comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
1. The Telegraph isn't a especially reliable these days, so take the article with a pinch of salt.
2. It is common sense that any owners will want a manager to get the most of the existing players. This isn't something out of the ordinary. We will assess what he has and then put together a wish list for the summer.
3. In addition to Amad, Garnacho and Manioo, we also have Yoro and Hojlund who are promising. And the squad as a whole isn't as bad as people make out. It has just been poorly coached. I'd reserve judgement until we have seen what a decent coach can get out of the team.
4. These players have already won silverware. Why would they not be good enough to win more under a better manager?
5. We would all be delighted if he gets us back into the CL this season. It will be a tough job though. I don't expect us to be able to challenge for the title for a couple of seasons at best, but momentum can gather quickly under the right manager.
6. Why shouldn't we expect anything exciting? Right now some entertaining football would be exciting. And I think we are at least going to get that.
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I think your squad has plenty of talent but its the mobility, energy and athleticism in so many positions that is where the manager may find it difficult to impose his style.
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Hmm, not sure we are lacking it in so many positions. I think that we probably need another mobile CM and CB. Yoro gives us some mobility in CB and Ugarte has done the same in CM.
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For me all your issues have come from a lack of pace at the back, making a high line very risky. The press is less effective and thus teams have been able to play through you with more ease than you'd like. May be this is coaching, may be its the players.
Many say that the pressing game starts at the top of the pitch, and while this is true, you need a mobile energetic frontline, if the back line is too scared to step up the press fails.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 55 minutes ago
There will be money to spend in the summer. Just not silly amounts.
We’ll have to do a lot of deals, so hopefully we can get a few young, lesser known, exciting players in for Amorim to work his magic on.
Sporting’s side is insanely young, and that isn’t by accident. I think they only have two or three players over the age of 28 in their entire squad. So likely Amorim will be very happy to take on players to develop towards Ineos’s 2018 target.
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Rosso wants Joseball and a second place finish it seems. Then a former striker to come in on an interim basis.
Personally, I'd love to see us rising back into contention through 2-3 years of great coaching combined with intelligent recruitment of players with high potential, as opposed to spending lavishly on elite players.
I suppose the OP knows this, but INEOS haven't asked for public money to fund a new stadium.
I'm sure there will be money come summer, I wouldn't expect us to spend in January.
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure there will be money come summer, I wouldn't expect us to spend in January.
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 55 minutes ago
There will be money to spend in the summer. Just not silly amounts.
We’ll have to do a lot of deals, so hopefully we can get a few young, lesser known, exciting players in for Amorim to work his magic on.
Sporting’s side is insanely young, and that isn’t by accident. I think they only have two or three players over the age of 28 in their entire squad. So likely Amorim will be very happy to take on players to develop towards Ineos’s 2018 target.
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Rosso wants Joseball and a second place finish it seems. Then a former striker to come in on an interim basis.
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Don’t make me get on an EasyJet to Cardiff…
Ruben Amorim will get the players you have playing better, but they are not good enough to win silverware
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But they did win silverware?
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
1. The Telegraph isn't a especially reliable these days, so take the article with a pinch of salt.
2. It is common sense that any owners will want a manager to get the most of the existing players. This isn't something out of the ordinary. We will assess what he has and then put together a wish list for the summer.
3. In addition to Amad, Garnacho and Manioo, we also have Yoro and Hojlund who are promising. And the squad as a whole isn't as bad as people make out. It has just been poorly coached. I'd reserve judgement until we have seen what a decent coach can get out of the team.
4. These players have already won silverware. Why would they not be good enough to win more under a better manager?
5. We would all be delighted if he gets us back into the CL this season. It will be a tough job though. I don't expect us to be able to challenge for the title for a couple of seasons at best, but momentum can gather quickly under the right manager.
6. Why shouldn't we expect anything exciting? Right now some entertaining football would be exciting. And I think we are at least going to get that.
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I think your squad has plenty of talent but its the mobility, energy and athleticism in so many positions that is where the manager may find it difficult to impose his style.
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Hmm, not sure we are lacking it in so many positions. I think that we probably need another mobile CM and CB. Yoro gives us some mobility in CB and Ugarte has done the same in CM.
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For me all your issues have come from a lack of pace at the back, making a high line very risky. The press is less effective and thus teams have been able to play through you with more ease than you'd like. May be this is coaching, may be its the players.
Many say that the pressing game starts at the top of the pitch, and while this is true, you need a mobile energetic frontline, if the back line is too scared to step up the press fails.
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I agree with the CB position, but you said many positions. Which I don't agree with.
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
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A good point about scouting and recruitment actually. I forgot that we had a team now to do this consistently so we won’t see a massive change manager to manager.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
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A good point about scouting and recruitment actually. I forgot that we had a team now to do this consistently so we won’t see a massive change manager to manager.
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I'm pretty sure he will still have a say on what position he wants to strengthen and in which priority order
I always laugh when United fans get outraged over a lack of spending, as if they haven’t already dished out well over £1.5b in transfer fees over the last decade
comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
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A good point about scouting and recruitment actually. I forgot that we had a team now to do this consistently so we won’t see a massive change manager to manager.
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I'm pretty sure he will still have a say on what position he wants to strengthen and in which priority order
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True but I do want us to have a continual direction. Not what we’ve had for the last ten years where each manager buys THEIR players and then a new coach comes in and needs to start all over again.
This is actually why I want him to focus on improving what we’ve got until the summer. Too many of our managers have just ripped up the old, spent big then go to pot then rinse and repeat.
I want him to do things slowly and properly.
This article saying Amorim won’t be able to sign any new players ever is really angering me.
I’m disgusted and can’t believe we ain’t gonna carry on spunking dough
First line of the daily mail article, Amorim will have a reduced budget........ So there is money to spend just not half a billion like other transfer windows
clearly... the players who Man United have in the squad are capable of winning silverware.
Cos they did.
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
I always laugh when United fans get outraged over a lack of spending, as if they haven’t already dished out well over £1.5b in transfer fees over the last decade
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Where's the outrage?
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
I always laugh when United fans get outraged over a lack of spending, as if they haven’t already dished out well over £1.5b in transfer fees over the last decade
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Where's the outrage?
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In his head
The Telegraph say this before every summer transfer window. Ducker and Ogden always parrot the line that we only have 50m to spend before sales and them BOOM! We spend 200m. They don't know anything.
comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 9 hours, 24 minutes ago
Couple that lot with Chelsea Jim losing £4bn of his own personal wealth
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You understand how the stock market works don't you? That won't be 4bn of liquid assets, therefore has no material impact on his cashflow or ability to fund projects at United.
Definite wum article but it's a fairly good one cos there's nuggets of truth in there to spike justified insecurities among united fans.
4 s
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
1. The Telegraph isn't a especially reliable these days, so take the article with a pinch of salt.
2. It is common sense that any owners will want a manager to get the most of the existing players. This isn't something out of the ordinary. We will assess what he has and then put together a wish list for the summer.
3. In addition to Amad, Garnacho and Manioo, we also have Yoro and Hojlund who are promising. And the squad as a whole isn't as bad as people make out. It has just been poorly coached. I'd reserve judgement until we have seen what a decent coach can get out of the team.
4. These players have already won silverware. Why would they not be good enough to win more under a better manager?
5. We would all be delighted if he gets us back into the CL this season. It will be a tough job though. I don't expect us to be able to challenge for the title for a couple of seasons at best, but momentum can gather quickly under the right manager.
6. Why shouldn't we expect anything exciting? Right now some entertaining football would be exciting. And I think we are at least going to get that.
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I think your squad has plenty of talent but its the mobility, energy and athleticism in so many positions that is where the manager may find it difficult to impose his style.
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Hmm, not sure we are lacking it in so many positions. I think that we probably need another mobile CM and CB. Yoro gives us some mobility in CB and Ugarte has done the same in CM.
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For me all your issues have come from a lack of pace at the back, making a high line very risky. The press is less effective and thus teams have been able to play through you with more ease than you'd like. May be this is coaching, may be its the players.
Many say that the pressing game starts at the top of the pitch, and while this is true, you need a mobile energetic frontline, if the back line is too scared to step up the press fails.
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I agree with the CB position, but you said many positions. Which I don't agree with.
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I would say your CM lacks running power. No real ball carriers who can break lines and drive forward, or make lung busting recovery runs. No one snapping at the heels of opposition. All a bit one paced
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posted on 19/11/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
1. The Telegraph isn't a especially reliable these days, so take the article with a pinch of salt.
2. It is common sense that any owners will want a manager to get the most of the existing players. This isn't something out of the ordinary. We will assess what he has and then put together a wish list for the summer.
3. In addition to Amad, Garnacho and Manioo, we also have Yoro and Hojlund who are promising. And the squad as a whole isn't as bad as people make out. It has just been poorly coached. I'd reserve judgement until we have seen what a decent coach can get out of the team.
4. These players have already won silverware. Why would they not be good enough to win more under a better manager?
5. We would all be delighted if he gets us back into the CL this season. It will be a tough job though. I don't expect us to be able to challenge for the title for a couple of seasons at best, but momentum can gather quickly under the right manager.
6. Why shouldn't we expect anything exciting? Right now some entertaining football would be exciting. And I think we are at least going to get that.
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I think your squad has plenty of talent but its the mobility, energy and athleticism in so many positions that is where the manager may find it difficult to impose his style.
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Hmm, not sure we are lacking it in so many positions. I think that we probably need another mobile CM and CB. Yoro gives us some mobility in CB and Ugarte has done the same in CM.
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For me all your issues have come from a lack of pace at the back, making a high line very risky. The press is less effective and thus teams have been able to play through you with more ease than you'd like. May be this is coaching, may be its the players.
Many say that the pressing game starts at the top of the pitch, and while this is true, you need a mobile energetic frontline, if the back line is too scared to step up the press fails.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 55 minutes ago
There will be money to spend in the summer. Just not silly amounts.
We’ll have to do a lot of deals, so hopefully we can get a few young, lesser known, exciting players in for Amorim to work his magic on.
Sporting’s side is insanely young, and that isn’t by accident. I think they only have two or three players over the age of 28 in their entire squad. So likely Amorim will be very happy to take on players to develop towards Ineos’s 2018 target.
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Rosso wants Joseball and a second place finish it seems. Then a former striker to come in on an interim basis.
posted on 19/11/24
Personally, I'd love to see us rising back into contention through 2-3 years of great coaching combined with intelligent recruitment of players with high potential, as opposed to spending lavishly on elite players.
I suppose the OP knows this, but INEOS haven't asked for public money to fund a new stadium.
posted on 19/11/24
I'm sure there will be money come summer, I wouldn't expect us to spend in January.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm sure there will be money come summer, I wouldn't expect us to spend in January.
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posted on 19/11/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 55 minutes ago
There will be money to spend in the summer. Just not silly amounts.
We’ll have to do a lot of deals, so hopefully we can get a few young, lesser known, exciting players in for Amorim to work his magic on.
Sporting’s side is insanely young, and that isn’t by accident. I think they only have two or three players over the age of 28 in their entire squad. So likely Amorim will be very happy to take on players to develop towards Ineos’s 2018 target.
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Rosso wants Joseball and a second place finish it seems. Then a former striker to come in on an interim basis.
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Don’t make me get on an EasyJet to Cardiff…
posted on 19/11/24
Ruben Amorim will get the players you have playing better, but they are not good enough to win silverware
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But they did win silverware?
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
1. The Telegraph isn't a especially reliable these days, so take the article with a pinch of salt.
2. It is common sense that any owners will want a manager to get the most of the existing players. This isn't something out of the ordinary. We will assess what he has and then put together a wish list for the summer.
3. In addition to Amad, Garnacho and Manioo, we also have Yoro and Hojlund who are promising. And the squad as a whole isn't as bad as people make out. It has just been poorly coached. I'd reserve judgement until we have seen what a decent coach can get out of the team.
4. These players have already won silverware. Why would they not be good enough to win more under a better manager?
5. We would all be delighted if he gets us back into the CL this season. It will be a tough job though. I don't expect us to be able to challenge for the title for a couple of seasons at best, but momentum can gather quickly under the right manager.
6. Why shouldn't we expect anything exciting? Right now some entertaining football would be exciting. And I think we are at least going to get that.
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I think your squad has plenty of talent but its the mobility, energy and athleticism in so many positions that is where the manager may find it difficult to impose his style.
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Hmm, not sure we are lacking it in so many positions. I think that we probably need another mobile CM and CB. Yoro gives us some mobility in CB and Ugarte has done the same in CM.
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For me all your issues have come from a lack of pace at the back, making a high line very risky. The press is less effective and thus teams have been able to play through you with more ease than you'd like. May be this is coaching, may be its the players.
Many say that the pressing game starts at the top of the pitch, and while this is true, you need a mobile energetic frontline, if the back line is too scared to step up the press fails.
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I agree with the CB position, but you said many positions. Which I don't agree with.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
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A good point about scouting and recruitment actually. I forgot that we had a team now to do this consistently so we won’t see a massive change manager to manager.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
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A good point about scouting and recruitment actually. I forgot that we had a team now to do this consistently so we won’t see a massive change manager to manager.
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I'm pretty sure he will still have a say on what position he wants to strengthen and in which priority order
posted on 19/11/24
I always laugh when United fans get outraged over a lack of spending, as if they haven’t already dished out well over £1.5b in transfer fees over the last decade
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 21 minutes ago
I’m glad that there won’t be funds available in January. He needs to improve the players we have (who are all clearly better than they have been) and then analyse properly who to get rid of in the summer and spend in the summer.
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I don’t think he needs to assess the squad to see where the clear holes in the squad are, to be honest. Lwb most notably, Shaw and Malacia just cannot be relied on.
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He will want to take a look at what he has coming up through the youth setup too though.
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Even with Harry Amass coming through it’s a position we need to strengthen.
I doubt we will due to finances, but that’s different to the reason Sat Nav’s given.
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Clearly there are obvious positions that need addressing. But I don’t like rushing around in January and I want him to focus on assessing the current squad and improving what is there first.
I don’t care about this season all that much. So I want him to take things slowly and do things properly. Yes a LWB is needed, as are other positions but get them in the summer once he’s had a chance to analyse the players and decide who is going to be here and who won’t be.
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Thing is, he won’t be heading up recruitment. So we shouldn’t just be relying on his analysis of the squad for summer recruitment, that’s not his job.
And the short term benefits of a suitable left wing back, for example, can have a benefit in the summer if it helps put short term results, meaning whatever European competition we can qualify for.
For the squad in general I get your thinking, and I’m not opposed to it, but I do think we should be looking at January signings where possible that are suited to the new system and can contribute to the team right away.
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A good point about scouting and recruitment actually. I forgot that we had a team now to do this consistently so we won’t see a massive change manager to manager.
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I'm pretty sure he will still have a say on what position he wants to strengthen and in which priority order
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True but I do want us to have a continual direction. Not what we’ve had for the last ten years where each manager buys THEIR players and then a new coach comes in and needs to start all over again.
This is actually why I want him to focus on improving what we’ve got until the summer. Too many of our managers have just ripped up the old, spent big then go to pot then rinse and repeat.
I want him to do things slowly and properly.
posted on 19/11/24
This article saying Amorim won’t be able to sign any new players ever is really angering me.
posted on 19/11/24
I’m disgusted and can’t believe we ain’t gonna carry on spunking dough
posted on 19/11/24
First line of the daily mail article, Amorim will have a reduced budget........ So there is money to spend just not half a billion like other transfer windows
posted on 19/11/24
clearly... the players who Man United have in the squad are capable of winning silverware.
Cos they did.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
I always laugh when United fans get outraged over a lack of spending, as if they haven’t already dished out well over £1.5b in transfer fees over the last decade
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Where's the outrage?
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
I always laugh when United fans get outraged over a lack of spending, as if they haven’t already dished out well over £1.5b in transfer fees over the last decade
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Where's the outrage?
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In his head
posted on 19/11/24
The Telegraph say this before every summer transfer window. Ducker and Ogden always parrot the line that we only have 50m to spend before sales and them BOOM! We spend 200m. They don't know anything.
posted on 19/11/24
comment by Glen Bulb (U1449)
posted 9 hours, 24 minutes ago
Couple that lot with Chelsea Jim losing £4bn of his own personal wealth
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You understand how the stock market works don't you? That won't be 4bn of liquid assets, therefore has no material impact on his cashflow or ability to fund projects at United.
posted on 20/11/24
Definite wum article but it's a fairly good one cos there's nuggets of truth in there to spike justified insecurities among united fans.
4 s
posted on 20/11/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 19 hours, 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
1. The Telegraph isn't a especially reliable these days, so take the article with a pinch of salt.
2. It is common sense that any owners will want a manager to get the most of the existing players. This isn't something out of the ordinary. We will assess what he has and then put together a wish list for the summer.
3. In addition to Amad, Garnacho and Manioo, we also have Yoro and Hojlund who are promising. And the squad as a whole isn't as bad as people make out. It has just been poorly coached. I'd reserve judgement until we have seen what a decent coach can get out of the team.
4. These players have already won silverware. Why would they not be good enough to win more under a better manager?
5. We would all be delighted if he gets us back into the CL this season. It will be a tough job though. I don't expect us to be able to challenge for the title for a couple of seasons at best, but momentum can gather quickly under the right manager.
6. Why shouldn't we expect anything exciting? Right now some entertaining football would be exciting. And I think we are at least going to get that.
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I think your squad has plenty of talent but its the mobility, energy and athleticism in so many positions that is where the manager may find it difficult to impose his style.
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Hmm, not sure we are lacking it in so many positions. I think that we probably need another mobile CM and CB. Yoro gives us some mobility in CB and Ugarte has done the same in CM.
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For me all your issues have come from a lack of pace at the back, making a high line very risky. The press is less effective and thus teams have been able to play through you with more ease than you'd like. May be this is coaching, may be its the players.
Many say that the pressing game starts at the top of the pitch, and while this is true, you need a mobile energetic frontline, if the back line is too scared to step up the press fails.
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I agree with the CB position, but you said many positions. Which I don't agree with.
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I would say your CM lacks running power. No real ball carriers who can break lines and drive forward, or make lung busting recovery runs. No one snapping at the heels of opposition. All a bit one paced
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