses both.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

I was keen on the Amorim link. Quite disappointed that it won't come to pass now.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 15 minutes ago
I was keen on the Amorim link. Quite disappointed that it won't come to pass now.
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Luckily for all of us my predictions have been going great guns recently 😎

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 29 minutes ago
I was keen on the Amorim link. Quite disappointed that it won't come to pass now.
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My first reaction was "Has it collapsed?". Then I saw you were replying to Robb and all is good again.

In fairness to Robb he did predict the Ten Hag sacking...

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

If it happens, then for me Amorim is a good choice, because he fits the bill of an up and coming manager who could go on to bigger and better things.

For similar reasons, I thought ETH was a good choice, because we needed to see if he could make the step up. Whilst ETH didn't ultimately do it for us, he could still be successful at another big club, because the Utd job is a massive one in which very few will succeed.

Going to the past, that's why I had no issues with Moyes, even though he didn't turn out to be successful, although I think the next one after SAF was always going to be tough. I thought both LVG and Jose were past their best when we got them, Ole was an emotional choice at a time when the club felt very low and Ralf looked good in theory but it was a disaster in practice.

I think it shows how tough being Utd manager is, as it is for any big club, and getting the right guy in is difficult. But it helps if you decide on someone who fits the criteria of someone who could be successful at the highest level, and hopefully it turns out to be the right person.

But of course we won't know until he's in the job.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

What I want to see from the new boss is:

Positivity - make us all believe he believes he deserves to be there.

Aiming High - state that you want to win. Don't give the players an excuse to fail.

Some personality and fire - make United an awkward team to play and also make us an awkward team to ref. We've been far too passive for too long now IMO. We can't always be good but we can always be disruptive with effort and intensity.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

I wouldn’t have been able to name the Sporting manager if you’d asked me 24hrs ago, so I’ve no opinion either way other than relief that it isn’t Southgate (which isn’t an endorsement of Amorim).

I’ve hear sporting have so tidy players, so if he could do a Mourinho to Chelsea version 1 and bring those talents with him that’d be good.

I feel sorry for any manager inheriting Antony and Circuszee.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 3 minutes ago
I wouldn’t have been able to name the Sporting manager if you’d asked me 24hrs ago, so I’ve no opinion either way other than relief that it isn’t Southgate (which isn’t an endorsement of Amorim).

I’ve hear sporting have so tidy players, so if he could do a Mourinho to Chelsea version 1 and bring those talents with him that’d be good.

I feel sorry for any manager inheriting Antony and Circuszee.
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Is he going to get any money to spend though? Or is that going to be dependent on clearing the deadwood out first?

And you tend to have the same problem we used to have; players on high wages, with high amortisation costs. How do you get rid of them? The market of teams that can offer solutions is VERY limited.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

I genuinely believe that we have a decent (not great) squad of players, who can surely produce more than what we have seen in the past 2 years. We are bringing in a manager (well hopefully we will get him!!!) who has worked with limited resources and has a reputation for improving players. It's a great opportunity for him and I feel the right manager can give this squad the boost it needs, give them identity and clear instruction and get them to play in an effective way.
It may mean Amorim needs to tweak his own thinking etc, but it's a great challenge for him to develop himself as a coach etc.

Am I getting excited - sure, it's a sad day if you can't try to feel a bit optimistic about a new coach coming in etc.

Some players will be transformed by whoever the new coach is, others will fall down the pecking order, but let's try to be positive

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 29 minutes ago
I was keen on the Amorim link. Quite disappointed that it won't come to pass now.
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My first reaction was "Has it collapsed?". Then I saw you were replying to Robb and all is good again.

In fairness to Robb he did predict the Ten Hag sacking...
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LOL so did most United supporters. It was just a matter of time. How it dragged on for so long is a mystery we all wondered about that only INEOS can explain. I think they were embarrassed that they facked up after the Cup Final and decided to just hope that Ten Hag would eventually sorted it out. Which was never going to happen, was it, if we are all honest. And it didnt. So they had to sack him before thinks got too messy leaving United a tricky fight to the end of the season after Xmas.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

What we need is a manager who won't come and make Bruno and Rashford unbenchable

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 19 minutes ago
I genuinely believe that we have a decent (not great) squad of players, who can surely produce more than what we have seen in the past 2 years. We are bringing in a manager (well hopefully we will get him!!!) who has worked with limited resources and has a reputation for improving players. It's a great opportunity for him and I feel the right manager can give this squad the boost it needs, give them identity and clear instruction and get them to play in an effective way.
It may mean Amorim needs to tweak his own thinking etc, but it's a great challenge for him to develop himself as a coach etc.

Am I getting excited - sure, it's a sad day if you can't try to feel a bit optimistic about a new coach coming in etc.

Some players will be transformed by whoever the new coach is, others will fall down the pecking order, but let's try to be positive
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Not sure about your squad, it's probably 4th/5th best in the league with the gap to the best squads bigger than the gap to the 7th/8th best. ETH bought a lot of dross as did the managers before him although there's obviously some decent players in the mix and the right manager might have them punching above their weight somewhat.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

Bringing in Gyokeres in Jan will help a lot

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
Bringing in Gyokeres in Jan will help a lot
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I suppose scoring for fun in the Portuguese league is similar to scoring for fun in the championship

Premier league a whole different kettle of fish

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 19 minutes ago
I genuinely believe that we have a decent (not great) squad of players, who can surely produce more than what we have seen in the past 2 years. We are bringing in a manager (well hopefully we will get him!!!) who has worked with limited resources and has a reputation for improving players. It's a great opportunity for him and I feel the right manager can give this squad the boost it needs, give them identity and clear instruction and get them to play in an effective way.
It may mean Amorim needs to tweak his own thinking etc, but it's a great challenge for him to develop himself as a coach etc.

Am I getting excited - sure, it's a sad day if you can't try to feel a bit optimistic about a new coach coming in etc.

Some players will be transformed by whoever the new coach is, others will fall down the pecking order, but let's try to be positive
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Not sure about your squad, it's probably 4th/5th best in the league with the gap to the best squads bigger than the gap to the 7th/8th best. ETH bought a lot of dross as did the managers before him although there's obviously some decent players in the mix and the right manager might have them punching above their weight somewhat.
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For me, we really don't know how good this squad of players really can be. Most of them were there to somehow finish 3rd a few years ago, and the fact they finished 8th whilst being completely rubbish last year shows that there must be some talent in there.

The squad lacks any truly world class players (there are a few youngsters who may make that step up but time will tell) but my feeling is the right manager can surely improve them and get them playing better that what we have seen in the past couple of seasons.

Of course to challenge the very top there needs to be improvements both within the team and the bringing in of a few quality players, but a club like Utd should be at the very least challenging for CL places - obviously a new manager needs to settle in etc, and I've pretty much written off this season, but I don't think anyone really knows how good / poor this squad really is.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
Bringing in Gyokeres in Jan will help a lot
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I suppose scoring for fun in the Portuguese league is similar to scoring for fun in the championship

Premier league a whole different kettle of fish
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He’s got 2 champions league goals this season already and had 5 Europa league goals last season.

10 goals for Sweden too.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
Bringing in Gyokeres in Jan will help a lot
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I suppose scoring for fun in the Portuguese league is similar to scoring for fun in the championship

Premier league a whole different kettle of fish
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He’s got 2 champions league goals this season already and had 5 Europa league goals last season.

10 goals for Sweden too.
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Buying a striker from Portugal is 100 million. We are not even close financially

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

When I look at what Amorin has achieved, it's seems similar to what ETH acheived at Ajax. Hopefully he can handle the step up.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
When I look at what Amorin has achieved, it's seems similar to what ETH acheived at Ajax. Hopefully he can handle the step up.
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Thank god. I thought I was the only one seeing this.

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
Bringing in Gyokeres in Jan will help a lot
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I suppose scoring for fun in the Portuguese league is similar to scoring for fun in the championship

Premier league a whole different kettle of fish
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He’s got 2 champions league goals this season already and had 5 Europa league goals last season.

10 goals for Sweden too.
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Is this going to be your new Lukaku, Robbsie?

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
When I look at what Amorin has achieved, it's seems similar to what ETH acheived at Ajax. Hopefully he can handle the step up.
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Thank god. I thought I was the only one seeing this.
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It's always going to be the case with signing a new manager - someone who has been doing it at a slightly lower level, and whether they can make that final step up. I don't know why, but whilst I felt ETH was a good choice at the time, it didn't really excite me.

For some reason Amorim is getting me buzzing. Maybe because it's been so bad for such a long time, but there seems so much potential there, I just hope he is the right guy. Haven't felt like this since we signed Rooney

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 12 minutes ago
When I look at what Amorin has achieved, it's seems similar to what ETH acheived at Ajax. Hopefully he can handle the step up.
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This is definitely a valid point. I'd perhaps temper it by stating that Ajax are the biggest club in the Netherlands whereas Sporting, usually at least, are behind Porto and Benfica.

His main issue will be communicating his ideas properly which is something I don't think Ten Hag quite managed. There's no doubt in my mind Erik knew what he wanted to do he just couldn't get them to do it!

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
When I look at what Amorin has achieved, it's seems similar to what ETH acheived at Ajax. Hopefully he can handle the step up.
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Thank god. I thought I was the only one seeing this.
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My thoughts exactly. Could be Ten Hag MKll
There really is a big diff between the PL and minor European Leagues like Holland and Portugal. We really need a manager with a track record. Otherwise its a massive gamble. Just like Ten Hag was. United hired him because he won stuff at Ajax. Yet he was clueless in the PL

posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
When I look at what Amorin has achieved, it's seems similar to what ETH acheived at Ajax. Hopefully he can handle the step up.
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Thank god. I thought I was the only one seeing this.
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My thoughts exactly. Could be Ten Hag MKll
There really is a big diff between the PL and minor European Leagues like Holland and Portugal. We really need a manager with a track record. Otherwise its a massive gamble. Just like Ten Hag was. United hired him because he won stuff at Ajax. Yet he was clueless in the PL
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Imo Conte would be the safest bet but he’s off in Serie A now helping Napoli winning a title possibly.

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