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posted 6 days ago

It's a difficult one.

I'm assuming it would be quality loans as if/when we get promoted, we can't have players who are not truly EPL standard.

Our squad is stronger and overall better than last year, so do we really need more than the odd addition?

Remember if we do go up, we will need to replace and recruit to be ready for the top flight.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

Where would you strengthen and who would you hope to buy?

Let’s assume you want a 10 and a 9 because elsewhere we are pretty much covered.

January is hard because any decent players are usually unavailable or priced too high. I guess a loan for an out of favour player like (and I’m not saying go for this one) Jack Clarke might work but they are usually out of favour for a reason.

I’m sure the club are looking at options after last season but I think our squad is very strong. Look at our bench on Tuesday and it was a really strong one.


Maybe just an out and out striker needed in place of Bamford but, as I said, who? Plus where does Bamford go?

posted 5 days, 22 hours ago

comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 41 minutes ago
Where would you strengthen and who would you hope to buy?

Let’s assume you want a 10 and a 9 because elsewhere we are pretty much covered.

January is hard because any decent players are usually unavailable or priced too high. I guess a loan for an out of favour player like (and I’m not saying go for this one) Jack Clarke might work but they are usually out of favour for a reason.

I’m sure the club are looking at options after last season but I think our squad is very strong. Look at our bench on Tuesday and it was a really strong one.


Maybe just an out and out striker needed in place of Bamford but, as I said, who? Plus where does Bamford go?


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Stoopo, I don’t understand our reluctance to get a number nine, on the grounds that we still have Bamford. Bamford should not be at this club and he should not be anywhere near the first team.
Just imagine if Piroe gets injured. Then, we would be relying on Joseph and Bamford. In effect, we have no cover in that position. There must be forwards out there who are scoring goals, who are looking for a project like Leeds. Yes, they would cost money, but not nearly as much as the cost of not getting promoted this year. I am just concerned that we will build a cushion of about six points by the end of the year, and will think, we’re ok with what we have…and then we lose a couple of key players in the March international break. We can’t let that happen again, can we?

posted 5 days, 22 hours ago

We actually from 1st of Janaury, got more points than the three teams who went up.

Unless there an absolutely fully fit, ready to go cracking player, I dont see us going for anyone.

On another note, Ive watched sheffield Utd quite alot, and we’ve dodged an absolute expensive bullet in Hamer.


Good player, no doubt, but nowhere near as good has was been made out

posted 5 days, 21 hours ago

I agree with you about Hamer, but I am sure our posters who keep an eye on the talent abroad have some good ideas. For example, the top scorer in the Netherlands at the moment is just 23, his contract runs out in 2025, and he plays for Twente Enschede. Sem Steijn is his name. Surely we could prise him away with a decent bid?
Or do you think we have enough in our squad to go up as we are?

posted 5 days, 21 hours ago

We don’t need to sign anyone.

If we don’t go up this season it’s on Farke, no one else

posted 5 days, 21 hours ago

comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 47 minutes ago
We actually from 1st of Janaury, got more points than the three teams who went up.

Unless there an absolutely fully fit, ready to go cracking player, I dont see us going for anyone.

On another note, Ive watched sheffield Utd quite alot, and we’ve dodged an absolute expensive bullet in Hamer.


Good player, no doubt, but nowhere near as good has was been made out
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Not really watched them this season.

How are they doing generally? Seem to be nicking 1-0 score lines and getting a few last minute winners. Hopefully their luck runs out

posted 5 days, 21 hours ago

Disagree - we don't need to sign anyone - and certainly don't buy the 'lessons learnt'..

we didn't not get prompted because of the lack of signings last January. We were doing really well at the time, plus went on a 12 or 13 game winning streak lasting until late March was it? - we didn't get promoted because we bottled it.

where would these new players have played even if we did buy them?.. unless your suggesting we should have spent a boat load of money on a player to bring him on in April? - doesn't make sense either financially and also, which decent striker in their right mind would want to be a squad player?

I'm not saying this January don't have a look... because yeah if you find the right buy, at the right price and it will improve our FIRST team, then fair play.

but lets not be having a a load of squad players eating up our wage bill... who, more than likely won't be good enough for the premier league and we'll end up selling anyway

posted 5 days, 21 hours ago

Before the season I had my doubts about the midfield. But Tanaka and Rothewell have exceeded expectations by a mile. I wouldn’t be in a rush to sign anyone unless we are hit with injuries next few weeks

posted 5 days, 21 hours ago

Probably clickbait but Ferguson at Brighton on loan was suggested as a possible January deal as he seems to have dropped down.the pecking order there...Big tall unit strong and has a real presence and he's no slouch either but I did also read Forest are interested so it just depends if Brighton don't want him to go to a rival in the EPL and they're willing to release him to us who I'm sure he'd love it here.

posted 5 days, 20 hours ago

Morning all🌞.

My take on this: barring injuries between now and the end of the Jan window, we’ve got enough for autos and with that scenario, it will be on DF if we don’t go up this season.

posted 5 days, 20 hours ago

I don’t see anyone on what I’ve read so far addressing the dilemma Farke may have going into the transfer market…it can’t be easy does he stick, or twist?
There is a group of players that are playing high intensity football, call it the core of the team: Rodon, Strutijk, Rothwell, Tanaka, James, Firpo, Gnonto, Bogle…haven’t included Ampadu because of injury…these players are mostly playing 2 games in 7 days and it will continue into the season.
The question is can these players continue playing the 2nd part of the season as they have the 1st part?
The high intensity of going for the prize could have serious consequences…injuries and loss of form primarily from that group, 3 or 4 players suffering that high intensity of playing could well be detrimental in the later or middle stages of 2025…it won’t be lack of quality within the group, more a lack of of durability.
Leeds can’t afford to miss out on promotion again…for me a striker is top priority to sign in the window, plus maybe one or two others for cover.
Ideally sign a striker with some dynamism, with a skill set to match, push the boat out if necessary.
I like my strikers to be dynamic and ‘dirty’ ….in my opinion the strikers we’ve had these past few seasons have been too passive…Piroe just doesn’t do it for me, for his size he’s too passive, not enough speed to go past defenders, just can’t see him in the Premier league.
Joseph may or may not be the answer, the jury is still out with him, maybe he still needs a season or two to blossom? I think we need to buy in the transfer market, in fact I think it’s essential.

posted 5 days, 20 hours ago

I hear that Rashford is available...

Seriously though, if we are going to strengthen the 9 or 10 positions, we need to attract a player who is premiership level so they are an upgrade on the personnel we have already and we don't need to re-recruit if we go up.

De Bruyne is out of contract next June - worth a very cheeky approach? He's valued around £40m but wages would be crazy. He is the Pablo replacement we never got.

posted 5 days, 20 hours ago

De Bruyne is out of contract next June - worth a very cheeky approach?

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bit early for the Christmas sherry isn't it 50?

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

NJS... well that's the point there I was trying to make.

yes if we can get the right buy in, with an eye on the future, of course, lets get him in there.. but only for the first team.

the last thing we need is loads of squad players that may well not even get a game.

assuming we get promoted, we'll then need to shed a load more players out that are deemed not good enough for the premier league, they weren't even good enough to play for us in the championship.

I'm not too sure how this all affects FFP though.

with the squad we have already, we should go up.

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
NJS... well that's the point there I was trying to make.

yes if we can get the right buy in, with an eye on the future, of course, lets get him in there.. but only for the first team.

the last thing we need is loads of squad players that may well not even get a game.

assuming we get promoted, we'll then need to shed a load more players out that are deemed not good enough for the premier league, they weren't even good enough to play for us in the championship.

I'm not too sure how this all affects FFP though.

with the squad we have already, we should go up.
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Yes, quite…not signing for the sake of it…push the boat if a quality striker can be prized away, ideally one that is good enough for the Premier.
The club need to guarantee promotion, almost.
A new striker would probably much improve our wins away from home…if we don’t pick up more points away this could hinder our season, yet.

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

comment by NJS Vaguely Noble (U8272)
posted 3 minutes ago

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
NJS... well that's the point there I was trying to make.

yes if we can get the right buy in, with an eye on the future, of course, lets get him in there.. but only for the first team.

the last thing we need is loads of squad players that may well not even get a game.

assuming we get promoted, we'll then need to shed a load more players out that are deemed not good enough for the premier league, they weren't even good enough to play for us in the championship.

I'm not too sure how this all affects FFP though.

with the squad we have already, we should go up.
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Yes, quite…not signing for the sake of it…push the boat if a quality striker can be prized away, ideally one that is good enough for the Premier.
The club need to guarantee promotion, almost.
A new striker would probably much improve our wins away from home…if we don’t pick up more points away this could hinder our season, yet.

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yes NJS, I'd probably agree that.

I think a lot of fans in general, not just on here and Leeds fans just want to see some signings and think thats the holy grail of how to win things..

we should only sign if it an improvement.

of course the difficulties with that is who would come in Jan mid-season...

I know 50 was joking, but I'd totally take Rashford.. great player, always liked him

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NJS Vaguely Noble (U8272)
posted 3 minutes ago

comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 1 minute ago
NJS... well that's the point there I was trying to make.

yes if we can get the right buy in, with an eye on the future, of course, lets get him in there.. but only for the first team.

the last thing we need is loads of squad players that may well not even get a game.

assuming we get promoted, we'll then need to shed a load more players out that are deemed not good enough for the premier league, they weren't even good enough to play for us in the championship.

I'm not too sure how this all affects FFP though.

with the squad we have already, we should go up.
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Yes, quite…not signing for the sake of it…push the boat if a quality striker can be prized away, ideally one that is good enough for the Premier.
The club need to guarantee promotion, almost.
A new striker would probably much improve our wins away from home…if we don’t pick up more points away this could hinder our season, yet.

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yes NJS, I'd probably agree that.

I think a lot of fans in general, not just on here and Leeds fans just want to see some signings and think thats the holy grail of how to win things..

we should only sign if it an improvement.

of course the difficulties with that is who would come in Jan mid-season...

I know 50 was joking, but I'd totally take Rashford.. great player, always liked him
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A top class striker with the very good prospect at the moment anyway of playing Premier football would jump at the chance of playing for Leeds, if other considerations can be met…I am also aware of the financial limitations that the club have in getting that striker, or anyone else!

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

It’s ok saying there must be a player abroad somewhere that fits the bill and is scoring goals but we all know that the Championship is a tough league and it takes time to adapt to the pace and number of games.

We are the top scorers in the league I think and Piroe only has about 7?

We need more from midfield but the likes of Gnonto, James and Aaronson are now chipping in and I’m sure Ramazani will get a run and score a few.

I’m not sure Bamford is fully finished yet either but he’s unreliable fitness wise.

Maybe a Premiership loan who’s prepared to sit in the bench could be the answer. Someone who isn’t getting games but can make a difference when he comes on.

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

You would take Rashford would you?!

I’m recommending you to be sectioned under the section of “he needs to be sectioned, quickly!

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

As we stand were good enough to go up but will be hard pressed to stay up without significant buys. Who's available is the big question.
I would hope the 49'ers are already planning for what we need when we get promoted and will probably wait for the summer.
Will farke even be our manager?
Striker and 10 are our weak points and I don't see us doing anything about it this year.

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

comment by NJS Vaguely Noble (U8272)
posted 1 minute ago
You would take Rashford would you?!

I’m recommending you to be sectioned under the section of “he needs to be sectioned, quickly!
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Rashford is hard to judge, he's spent his entire career at such a dysfunctional club.

posted 5 days, 19 hours ago

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NJS Vaguely Noble (U8272)
posted 1 minute ago
You would take Rashford would you?!

I’m recommending you to be sectioned under the section of “he needs to be sectioned, quickly!
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Rashford is hard to judge, he's spent his entire career at such a dysfunctional club.
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Yes agreed ref Rashford, he’s gone all middle class.
I’m not too keen on middle class strikers, such as Bamford, they protect themselves too much, too intelligent for the physical side of the game.
If Leeds do sign another striker hope they go for a working class player…someone who is ‘a bit thick’…puts his head in the way of the ball…possibly a striker who has done time for petty crimes!
A striker who will head the ball, for Gods sake, not someone who reads books…we used to be loved universally as “dirty Leeds” more than like “book club Leeds”

posted 5 days, 18 hours ago

Top of league, playing well, and people want to sign a big lump upfront, which would mean a complete change of style.

Seriously, watch a different sport, becasue football changed

posted 5 days, 18 hours ago

You’re such a daft so and so….get a sense of humour for Xmas…’kin hell!
A question…are you okay?!

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