Yeah Grealish has been appalling for the last 18 months. I saw some stat recently that his G/A since the start of last season isn’t that different to Antony’s. But City players rarely get the scrutiny other clubs do, largely because no one really cares about City.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Hazard was head and shoulders above Rashford at literally everything else.

I’m not sure the majority of fans dislike Rashford, he’s just not been doing enough on the pitch and has far too often looked disinterested which is never a good look.

Unfortunately for him he has come to represent the post Ferguson era more than anyone else, partly because the club seemed to want to make him the poster boy, partly because he’s so inconsistent and much of his form improved when new managers come in or new contracts were offered and partly because he’s been at the club longer than anyone else during this period (other than de Gea I guess).

For me what’s damning is how quickly the new manager has seemingly decided he doesn’t want Rashford. Like I said, I don’t think most fans hate or dislike Rashford, more that they think it’s time for him to move on, for the good of the club and himself.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 30 seconds ago
Hazard was head and shoulders above Rashford at literally everything else.
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Oh for sure. Even I think Hazard was a better player than Rashford. I never said he wasn't. This was just to point out his record isn't all that bad.

Hazard was a more intelligent footballer no question. 👍

What made me laugh was the comments about Mason Mount prior to game at the weekend which I argued strongly against. He's better than Rashford in the eyes of some people on this thread I'm sure. To me he isn't. He's been an absolute disaster of a signing and even when he's not injured he barely does anything. His goal and assist return per 90 is utterly woeful.

As I said......agendas run wild

Mount has been an awful signing. However in this system if he could stay fit he is arguably a better option than Rashford.

Not saying Mount is a better player but he’s more of a system player.

All irrelevant if he can’t stay fit though.

With Rashford - you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 15 minutes ago
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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See yourself out then mate. We don't talk about our academy lads like this. Certainly not ones who have actually done fairly well for us either though they haven't hit the heights that some maybe wanted.

He won't get a bad reception at all when he returns to play against one day and I hope he does.

Just going to leave this here

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/464080

Rob

Rather than die he could maybe just run a bit more.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 50 seconds ago
Rob

Rather than die he could maybe just run a bit more.
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Exactly what I said in my article linked above

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
Rob

Rather than die he could maybe just run a bit more.
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I believe him and Garnacho are averaging 10.1 and 10.2km per 90 this season. Hardly anything in it.

The perception is Garnacho runs all day and Rashford doesn't even jog.

As I said......when you go into a football game with a pre conceived opinion you choose to see and believe what you want to believe.

I don't think either player works hard enough and could definitely run more for sure. However one of them was regularly getting praised for the same amount of running per game which is hilarious. 😂

As I understand, as well as his poor form on the field, there are some questionable aspects with his off field behaviour (although we do not know what they are). Factor in his poor body language and his popularity, it is of no wonder he is being criticised.

Now, we can deduce from what Amorim has said that the club have tried a variety of methods to get him to back to form on the pitch and back to a more desirable routine off it.

The latest attempt seems to be some low level media briefings to state that he is up for sale, with the hope that Rashford will feel his future at the club is threatened and make a decision.

Rather than opting to try and turn things round at all costs to stay at the club, he seems to be resigned that his time is up and needs a new environment.

An exit would suit all parties. He can perform somewhere else, and we would get a huge wage off the books, pure profit on the books, and funds to bring in an elite attacker.

comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 9 minutes ago
With Rashford - you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.


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Have you been watching Wolf Hall?

A move away makes sense now. I think that's where we do all agree. It's probably time to draw a line under it for sure.

However I'd strongly argue he's been better for us than 80% of the garbage we've signed since Fergie retired and he's got way more abuse than any of them have. That he simply doesn't deserve.

Se85

It’s not just about distance but intensity. I’m not comparing him to Garnacho but it’s quite obvious he doesn’t press or offer the intensity people expect, I’d imagine it’s a huge factor why he seemingly has no future under Amorim. You can’t tell me he doesn’t press just as much as other players.

stripping out penalties, pl only:

rashford - 79 goals, 40 assists, a contribution every 165 minutes
martial - 60 goals, 27 assists, a contribution every 151 minutes

so i'm sure those valiantly defending rashford, and saying how disgusting it is that he gets abuse from his own fans, never threw any abuse at the frenchman (or, indeed, any other united frenchmen).

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
Se85

It’s not just about distance but intensity. I’m not comparing him to Garnacho but it’s quite obvious he doesn’t press or offer the intensity people expect, I’d imagine it’s a huge factor why he seemingly has no future under Amorim. You can’t tell me he doesn’t press just as much as other players.
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As I said I think his work rate and pressing could definitely be better for sure. They were at one stage so don't know why they aren't now.

But he's been nowhere near as bad for us as people are making out. I have actually never known a Utd player get this much abuse from our own fans for a long long time and it's sad to see.

It's almost like we are so used to signing flops that we just forget them and aim it all at Bruno and Rashford. Crazy.

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 3 minutes ago
stripping out penalties, pl only:

rashford - 79 goals, 40 assists, a contribution every 165 minutes
martial - 60 goals, 27 assists, a contribution every 151 minutes

so i'm sure those valiantly defending rashford, and saying how disgusting it is that he gets abuse from his own fans, never threw any abuse at the frenchman (or, indeed, any other united frenchmen).
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I and many others always maintained Martial was a good player. He just didn't seem to want to do it and there are definitely similarities to what we are seeing with Rashford now for sure. Injuries obviously an issue for him too.

We've had far worse players come through the doors than Rashford and Martial. That Brazilian guy for 85m for example. Nobody rates him but he doesn't get anywhere near the abuse Rashford gets. 85m is a hell of lot of money too.

Why is it do you think? Why are some of our moronic fans so quick to constantly blame Bruno and Rashford for literally everything when we've got other players who have been way worse and contributed far less? I don't get it.

If me saying "I'm fed up with his performances", is 'abuse' then I better not sneeze incase someone reports me to the police.

An academy graduate that's played over 400 games for the club and scored over 100 goals is not a terrible player. He's not a terrible person either.

For whatever reason he seems to have lost it at United so hopefully something will happen to suit both parties.

I could well see him go to the US if he needs a clean break. No language barrier and much less pressure. His England hopes probably wouldn't be helped though. Perhaps he'll join McT at Napoli and we get someone from them!

comment by #01 🟥⬜⬛ House ~🎯 ⚡ (U17162)
posted 2 minutes ago
If me saying "I'm fed up with his performances", is 'abuse' then I better not sneeze incase someone reports me to the police.
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That isn't abuse.

Is it.

Rashford definitely seems to be a lightning rod for fans' negative emotions at the moment. The guy who personifies all our disappointment with the club. A while ago it was Bruno. Before that Maguire was subject to hysteria. I think it's best for all parties that he moves on now, but I'll always remember him with warmth. There have been long periods in the post-Fergie years when he brought the most joy of any player at the club. I'll also be eternally proud of him for standing up for hungry children against a heartless government.

comment by #01 🟥⬜⬛ House ~🎯 ⚡ (U17162)
posted 3 minutes ago
If me saying "I'm fed up with his performances", is 'abuse' then I better not sneeze incase someone reports me to the police.
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Have you read his social media pages? The comments he gets are more than. Disgusting at times. They are borderline criminal and coming from United fans a lot of the time.

It's absolutely ridiculous. Never a crime to not rate a player but when players like Bruno get way more stick than players who have cost us a fortune and contributed far less I will never be on board with it.

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)

Why are some of our moronic fans so quick to constantly blame Bruno and Rashford for literally everything when we've got other players who have been way worse and contributed far less? I don't get it.
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you tell me, i mean pogba in his time at united was europa league player of the tournament, made pfa team of the year (first outfielder post saf to do so), and came 15th in the ballon d'or (highest placing of any utd player post-saf).

none of our other midfielders, combined, have managed a single one of those (and no, i don't count fernandes as a midfielder, but even he can't claim all of those).

yet some posters on here - you may know some of them - blamed him for everything wrong at the club bar the leaky roof.

so you tell me why the toxic element of our fanbase just loves to single out individual players, even where there are objectively worse ones at the club.