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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 20 minutes ago
Including football inflation, how much did Fergie spend to win his first PL title?
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No idea.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ferguson broke the record five times, more than double anyone else.
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Hmm. Who are these players? I have got Cole, Rio and Veron. In my head I am thinking that Pallister was one also, but he isn't on the list on the club's website.
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He’s playing a game of ‘find a metric that can help back up my point and ignore anything that doesn’t’.

He should work in digital marketing.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ferguson broke the record five times, more than double anyone else.
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Hmm. Who are these players? I have got Cole, Rio and Veron. In my head I am thinking that Pallister was one also, but he isn't on the list on the club's website.
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He’s playing a game of ‘find a metric that can help back up my point and ignore anything that doesn’t’.

He should work in digital marketing.
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Having worked in the digital marketing myself for 5 years, I can see right through his waffle!

To be honest, I don't even know how we ended up talking about transfer fees and spend. My initial point was that SAF had a hell of a lot to do to get United competing when he took over. Pep has managed teams that were in a much better state from the off.

That is no slight on Pep. He is a fantastic coach. But I don't think that he could have done what SAF did and managed as much of the club as he did, whilst retaining that same level of coaching ability.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

I don’t think you know what waffle means.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don’t think you know what waffle means.
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Of course I do. Earlier in the thread you were waffling about people rewriting history regarding SAF. No-one has done that.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don’t think you know what waffle means.
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Of course I do. Earlier in the thread you were waffling about people rewriting history regarding SAF. No-one has done that.
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What you actually mean is that I wrote one sentence on that. One.

What’s actually happened is that I said their legacies were poles apart and for me, 7 games doesn’t change that.

You turn totally misquoted me (which you apologised for tbf) and I then asked what is Ferguson legacy on the game.

You said you’d get back to me later. Of course you didn’t.

I then posted about Peps influence on the game, through coaching and his players and staff moving into management and that although Ferguson is a great manager, it’s nowhere near the same legacy and influence. No waffle there either.

In the midst of that you accused me of fixating on spend when in reality all I did was ask you a question whilst you wrote five separate post on spend.

I don’t come on here as much these days as a lot of the best posters have left and now it’s filled with people who are at best, very economical with the truth.

No need to apologise, just thought I’d point out what was actually written. It’s all there in black and white and have a nice day.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

“Ferguson spent absolutely oodles on wages and transfer fees to put Utd at the top, more than anyone else until Roman came along. ”

Speaking of being economical with the truth…

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

If you can find a manager or club who spent more on wages and transfer fees between 1986 and 2003 I’d be interested to read it.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Well Liverpool spent more in the 90s, so I’d say that pretty much destroys your argument.

In reality, SAF did a remarkable job at United, so to label it as simply spending more than anyone else and bullying refs is laughable and you’re making yourself look a bit silly tbh.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

We had nowhere near the same wage bill and in fact it was Utd, feel free to use AI, google, whatever, they all say the same - Utd.

Again, I don’t expect an apology

I also didn’t simply label it as spending more and bullying refs. In fact I said he was a great manager.

As said, very economical with the truth.

Still you’ve got the attention you desire so hope it finds you well.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Elvis, I got the transfer record thing wrong btw. That’s what using a twitter link does! It was three, it’s Utd that have five times. Apologies.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
7 bad games doesn’t change much for me tbh, Pep is quite obviously the greatest. Just the influence he’s had on other coaches and youth development all over the world is testament to that.

I don’t think anyone is trying to copy breaking the transfer record more than anyone else and bullying refs tbh. Their legacies are miles apart.
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Imagine this as an opening gambit, about one of the best ever managers in the game, and then accusing others of seeking attention.

Keep up the good work with the self awareness, Robbing.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

As for the wages excuse, it’s a nice attempt at a cop out but it doesn’t really work.

Over significant periods of time, clubs like Liverpool were outspending United.

Ferguson did of course utilise the vast increase in revenue as time went on, but it would fair to argue that he earned that, given the success he brought to the club.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 11 minutes ago
Elvis, I got the transfer record thing wrong btw. That’s what using a twitter link does! It was three, it’s Utd that have five times. Apologies.
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It's actually 6 times in history I believe. And wasn't Grealish a record? Either way, Pep has spent a lot more than SAF did

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ferguson broke the record five times, more than double anyone else.
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Hmm. Who are these players? I have got Cole, Rio and Veron. In my head I am thinking that Pallister was one also, but he isn't on the list on the club's website.
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He’s playing a game of ‘find a metric that can help back up my point and ignore anything that doesn’t’.

He should work in digital marketing.
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Elvis lead us along this path.

That's why I threw in the one about Fergie's first title.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ferguson broke the record five times, more than double anyone else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmm. Who are these players? I have got Cole, Rio and Veron. In my head I am thinking that Pallister was one also, but he isn't on the list on the club's website.
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Keane, Cole, Veron, Ferdinand. Possibly also Van Nistelrooy. Can't remember if he was signed before or after Veron. Pallister transfer definitely didn't break the transfer record.

If it's 4 times then I think it's as many as Dalglish. Beardsley, Rush, Sutton, Carroll.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I don’t think you know what waffle means.
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Of course I do. Earlier in the thread you were waffling about people rewriting history regarding SAF. No-one has done that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

What you actually mean is that I wrote one sentence on that. One.

What’s actually happened is that I said their legacies were poles apart and for me, 7 games doesn’t change that.

You turn totally misquoted me (which you apologised for tbf) and I then asked what is Ferguson legacy on the game.

You said you’d get back to me later. Of course you didn’t.

I then posted about Peps influence on the game, through coaching and his players and staff moving into management and that although Ferguson is a great manager, it’s nowhere near the same legacy and influence. No waffle there either.

In the midst of that you accused me of fixating on spend when in reality all I did was ask you a question whilst you wrote five separate post on spend.

I don’t come on here as much these days as a lot of the best posters have left and now it’s filled with people who are at best, very economical with the truth.

No need to apologise, just thought I’d point out what was actually written. It’s all there in black and white and have a nice day.
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Due to my personal situation I don't usually have time to post on an evening and didn't get chance last night. By the time I got back to the thread this morning you'd moved onto how much SAF had spent, so I replied to that.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
7 bad games doesn’t change much for me tbh, Pep is quite obviously the greatest. Just the influence he’s had on other coaches and youth development all over the world is testament to that.

I don’t think anyone is trying to copy breaking the transfer record more than anyone else and bullying refs tbh. Their legacies are miles apart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Imagine this as an opening gambit, about one of the best ever managers in the game, and then accusing others of seeking attention.

Keep up the good work with the self awareness, Robbing.
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I did think she same. Not sure if he has a total lack of self awareness or is just a wum.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ferguson broke the record five times, more than double anyone else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmm. Who are these players? I have got Cole, Rio and Veron. In my head I am thinking that Pallister was one also, but he isn't on the list on the club's website.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Keane, Cole, Veron, Ferdinand. Possibly also Van Nistelrooy. Can't remember if he was signed before or after Veron. Pallister transfer definitely didn't break the transfer record.

If it's 4 times then I think it's as many as Dalglish. Beardsley, Rush, Sutton, Carroll.
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I think Pallister may have been the record for a British player? Or maybe a defender?

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

And I think Grealish was a record for a British player too

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ferguson broke the record five times, more than double anyone else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmm. Who are these players? I have got Cole, Rio and Veron. In my head I am thinking that Pallister was one also, but he isn't on the list on the club's website.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Keane, Cole, Veron, Ferdinand. Possibly also Van Nistelrooy. Can't remember if he was signed before or after Veron. Pallister transfer definitely didn't break the transfer record.

If it's 4 times then I think it's as many as Dalglish. Beardsley, Rush, Sutton, Carroll.
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I think Pallister may have been the record for a British player? Or maybe a defender?
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Ian Rush was the record signing at that time at £2.8m.

Pallister was £2.3m a year later. Would have been the record for a defender I'd imagine, but that's not really a thing is it?

If it was a thing it was broken couple of years later when City signed Keith Curle. And equalled when City signed Terry Phelan after that.

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
7 bad games doesn’t change much for me tbh, Pep is quite obviously the greatest. Just the influence he’s had on other coaches and youth development all over the world is testament to that.

I don’t think anyone is trying to copy breaking the transfer record more than anyone else and bullying refs tbh. Their legacies are miles apart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Imagine this as an opening gambit, about one of the best ever managers in the game, and then accusing others of seeking attention.

Keep up the good work with the self awareness, Robbing.
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I did think she same. Not sure if he has a total lack of self awareness or is just a wum.
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Just out of interest Elvis, what, specifically, about that post would demonstrate a lack of self awareness?

I’m willing to bet money to a charity of your choice that you are unable to say with any credibility, and have instead just dropped a cheap soundbite.

I’ll wait.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
7 bad games doesn’t change much for me tbh, Pep is quite obviously the greatest. Just the influence he’s had on other coaches and youth development all over the world is testament to that.

I don’t think anyone is trying to copy breaking the transfer record more than anyone else and bullying refs tbh. Their legacies are miles apart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Imagine this as an opening gambit, about one of the best ever managers in the game, and then accusing others of seeking attention.

Keep up the good work with the self awareness, Robbing.
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I did think she same. Not sure if he has a total lack of self awareness or is just a wum.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Just out of interest Elvis, what, specifically, about that post would demonstrate a lack of self awareness?

I’m willing to bet money to a charity of your choice that you are unable to say with any credibility, and have instead just dropped a cheap soundbite.

I’ll wait.
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Winston has already highlighted it. A ridiculous barbed comment denigrating SAF with the sole intention of getting attention. Then accusing others of seeking attention. Its comical that you don't even recognise it yourself, as its sormething you do on regular basis.

I'll expect the usuall bluster and insults.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 2 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ferguson broke the record five times, more than double anyone else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmm. Who are these players? I have got Cole, Rio and Veron. In my head I am thinking that Pallister was one also, but he isn't on the list on the club's website.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Keane, Cole, Veron, Ferdinand. Possibly also Van Nistelrooy. Can't remember if he was signed before or after Veron. Pallister transfer definitely didn't break the transfer record.

If it's 4 times then I think it's as many as Dalglish. Beardsley, Rush, Sutton, Carroll.
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I think Pallister may have been the record for a British player? Or maybe a defender?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ian Rush was the record signing at that time at £2.8m.

Pallister was £2.3m a year later. Would have been the record for a defender I'd imagine, but that's not really a thing is it?

If it was a thing it was broken couple of years later when City signed Keith Curle. And equalled when City signed Terry Phelan after that.
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Pallister's transfer broke the national record for a fee paid for a defender, as well as being the highest fee between British clubs, and the second highest fee to be paid by a British club (second only to Ian Rush's return to Liverpool from Juventus a year earlier).

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - keepy up arbiter. Don’t talk to me unless you can do ten (U6374)
posted 1 day, 6 hours ago
7 bad games doesn’t change much for me tbh, Pep is quite obviously the greatest. Just the influence he’s had on other coaches and youth development all over the world is testament to that.

I don’t think anyone is trying to copy breaking the transfer record more than anyone else and bullying refs tbh. Their legacies are miles apart.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Imagine this as an opening gambit, about one of the best ever managers in the game, and then accusing others of seeking attention.

Keep up the good work with the self awareness, Robbing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I did think she same. Not sure if he has a total lack of self awareness or is just a wum.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Just out of interest Elvis, what, specifically, about that post would demonstrate a lack of self awareness?

I’m willing to bet money to a charity of your choice that you are unable to say with any credibility, and have instead just dropped a cheap soundbite.

I’ll wait.
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Winston has already highlighted it. A ridiculous barbed comment denigrating SAF with the sole intention of getting attention. Then accusing others of seeking attention. Its comical that you don't even recognise it yourself, as its sormething you do on regular basis.

I'll expect the usuall bluster and insults.

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It’s okay to say ‘no, I can’t, sorry about that’.

Nothing posted has anything to do with self awareness. It just doesn’t.

Look, it’s fine. You’ve lied and that’s okay. Happy to stand corrected btw so feel free.

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