comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
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Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
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That’s a mystery to me too.
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
You could understand this coming from someone like Son or Kane when he was there. Romero lacks the self awareness to realise he’s one of the biggest problems with the team.
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Romero is not the problem.
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Clown cb in a team that ships goals for fun is certainly a major problem.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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More than enough. He is not as good as you think he is.
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 10 minutes ago
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
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That’s a mystery to me too.
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Lets face it, most things football are a mystery to you!
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 10 minutes ago
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
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That’s a mystery to me too.
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Lets face it, most things football are a mystery to you!
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Like fans who refuse to see our manager’s many faults and who somehow think our abysmal owners and chairman can do no wrong.
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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More than enough. He is not as good as you think he is.
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I’d say he’s way better than you think, and good luck getting anyone better who wants to come to Spurs.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
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OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
How about selling Romero and going after Branthwaite?
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
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OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
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Amen.
We ain’t rebuilding $hit.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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Where do Atalanta keep pulling these players from? Europa winners last year, top of serie A this year - on less than a quarter of our budget
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
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And my point is that Klopp secured CL in his second season and Arteta won the cup in his first. Without that cup win I doubt Arteta remained in charge, without CL qualification I doubt Klopp remained in charge.
Are we saying if we finish 11th then Ange should get more time because he needs more windows?
If the answer is yes, then why him? Why not any of the others.
If we don’t qualify for CL or we don’t win a cup then there is no progression and Levy should sack him.
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posted 57 minutes ago
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posted 40 minutes ago
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posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
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posted 24 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
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Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
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OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
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Amen.
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Ange in then. 3 more windows. Stay humble.
#FreePalestine
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posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
How about selling Romero and going after Branthwaite?
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He’s a lefty so do we want him and VDV starting?
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posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
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posted 56 minutes ago
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posted 20 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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More than enough. He is not as good as you think he is.
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I’d say he’s way better than you think, and good luck getting anyone better who wants to come to Spurs.
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I agree with you about Ange and ENIC, but Romero is a problem as well. Strong vibes he doesn’t want to be here
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posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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Where do Atalanta keep pulling these players from? Europa winners last year, top of serie A this year - on less than a quarter of our budget
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Exactly, if they can, so can we. Up to Lang and co to sort it out but there are plenty of less wreckless defenders out there who are pacier too.
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posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
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Amen.
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Ange in then. 3 more windows. Stay humble.
#FreePalestine
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He could have ten windows, we ain’t winning $hit with him or Levy.
So it doesn't matter who Levy gets in then. Don't think any top class manager wants us unless they are desperate.
Some people want Potter but does he even want us? He turned us down in 2023 and he ain't top class.
And the reports stated he did not want to work with Levy 😂
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posted on 10/12/24
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
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That’s a mystery to me too.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
You could understand this coming from someone like Son or Kane when he was there. Romero lacks the self awareness to realise he’s one of the biggest problems with the team.
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Romero is not the problem.
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Clown cb in a team that ships goals for fun is certainly a major problem.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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More than enough. He is not as good as you think he is.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 10 minutes ago
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
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That’s a mystery to me too.
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Lets face it, most things football are a mystery to you!
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 10 minutes ago
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
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That’s a mystery to me too.
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Lets face it, most things football are a mystery to you!
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Like fans who refuse to see our manager’s many faults and who somehow think our abysmal owners and chairman can do no wrong.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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More than enough. He is not as good as you think he is.
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I’d say he’s way better than you think, and good luck getting anyone better who wants to come to Spurs.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
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So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
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They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
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OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
posted on 10/12/24
How about selling Romero and going after Branthwaite?
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Amen.
posted on 10/12/24
Rebuild under Enic?!?!!
posted on 10/12/24
We ain’t rebuilding $hit.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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Where do Atalanta keep pulling these players from? Europa winners last year, top of serie A this year - on less than a quarter of our budget
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
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And my point is that Klopp secured CL in his second season and Arteta won the cup in his first. Without that cup win I doubt Arteta remained in charge, without CL qualification I doubt Klopp remained in charge.
Are we saying if we finish 11th then Ange should get more time because he needs more windows?
If the answer is yes, then why him? Why not any of the others.
If we don’t qualify for CL or we don’t win a cup then there is no progression and Levy should sack him.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Amen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ange in then. 3 more windows. Stay humble.
#FreePalestine
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
How about selling Romero and going after Branthwaite?
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He’s a lefty so do we want him and VDV starting?
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
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How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
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More than enough. He is not as good as you think he is.
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I’d say he’s way better than you think, and good luck getting anyone better who wants to come to Spurs.
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I agree with you about Ange and ENIC, but Romero is a problem as well. Strong vibes he doesn’t want to be here
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 3 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah I think Romero is done and will be gone by next summer.
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Good fee and fair enough
Guy isn’t available enough for our main centre half
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Agreed. Great on the world stage. Not so much on the domestic stage. Replaceable. No point in fan boying him like Sizz.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many decent replacement's do you think are available or affordable (to Levy) ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where do Atalanta keep pulling these players from? Europa winners last year, top of serie A this year - on less than a quarter of our budget
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Exactly, if they can, so can we. Up to Lang and co to sort it out but there are plenty of less wreckless defenders out there who are pacier too.
posted on 10/12/24
comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - staying humble (U18109)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hezzman (U21558)
posted 2 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Its funny that he point at Liverpool, A team that bought no one this summer bar a sick note from Italy, and a club who we routinely outspend.
None of Gakpo, Nunez, Jota, Endo, Szoboszlai have been particularly stand out signings. Very decent but nothing to rave about. Their squad is still held together by a lot of the old guard and it will be interesting to see how they transition to a rebuild when the likes of TAA, Salah, VVD move on/retire because these are the WC experienced and successful leaders that hold them together are remain the core of the squad and club.
We dont have that to build from and while i agree with Romero that we need to reinforce further, he also needs to look at himself. Davies has been more reliable at CB this season than Romero.
If Romero doesnt drop off and lose Vardy, doesnt get lost tracking Gabriel, doesnt step up when the whole defence is dropping vs NUFC, doesnt stand and watch instead of marking his man vs BHA, then we're at least 5 points better off, we have not lost half our games, we are not giving opposition hope that any minute now we'll feck up and gift you something.
Sort your ownshiiit out first Romero before pointing the finger!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what about when Liverpool actually backed their manager and spent £75m+ on VVD and near enough £40m for Allison two world class/first team players that would benefit and strengthen the team.
Not youth or B grade average players??!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Klopp came in Oct 2015.
They signed VVD in Jan 2018 and Allison in summer 2018 having sold Coutinho in summer 2017.
So if you take the Klopp timeline, he brought in those 2 key players 27 months and 33 months into his reign at Liverpool. Allison was in is third summer window
Next summer Ange will have had 24 months but it will be his 3rd window.
As i said above, i think we can expect 2 or 3 bigger names next season to truly add depth to the squad and impact on the first XI. We like liverpool have not been in a position to make the big signings all in one go. Everything that underpinned their successful time came in over Klopps first 3 years, they did not all come in within a couple windows.
If you look at what they have bought since 2020, then its been really hit and miss but the quality of the core has carried them through, along with the absolute quality of the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They finished 4th in both his 2nd and 3rd year though - there was clear progression. It’s easier to back the manager in that situation. The same has been true of Arteta up until now.
With Ange though - progression would be either finishing 4th or finishing lower but winning a cup.
If he does neither then why is it this manager we should persist with and spend big money on rather than Conte who got CL season 1 or Jose who got us to the cup final before being sacked.
Why Ange? Why does he get a pass and more time?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is a discussion about Levy and backing the manager.
Whoever came in in Summer 2023, in normal spending patterns it has taken the likes of Klopp and Arteta 2 to 3 years to build a squad which has the player they want, and the ones they dont want, gone.
Ange isnt getting any extra time. Klopp had the squad that went on to win things by summer 2018 when they brought in Alliosn & Fabinho.
The difference in all of this is Klopp.
We spenf £150m on decent players next summer and we will have a strong squad. If Ange is good enough to make that a winning squad then who knows, but it will have been assembled at huge expense and will contain a lot of quality that the likes of Klopp would be able to win stuff with.
I am not defending Ange. I am making the case that we are going through a massive rebuild and this, like Arsenal and Liverpool, takes time and our squad is still very much a work in progress, but that is understandable at this stage, and was also the case for Klopp & Arteta 18 months / 2 windows in to their rebuilds.
We will see come the summer whether Ange stays but the fact is any decent manager can work with the players we have. We have some great quality. Many managers achieve more or the same with less.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OMG rebuild!
REBUILD, REBUILD, REBUILD!
That's all we keep hearing - for how many years will we keep rebuilding?
What are we building exactly the new ISS?
Please can anyone tell me when it will be finally BUILT?
I can't stomach another "rebuild" and I don't think anyone else can either.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Amen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ange in then. 3 more windows. Stay humble.
#FreePalestine
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He could have ten windows, we ain’t winning $hit with him or Levy.
posted on 10/12/24
So it doesn't matter who Levy gets in then. Don't think any top class manager wants us unless they are desperate.
Some people want Potter but does he even want us? He turned us down in 2023 and he ain't top class.
posted on 10/12/24
And the reports stated he did not want to work with Levy 😂
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